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Mar 19, 2024 02:14:17   #
Rongnongno wrote:
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else.

The idea of using a display instead of through the lens is reverting to old time when folks were looking from above to focus...

Issues with the display...
- LIGHT!!! If too bright, good luck using the display.
- Eyes issue If one needs glasses all bets are off, there is no way to adjust for that but use the tiny in camera display in the 'view finder'. Go check for accuracy on that since the display is made of tiny pixels vs 'a normal light' (analog)
- Weight unbalance. (Light body, heavy lens)

That is one of the few reasons why I will not upgrade to mirrorless, even if I do appreciate the new sensors.
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else. br b... (show quote)

I can't speak to the experiences others have had with mirrorless bodies but I can comment on Nikon Z bodies with EVFs. I have had a lot of personal experience on several models of their Z mount line.

- I rarely use the back screen to capture anything and I have never had a situation where the light was too bright to use the EVF, But, of course I haven't tried shooting straight at the sun on a bright sunny summer day. For me EVF and OVF usage are very similar but the EVF allows for much more functionality.

- I wear glasses and I do the same thing I did previously with my older DSLRs, I adjust the diopter in the EVF. I am not sure what you mean by the tiny display in the viewfinder. It is very similar experience to looking through my DSLR optical viewfinders but with more options.

- Weight unbalance. That can happen with large lenses on any camera body. Additionally, lenses designed specifically for the Z mount tend to be somewhat shorter and lighter than their Nikon F mount counterparts. I not sure how you hold your cameras with large or heavy lenses mounted, but my left hand is always supporting the lens, regardless of the size or weight, and as a result the size of a body is irrelevant for me. Of course, using mirrorless bodies will be more of an issue for those who like to shoot holding their camera/lens combination one handed

I am not trying to convince you or anyone to use a mirrorless body if that is not their preference. And there are some valid reasons that some people dislike using an EVF. However, the three points you specifically mention in this thread are a bit of a stretch based on my experience for the last two years since moving from my Canon DSLRs to the Nikon Z mount system. I would never consider moving back. But, of course, everyone should use whatever they find most comfortable.
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Mar 10, 2024 15:20:39   #
NateB wrote:
I also use Canon originals (partly because they make it obvious that my cameras are CANON. Just reading the comments, apparently not everyone likes to display the camera brand, but I don’t mind). Never tried anything else, cuz I never considered it necessary. Reminds me of the saying “You can’t fix it if it’s not broken” :) But to each his own. Different people have different likes, so I can’t promise that everyone would like them


The Canon branded straps are short and are primarily intended as neck straps although you could use them on a shoulder if you don't mind carrying your camera above your hip. However, they are useless as a cross body strap.
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Mar 8, 2024 09:38:25   #
It is a different camera so I would be surprised if it is.
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Mar 1, 2024 15:47:42   #
srt101fan wrote:
Back then there was no need or use for something like the "triangle" concept. ISO was a different variable, changeable only by changing film.


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Feb 29, 2024 12:49:07   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Mine are embossed with C A N O N. They're the originals and they're the B E S T.


Perhaps you should have indicated that the C A N O N straps are the B E S T for you. I have have had a number of Canon branded straps that came with bodies over the years and they were certainly not the best straps for me. When I was still a Canon shooter I also had a Canon Professional Services (CPS) strap which was made for Canon by Optech. It was very comfortable.
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Feb 29, 2024 12:35:11   #
JZA B1 wrote:
Does anyone buy third-party straps or you generally use the original that comes with the camera?

I think my only modification was adding a velcro pocket for a remote to a standard strap.

Is there something else people do with straps in terms of adding features/functions that I might be missing out on?


My main preference is Peak Design straps which come in three different models, Slide. Slide Lite, and Leash. They differ in width, thickness and features. The Slide is intended for heavy cameras and lenses and is the most comfortable of the three if you have a very heavy kit. The Slide Lite is the one most will choose. It is narrower then the slide but still very comfortable and will hold the weight of anything you might want to use with it, but it may be a bit less comfortable then the Slide for very heavy kits. The leash is very narrow and is also thinner but still very strong. It is best used with smaller DSLRs and Mirrorless cameras with smaller and lighter lenses mounted. They all use the well known Peak Design anchors at the attachment points. The neoprene Optech straps are also very comfortable and are well priced.
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Feb 29, 2024 09:12:17   #
Artcameraman wrote:
Call trech support.


There is no tech support to call. Users must submit an online support request which can be found using the link below.

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
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Feb 28, 2024 12:34:31   #
cindo51 wrote:
I'm so relieved...then it's not just me! Good money after bad for me : (
Thanks for your feedback, and the fact that you have to wait days for an answer... oh brother!

Actually, both DxO PhotoLab and DxO's version of the Nik Collection are very reliable and have tens of thousands of users.

I cannot say what issues the person you are replying to had and why they were not resolved, nor do we know which software he was using and which version, but I have been a DxO software beta tester for the last five years, and the majority of reported compatibility issues are not directly attributable to problems with DxO's software.

In your situation you seem confused about which DxO software and version you actually have a license for, and which software you actually tried to use as a plugin with Lightroom. DXO PhotoLab 7 Elite is a competitor of Lightroom and is not a Lightroom plugin. The Nik Collection 6 can be used as plugins with Lightroom classic. Until you can be a little clearer with a greater understanding of what you have it is difficult to help you.
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Feb 27, 2024 18:11:18   #
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Feb 27, 2024 13:42:21   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Am exiting this thread. Too much misunderstanding among the most recent commentators and lack of reading before typing. The OP is welcome to send me a pm if I can assist further.


