Elaine2025 wrote:
I never mentioned Hannity and Limbaugh. They are Pundits and more often than not, they get it right while the fake lying media is still standing there trying to wipe the egg off their faces.

The Mueller report had no charges. A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR DOES NOT EXONERATE, THAT TERM HAS NO LEGAL MEANING. THERE IS A CRIME OR THERE ISN'T. IN THIS CASE THERE ISN'T. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

The scope of the report was not to charge, that is a possible conclusion after a congressional inquiry, as I understand the limits of Mueller's task.

I don't listen to these commentators, and I'm not a fan-boy of any of the parties involved in this debacle and search for many different opinions. I try to ignore the name-calling and labeling and follow the actions of the people leading us in one direction or another. Words and promises are often misleading, a sleight-of-hand, but they do have an effect, for better or worse. I am not optimistic about the direction this society is going right now and hope our experiment, a country based on diverse ideas and common ideals, not ethnicity, or tribalism, or the tyranny of profits for the few at others expense can survive intact.

“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”

― Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Is the Mueller Report the crap, or the training and professional credentials of Hannity and Limbaugh the crap?
And I'm hardly a Democrat, but I lived in NYC for decades, and have been both amused and horrified by the Trump family ideals and behavior for as long...

How much is that boat and the four outboards worth? Someone isn't hurtin'.

The likes of Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are entertainers, columnists at best, funded to the tune of millions by dark money, they are not journalists!

Please, the Mueller Report did not find him innocent, on the contrary, it found that there are 10 points that could not be declared so, but the limits of the jurisdiction, the authority of the report's team have to leave those points to Congress to investigate, and it initiated IIRC 14 other investigations for the (NY) Southern District to pursue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_Report
Volume I of the report concludes that the investigation did not find sufficient evidence that the campaign "coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities" and did not pursue charges for others beyond Manafort and Gates under statutes governing conspiracy or foreign agents.[4][5] Investigators ultimately had an incomplete picture of what happened due to communications that were encrypted, deleted or unsaved, as well as testimony that was false, incomplete or declined.[6][7][8] However, the report stated that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law".[9][10][11] It lists two methods by which Russia attempted to influence the election. Firstly, a social media campaign by the Internet Research Agency (IRA) which supported the Trump presidential campaign, attacked the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, and aimed to “provoke and amplify political and social discord".[12][13][14] Secondly, Russian military intelligence agency GRU conducted computer hacking and strategically released damaging material stolen from the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations.[15][16][17] The campaign is further stated to have "welcomed" this ongoing interference as they “expected [to] benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts”.[18][19][20] It also identifies links between Trump campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government,[21] about which several persons connected to the campaign made false statements and obstructed investigations.[4] During the investigation, the special counsel recommended the indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his former deputy Rick Gates, and they were found guilty of criminal offenses stemming from their prior lobbying work for the Ukrainian Party of Regions. Mueller later stated that his investigation's conclusion on Russian interference "deserves the attention of every American".[22]

Volume II of the report addresses obstruction of justice. The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgment that Trump committed a crime.[23][24][25] The special counsel refrained from making a judgment about whether to criminally charge Trump because investigators abided by an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president cannot stand trial,[26][27][28] and feared that charges would affect Trump's governing and possibly preempt his impeachment.[24][27][29] Consistent with standing DOJ policy,[30] investigators felt it would be unfair to accuse Trump of a crime without charges and without a trial in which he could clear his name.[26][27][31] As such, the investigation "does not conclude that the President committed a crime"; however, "it also does not exonerate him",[13][32] as investigators were not confident that Trump was innocent after examining his intent and actions.[33][34][35][36]

Please continue, which comments?

They said the same thing decades ago about unemployment insurance, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, breaking up the oil and gas monopolies...ad nauseum.

