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Jul 24, 2014 12:10:22   #
For James Curran and all of the other Kool-Aid drinkers and makers of more and more Kool-Aid.

I know you think the way you added that up is clever but it is bullshit. These days everyone can see through this liberal mind warping jive you guys pull. You used the very last number you could come up with that was after the economic crash and tried to say it was in the dumps during his entire term. If you asked the public today if they would rather have Bush back or keep Obama and Bush would win by a landslide. Even people who didn't like Bush as a president believe he's a decent person and that has been true all along. Not so for Obama. Romney is now favored over Obama. People are sorry they voted for Obama now. Worst president ever in my opinion but according to the polls he's at least the worst since WWII. No way to defend him. The good news is I think Obama has been so bad the public is waking up to the con game that has been pulled on them by the loony left America haters. After Obama no one in their right mind will elect another anti-American socialist for a long time into the future. Obama is a dangerous anti-American idiot and there is no way you can get around that.

I also love how you guys pretend to have a humanitarian interest in the children killed through gun violence but nothing for the 60 million children you've killed through abortion. That is so bizarre that you guys have now carried hypocrisy all the way up to needing to classify it as a mental illness. Pretty soon you won't know whether or not the next person you see is a real person or a Martian. That's how crazy you guys are.

I don't know about climate change myself. I'm neither for it or against it. As it is nuclear proliferation is more of an imminent threat than climate change but we never hear any objections from the loony left about that. They only object to Republicans bringing it up as a real threat. For the left the facts always get in the way.

My brother is an engineer and scientist and the smartest guy I know and he doesn't believe it and I see where NASA is now saying that the science model that the believers use to support their claims is not true either so what can I tell you.
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Jul 24, 2014 10:38:42   #
JamesCurran wrote:
You don't remember very well. For both Bushes, The economy got generally worse throughout their terms.

Reagan had a new recession start a year after he took office. Whatever effect happened right after his inaugural, it was very short lived.

The president has no power to cut taxes without Congress.

And the hype about the participation rate ("60 million out of work" ) is just nonsense. -- A low participation rate shows that the economy is GOOD -- but I don't have time to explain that again right now...
You don't remember very well. For both Bushes, Th... (show quote)


This is not true. GW, despite having to conduct an expensive war presided over a rather successful economy for all but the last three months of his two term presidency. That's about 96.5% of his presidency. Unemployment was less than it had been during the Clinton years. Obama on the other hand has had almost seven years to do anything positive with our economy and he's done nothing but make it worse. I've said over and over and over the biggest difference between Obama and Bush is that Bush actually liked America while Obama wants to see it fundamentally destroyed. He's currently smuggling in illegal aliens to accomplish just that. Obama is the idiot who referred to the Marine Corps as the Marine "Corpse" and said there were 57 states. He's humiliated us more than any other politician who ever lived. If you voted for him you should be ashamed at how gullible you were to believe that the most inexperienced and questionable president ever would do anything to help Americans.
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Jul 24, 2014 00:49:43   #
The data may have been but the categories and there descriptions are not. I can almost guarantee that.
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Jul 24, 2014 00:45:54   #
In all fairness I think it's only right to have at least one channel that is not totally in the tank with the Democrats. You'd think having the Republicans outnumbered in the media 20 to 1 might be enough for you guys.

However, what you need to do is watch it. Watch it often and you will see what is going on. You will quit being to blind to what is happening I this world. You won't have to have the powers that be tell you what to think. You can decide that for yourself. That's the reason why FOX News is the most trusted name in news. By actual survey they beat all of the networks combined when it comes to being trusted.
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Jul 24, 2014 00:31:11   #
For those of you who are so blinded by your loony left thinking (if you can actually call all that noise between your ears thinking) all you need to know about the 700 billion dollar stimulus program is that it didn't do anything stimulative for the American people or our economy. Six years later we are in still in the same shit we were when Obama arrived.
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Jul 24, 2014 00:19:02   #
This is just a cleverly reworded (actually it's moronic) accounting of what I just told you.

I get such a kick out of you anti Fox News freaks. You can tell that none of you ever watch it because the things you say are so wrong and so dumb. Almost every show has liberals on it who get lots of time to prove their point of view. O'Reilly even gives all of his guests the last word on each subject. How fair and balanced can you get? I think it's the whole concept of fairness and balance that you guys object to. You want to control what everybody thinks and you hate to see a truly free press. It makes you nuts!




It wet for political
wlgoode wrote:
http://stevensonfinancialmarketing.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/where-did-the-stimulus-money-go/

When your channel is permanently tuned to a noise network created by the Nixon Administration and headed by a fat Nixon staffer that was planned to tell the conservative side of things do you think you are hearing a Fair and Balanced view? Your are hearing Faux News. Only one side is possible to hear and there are 2 sides to every story!
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Jul 23, 2014 23:22:18   #
They already gave that moron Obama 700 billion dollars in stimulus to create all of those "shovel ready jobs" he later made jokes about. He did nothing with that money but bail out the Democratic States who were in debt up to their ears. Funny the Republican states weren't. Why did he do that? So those governors would get re-elected and the Democrats could maintain their power. No everyday Americans, white or black, really ever saw any benefit from it so why would Boehner want to give that criminal moron more money to waste. Obama doesn't give a damn about America or Americans. Obama and his cronies are the biggest criminals America has ever had. He's driving us into bankruptcy while smuggling millions of illegal aliens into our country hoping they will vote for the Democrats in return for handouts. Once that happens they will have total and complete control of the United States to do with as they please. They will control everything. All the money and all of the power. We will all be working for the Party.
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Jul 23, 2014 23:08:35   #
Funny, you didn't complain about the asinine way the Democrats treated George Bush and Bush has ton more class and honor than Obama. Bush actually likes Americans and America.
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Jul 23, 2014 20:26:02   #
I won't argue this articles conclusions other than to say by all accounts the Carter years were the worst and if you lived through them you would know what I am tlaking about. Also, like the Obama reign they got progressively worse as the years went by. By the end of his presidency Americans were being told that it was "sunset in America". If you are over 50 you will remember that statement being thrown around by the so called experts and you will remember being told by the same experts that America's best days were behind her. That we would have to face the fact that we would no longer be the world super power we had been in the past. Reagan destroyed that concept and made incredible strides in rebuilding America in a matter of months.
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Jul 23, 2014 19:17:43   #
JamesCurran wrote:
they hire people THEY NEED so they can make more money. If the workers aren't needed, the rich people are just throwing money away. The NEED has to come first. Which is why Demand-side is the only possible way to run an economy.