Linda,

It is still not clear to me whether cindo51's most current licenses for the Nik Collection and PhotoLab have both been activated and whether he is attempting to use PhotoLab as a plug-in.
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Feb 27, 2024 13:40:11   #
cindo51 wrote:
OK, I will check again... I guess I'm confused about the difference. I understand the 'collection', but the trial I downloaded for PhotoLab apparently can't be used as a plug-in on LRC?


That is correct. The Nik collection is a set of eight modules intended for use as plugins in other software. PhotoLab is more of a Lightroom competitor and is not intended as a plug-in for Lightroom. The Nik collection can also be run as plugins to PhotoLab.
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Feb 26, 2024 22:59:42   #
bikinkawboy wrote:
Looks like most of Ken’s complaints are user related ergonomics and the inability to use older Nikon lenses. The ergonomic problem is something that can’t really be addressed. If they did, then it would no longer have the retro look.

Years ago an Indian motorcycle manufacturer acquired the rights to build an Enfield motorcycle, a defunct British bike. Other than a few modern ignition and fuel related improvements, the bikes looked really retro and really cool because physically they were copies of the old 50’s bikes. And guess what? Not only did the new bikes look old, they were just as uncomfortable as the old bikes were.

If some fashion designer made retro looking corsets, I suspect they would be just as uncomfortable as the old ones were. When you intentionally make something look uncomfortable, then most likely it’s going to be uncomfortable.
Looks like most of Ken’s complaints are user relat... (show quote)


Retro cameras are not made for everyone. But many of us love the ergonomics. I don't have the Nikon Z f yet, but I do have the very similar Nikon Z fc. It is the most enjoyable digital camera I have every used and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the Z f. I primarily use manual focus prime lenses with my Z fc, especially Voigtlander lenses designed specifically for the Z mount with electronic contacts.
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Feb 26, 2024 19:35:56   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't own one but my these are what I think. Take it with a grain of salt as I don't own one.
1. I have the Df and I found it's much too big compared to a film camera like the FE or FM even the Nikkormat. The Zf is smaller but is still larger than those film cameras.
2. The Zf is a mirrorless and thus it has EVF. You may like it but it's sure what you see in the viewfinder isn't anywhere near what you would see thru the old SLR's of yours. For better or worse up to you.
3. The controls are there at the same old places except the aperture settings. Even the retro lookin 40mm lens doesn't have the aperture ring either.
4. It has a prominent exposure compensation dial while only the FE has the EC but in a place not meant to be used often. On the Zf it means to be used often as it's located conveniently at the right thumb.
5. It has the MASP-Auto setting which the film SLR's you mentioned didn't have.
6. This I guess nobody cares but as Ken Rockwell also said it's made in Thailand instead of Japan like the FE, FM or even the lowly Nikkormat.
I don't own one but my these are what I think. Tak... (show quote)


I believe that all the Nikon Z bodies are made in Thailand now, including the high end bodies like the Z9 and Z8.
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Feb 18, 2024 13:34:11   #
JZA B1 wrote:
I prefer to keep mine looking "natural". As if there wasn't any post-processing or editing done. So even when I do heavy post-processing, I still do it in a way that looks like any alterations are minimal.

But sometimes I see really good pictures that seem almost way too over-processed, yet still look amazing. I could never achieve that. Whenever I try going heavy on the sliders and masks, I end up with some cartoon-looking abomination.

So for me, I go with the natural look because I just don't know how to make good-looking heavily processed images. Not because I'm opposed to editing/processing or want to preserve the "natural look" or anything like that.

Do you think there are a lot of people like that? Those who only do "natural look" because they can't do the heavily-processed one and make it look good?
I prefer to keep mine looking "natural".... (show quote)

I prefer to match my edits to my vision and expectations of the end results. As a result that may mean a few subtle edits or it may mean very extreme ones depending on my goals for the image. I don't limit myself. To get the best from your images during editing means understanding how to get the results you want from your software.

Most of the poorly done and/or severely overcooked images I've seen are from people that are either new to editing, don't have a handle on how to get the best from their software, or have not yet developed an eye to differentiate between well processed and poorly processed or overprocessed images.
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Feb 18, 2024 12:32:36   #
Maxpixel wrote:
I have a quibble about the term “post processing.” Why not just call it “processing?” We say film is processed, not post processed, so why would processing of a RAW image be any different? Now if I processed a jpg image, which is already a processed image, I can see why that could be called post processing. I thought UHH would be the perfect place to resolve this semantic issue!



Post-processing is not an arbitrary term. It has a real meaning. It differentiates the processing of captured data before an image file is created, and the modification of an image file with additional adjustments after it's been created.

Processing is applied in your camera to create an image. Any adjustments made in software on your computer after your image files have been created and downloaded is called post-processing, meaning additional processing applied after the initial creation of the image.

Some current digital cameras also have some additional processing functionality that can be applied in-camera after the creation of an image which is similar to using post-processing software and is also considered post-processing.

Yes, the word processing might also be accurate, but it would also confuse the issue since it would not be clear whether the processing referred to was applied while the original image was being created or as modifications to it after it was created.

Film may seem different since film is processed outside of the camera and modifications such as dodging and burning are made during the processing of film. However, if you scan film images or negatives, save them as Tiff files, and edit them in software, that would be post-processing.
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