Excuse me Mr. Designdweeb, exactly how does the squad want to make the U.S. a better place?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_New_Deal
Higher taxes?
Tax above the $10 million income threshold, and 60 of the largest international corporations that pay none, it's corporate welfare! What is the actual cost, the hidden costs of deferred health care, inadequate roads, an outdated power grid, a poisonous outdated energy policy controlled by 'monopolies,' continued use of disposable and unrecyclable products?
Trading freedom for Socialism and or Communism? Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid have hardly been a risk to capitalism, most industrialized countries also offer other social benefits far exceeding ours, maternity leave, daycare, preschool, free higher public education, fair wages for teachers, high-speed internet through the rural areas and controls over medical and pharmaceutical prices, as well.
Taking away cars and trucks and air planes (sic)? How about updating crumbling roads and bridges, subways and other infrastructure? Rebuilding mass transit rail lines for commuters are a good start. Disneyland has used monorails for how many decades? Bike-friendly urban and suburban roads to park and ride lots are a healthy start. I can't tell you how many times I've had to rebuild the front end of the car because of bad roads, in town, and on the interstates.
Killing all the cows?
A joke about methane, we could collect it and burn it, less dangerous than fracking, or windmills. The point was about the lack of honest, fact-based nutritional education. Don't get me started on school lunches and schoolchildren eating nasty, unhealthy processed food, and others going hungry. The inefficiencies and pollution of land due to our reliance on meat is a horrible problem. Did you ever talk to an industrial hygienist about the pig and poultry farms? Limiting meat meals to a few times a week, avoiding processed meats will extend your life.
Increasing your health care co-pay to thousands of dollars?
Universal health care can be designed to avoid that. How do they do it in other countries? There are solutions, proven for decades.
Using your money to send someone else's kid to college?
When I was college age, CUNY and the Cal State colleges were free. Many State U's were a few thousand a year. A LOT of Nobel prize -winners graduated from City University, many immigrants among them. Educating people is an investment in a resource, not an expense.
Using your money to give free health insurance to eleven million illegal immigrants?
The Green New Deal proposes a federal jobs program. There are a lot of projects for skilled or semi-skilled workers, and their work could include health care as a benefit.
The AOC platform Access to free preventative care is MUCH cheaper in the long and shortrun than the often inevitable ER visit that comes later. I recall a study commissioned by California decades ago, somewhere in the 90's, IIRC.
Turning the USA into another Venezuela? You mean like Norway?
Open borders for everyone?
Not everyone, but I believe most of these people are honestly in need. We have to speed up and add more resources to the naturalization process, decades-long waits are ridiculous. These people are fleeing from famine after global warming has made their sustenance farms' crops fail, and drug-gang violence and near-slavery. What would make you want to walk a thousand miles to get out of your homeland? In a previous generation, most of my family was turned away from immigration to the USA, they died in WW2, exterminated.
Voting rights for anyone that steps onto American soil? Who says that? I don't agree with that. You have to be a citizen to vote, and you have to have an accessible polling place, and gerrymandering has to stop!
Turning you into a vegan? I don't see any laws proposed like that. It's a personal health choice.
Providing a safe haven for known terrorists? I think the terrorists fly in, they hardly walk,
Corrupting the value of American citizenship? The corruption is leterally and figuratively in your mind.
And yes, Mr. Trump might be privileged and have a lot of money.Is that a bad thing? We don't know how much money he has and from where it originates. His dad, a corrupt businessman and a draft dodger, gave him millions, and Trump defaulted on loans six times. Deutche Bank, under investigation for Russian mob money -laundering, is the only one that will deal with him.
Has a poor man ever signed your pay check? People of modest means pay me for my services, and the newspaper I also work for was started by an upper-middle-class family, to provide hyper-local honest news.
Has a poor man ever paid your health insurance? I can't afford to get sick. I'm not against corporations, I'm against greed. Look at the big picture, we are wage slaves!
Has a poor man ever built a library or park or skating rink in your town? OUR TAX DOLLARS pay for MUNICIPAL SERVICES!
Has a poor man ever offered your child a scholarship to college?
The state paid for my education, and I took out loans, and I went to a State U until I got a scholarship to a private school.
Has a poor man ever given you twenty five thousand dollars to save your child's life?
I've paid enough to the health care providers to insure that THEIR children go to the best private schools and colleges money can buy.
Has a poor man ever created hundreds of jobs in your neighborhood?
Jobs that pay $7-10/hour? Wages have stagnated for 40 years, if they kept up with inflation and increased productivity the minimum wage would be somewhere over $25/hour. The stockholders, big corporation business owners and CEOs get the astronomical benefits. The wage differentials from top to bottom are obscene, but that's another place we need some regulations to control the wildly escalating inequalities.
Donald Trump might be rich but he has also done every one of the things I just mentioned.[/quote]
What are your sources?

I'll be happy to respond when I return from my photo club meeting tonight...

Three of the four are native-born, one arrived as a child fleeing from a much more worse situation. They want to make the U. S. a better place, not drag it down to the lowest common denominator of the world's most troubled regions.
He is a product of a privileged upbringing, isolated from reality, and playing the media and uninformed for the short-term benefit of corporations and the 1%.

The difference between humming a tune and composing a song? That said, I've won Press Association awards with my iPhone images, but rarely, compared to my Nikons.

Bribery!

Yup!

Thanks for the pictures. Sad that they had to take it down. I believe something rather mundane will replace it.

Sad that they had to take it down. I believe something rather mundane will replace it.