There is always a NEED. People want stuff faster, better, safer, cheaper, more modern, more stylish, lighter, smaller, fancier and on and on and on.

The internet is one of the best examples ever. No one saw that coming so there was no NEED for it until it was presented to the public and once they saw it they wanted it in a big way. Nothing in life is static. Static begins at death.

Read the article one Reaganomics versus Obamanomics. It's all explained in great detail there.

Other than that arguing politics on the internet is not something I do generally and as a result this my be my last post on the subject.
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Jul 23, 2014 18:33:15   #
If you want to read an intelligent, detailed accounting of by experts (Forbes) rather than the loony bin stuff that is getting posted here read the following article which compares Reaganomics with Obamanomics. It also gives a correct accounting of the economy preceeding Reagan's election. Unfortunately it was written in 2011 so it doesn't include the incredible devastation that Obamanomics has had on our economy and our country and its citizens since that time.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2011/05/05/reaganomics-vs-obamanomics-facts-and-figures/
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Jul 23, 2014 18:16:22   #
JamesCurran wrote:
Wrong on pretty much everything there.

- The prosperity of the Clinton administration was well underway long before the internet boom. He was the only president since Johnson to make it through his term recession-free.

- No one doubted the economy would continue to improve under Reagan, as the recession of 1980 had ended 6 months before. The economy was never in a "tailspin" under Carter -- The Dow actually did quite well -- The OPEC oil embargo threw the economy into a spell for a bit, but it had recovered.

- You completely forgot about the recession of 1981-82.

- What the economics experts really WERE saying was the Reagan economic plan during the high-flying mid 80s was "a textbook case on how to CAUSE a recession" -- which was exactly what it did do -- You'll recall the day in 1987 when the Dow lost 25% in one day -- erasing nearly all the gains under Reagan.

-The equivalent of the "internet boom" that happened during Reagan's time was the women's movement --- at the start of his term, most women were housewives; by the end, most were working outside the home. This led to essentially a "fire sale" on workers, and labor costs (salaries) dropped -- hence the boom. That's also why in the 70's family could get by on one income, but by the 90's, most needed two.

-There is no rational way to argue the tickle-down WILL work. It requires rich people hiring workers they have no business need for, out of charity. It just won't happen. (You also show how little you understand about economics -- your "rational" explaination of Supply-side economics, is actually describing Demand-side economics -- except you are limiting it to a tiny percentage of the population. Use the same explaination, but with everyone in the country buying things, and you get a much better economy)
Wrong on pretty much everything there. br br - Th... (show quote)


Most of this response is nuts. I don't know where you guys get this stuff. The internet stock boom the drove the Clinton era economy was loaded with companies that soon after went bankrupt. Several others were nothing but gigantic Ponzi schemes. Prior to that it was so important to the Clinton era success crazy ass Al Gore tried to take credit for inventing the internet. I remember watching him say that right on television in real time and being from Tennessee we were were all humiliated by how dumb he looked. That's why we didn't vote for him.

Your last statement is the most ludicrous of all. Rich people don't hire people because they feel sorry for them they hire people so they can make more money. It's a truly symbiotic relationship. Simple as that.

The thing with the sickness over "the rich people" is that it is always stated by the loony left like that is some sort of fixed group. It is not. Lots of people today who have very little will be the rich people of tomorrow and some of the rich today will be gone. And, if you have a tax system that encourages investment guess what happens? The idea that America is the Land of Opportunity is what has made us such a dynamic force in the world. The trouble with that for the loony left is they truly want to see America fail.
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Jul 22, 2014 23:40:22   #
Reagan was likeable but his policies screwed us blue.[/quote]

This part is a joke right. The last time we were truly successful without the internet stock boom which was an empty dream was when Reagun was president. Prior to his election all of the "experts" said he couldn't pull our economy out of the tailspin it had been in for years under Carter. Reagan turned it around in 6 months. I didn't even vote for him but in six months I, most other people, thought he was the greatest president in my lifetime. It's still that way. There is actually no rational way to argue that the Trickle Down concept won't work. Rich people buy things and invest in things and there is no way to stop that outside of Draconian tax laws.
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Jul 22, 2014 23:28:11   #
Where do you get this stuff?

wlgoode wrote:
I wonder why history shows our free enterprise economy does better under a Democratic POTUS. Republican do much better at tanking a good free enterprise economy. Not my opinion, look at history.

I wonder why radical liberals founded our free enterprise nation and the conservative Tories liked it just fine under a dictatorial King? Again, look at history.

BTW, I have never been a Democrat and I voted for Reagan and Bush 41.
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Jul 22, 2014 23:24:29   #
I saw another poll done years ago by UCLA that favored Christians over non=Christians and atheists in every important category. Such as intelligence, mental illness, criminal convictions, divorce rate and on and on and on. That's UCLA too. Hardly the center of conservative thought. On the other hand Psychology Today is itself and it's readership entirely liberal.
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