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Apr 2, 2018 16:03:28   #
Fotoartist wrote:
An article in "Picture Correct", the Author: Marianne Stenger, echoes my thoughts about this topic that I have noticed. Newbies seem to be using thinking from film days and are not up on new camera technology. I don't know where they're getting their information but it's usually outdated.

The mistakes are:
1. USING A SHUTTER SPEED THAT’S TOO SLOW
2. CHOOSING THE WRONG FOCUS POINT
3. NOT SHOOTING IN HIGH ISO
4. ALWAYS SHOOTING AT WIDE APERTURES
5. USING IMAGE STABILIZATION WHILE USING A TRIPOD
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I have difficulties understanding why newbies would be using thinking from film days. Most of them have probably never seen a film or handled one, only heard of it as an old and outdated way of capturing pictures.
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Apr 2, 2018 12:21:25   #
InfiniteISO wrote:
I am a hobbyist musician, and like the hobby of photography there are musicians that are making wonderful music on inferior equipment and other people that get caught up in acquiring the best instruments money can buy. Many of the latter don't practice enough to ever get competent. At the same time, professional musicians need those great instruments, often more for reliability and repeatability than anything else.

I think the idea of video-based photographic instruction that is not pushing new and expensive hardware is a great concept. Video is quickly replacing written instruction, although that in itself is a bit sad. Many people with great gear don't even know the basics. How many times have you seen folks out on vacation lining up a group shot that you know is doomed to be mediocre at best because of lighting and orientation? Also, many amateur photographers, myself included, tend to shoot too many poorly composed images instead of fewer well thought out images. With a 24MP sensor, I don't really worry about framing as much as I did with a 12MP, and there was a similar regression when I went from 6 to 12. With greater real estate, I can throw more away. And back to sheer numbers, if I had to develop and print all the pics that I took last year, I would be flat broke. The ability to shoot cheaply has made many of us sloppy. I think I may be evolving into a better photo manipulator than a photographer.

I am really starting to pay attention to all the free instruction that's out there, including threads on this forum. I think it's going to make me a better photographer.
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I agree with you. Youtube is great tool for learning stuff, like in photography. But when the videos are mostly about something else it becomes a waste of time for the audience. Time is limited, I for example do not like videos replacing text on news sites because I get the news much faster by reading them than watching a video. For teaching it is different because it is so easy to show in the video what you are talking about and explain it with pics and show how you make them. And those Youtubers that can do that in short videos are my favorites.
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Apr 2, 2018 12:00:44   #
Before I started this topic I did have very disappointing experience with some Youtubers. I like to turn on my TV when I wake up in the morning and check some youtube videos about photography and other things I am interested in because I like to see what others are doing. Sometimes it is just interesting or fun and sometimes I also learn from it. I usually do this for half an hour or one hour before I get dressed and start my work. Lately I have been very disappointed. I have tried to watch Tony Northrup and it is mostly advertising for some website and long dialogs with his wife about something rather useless stuff or high end gear he is promoting. And sometimes his videos are followed by another video a few days later where he has to explain or make arguments for something he has said in the first video. All in all this is just a long and boring waste of time, usually.

But what really made me mad about those Youtubers was Fro knows photo. I know he is promoting Sony and that is ok with me. He is also selling his T shirts and showing off his fancy Youtube studio. Occasionally he has even made a useful video. But he got me tempted to watch a video some 2 weeks ago. It had the title, "Ken Rockwell is my new best friend" or someting like that. So I decided to watch this video as I have been to Rockwells website a few times and find it very interesting. And the video indicated that it would have something to do with Ken Rockwell. I was hoping that part of the video would be an interview with Ken. But, no, this was just 1 hour or so of nonsense about nothing and no Ken Rockwell there. That really pissed me off.

To me those 2 guys are the most useless popular photography Youtubers.

One more I had in mind is The angry photographer. He is bold and he is gear oriented and he is very cocky but not as angry as his channel indicates and I know many people dislike him. So it is ok to say he is strange. But I actually like his videos because he knows pretty well what he is talking about even when he does it in a manner that make people dislike him ;)

Others I sometimes see are Matt Granger and Jason Lanier. They are sometimes very good and sometimes just promoting gear.
And then there are guys like Steve Perry that are addressing more specific stuff like how to get the most out of Nikon autofocus system etc. That is very good. I also like to look at videos about old film cameras and lenses and repair of this stuff but that is another matter.

But when I found Mike Browne I figured he was probably one of the best on Youtube because he is giving very good lessons in short videos about stuff all beginners and many others will benefit from if they watch the videos.
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Apr 2, 2018 11:02:50   #
This topic was a special April fools day topic. Keep that in mind ;)
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Apr 2, 2018 07:57:54   #
jerryc41 wrote:
I thought you had saved the link on purpose. Putting it in the first post will get the thread moved to Links.

I'll have to watch some of his videos, although he should comb his hair.

He resembles Michael Caine, but he doesn't sound like him.


This guy not only has a lot of simple and useful info in his videos but he is excellent in transfering that info to the viewers. I really like this guy.
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Apr 1, 2018 13:42:57   #
Joe Blow wrote:
You aren't wrong in your assessment, but you are overlooking the human aspect. For an analogy, an old beater will get me to work every day just as well as a new car will. But I do like having a car with AC that works and windows that go up and down. There is a lot more comparisons of new cars and ads selling me a new car than there are on being a better driver.

A Canon 5D MIV with an EF 70-200 f2.8 won't make you a better photographer than a Rebel T3 with a 70-300 f4.0-5.6, but it is similar to having that car with air conditioning.
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Maybe that is what is missing. A drivers license for camera users, compatible to a drivers license for car drivers. Before you are allowed to drive you have to learn a bit and then prove your skills. It is not less complicated to learn how to use a modern camera than it is to learn to drive a car.
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Apr 1, 2018 10:46:01   #
Steve Perry wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I agree 100000% with what you say. My point is simply that people always seem to try to improve with gear rather than technique and YT channels have to play to that. I honestly think that so many photographers would be so much better off if they focused on technique and not worried so much about gear and fiddling with every little setting. Learning how to effectively leverage the fundamentals like composition, perspective, exposure, focus, shutter speed, and F/stop go so much further than getting the newest gadget when it comes to putting keepers on the cards, but sadly that's not what the market seems to want.

This sort of ends up being a hot button for me simply because I don't particularly enjoy doing camera / gear reviews and am MUCH happier with doing technique topics. However, looking at a couple recent videos, I have one on the new 180-400 that's just over a week old at 32K views Vs. a technique video on birds that's nearly 3 months old with 39K views - it'll easily get passed by the new video before it gets to the same age. My Nikon Tips 2 video, which I kind of feel is more gear orientated than technique is about a month old with 76K views.

Again, I agree with you, but I also wanted to show why gear seems to get so much more attention.
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I understand your arguments perfectly. But I am not even planing to watch the Nikon 180-400 lens video because the price of the lens alone tells me I am never ever going to buy it And I am sure less than 1% of the people watching that video vill buy the lens no matter how good it is. On the other hand, probably more than 90% of them would benefit from watching some of your videos about technique. And this is kind of the reason for this topic. People who do not know how to improve their photography are making the wrong choices in their search for better results. And how can we stop them doing that? Maybe it is not possible.
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Apr 1, 2018 10:14:30   #
Steve Perry wrote:
As many of you know, I have a YouTube photo channel as well and I can tell you why you see so many gear vids.

The thing is, I don't get a single dime from Nikon or anyone else - the exchange of money only goes one way, from my wallet to their bank account. However, I do the gear reviews because that's what people want. Those video ALWAYS get more views than the technique ones - and I do a bit of both. And even when I do technique videos, I seldom get questions or followup on the techniques described, but "what lens was that" or what tripod was that" type of questions.

The truth is, people will give lip service to how much more important technique is than gear, but when the rubber meets the road, most of them will hit the gear videos before the technique ones. IMO, that's a pity too. Not only do I firmly believe that technique is 80%+ of a good image, but I prefer to make those kinds of videos as well. However, the constant screams for reviews and gear questions make it nearly mandatory that I do gear videos as well. Interestingly, and to further prove my point, I get next to zero requests for specific technique videos.
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Hi Steve.

I must apologize for not mentioning you in this topic in the beginning because you have actually done many great videos about how to use a camera and specific camera settings. I have enjoyed many of your videos because they are truly helpful.

But for the beginners or those who have not figured out how to get good results with their gear it is important to help them understand how to improve. They usually seem to think that the way forward is different gear and there fore swallow everything about new gear. Of course this is good for the gear manufacturers and those who are sponsered. Actually this gear focused info stream is good for all but the people not knowing how to take good pictures. And I do not want to spoil gear sales or anything. I would think if people really learn how to use their gear they will continue to buy new gear but do it in a different manner, knowing what they are doing and what new gear would fit their needs. As the questions here usually are they are telling me that people often have no clue about what they are doing, just hoping a new gear that they have no idea about how to use will make them a better photographer.
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Apr 1, 2018 09:05:25   #
Bud Black wrote:
What is the best solvent to use when cleaning your camera lens?


Your breath and a microfiber cloth.
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Apr 1, 2018 08:53:19   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I wonder who owns the Contax brand name now. I know that Kyocera had the brand for many years but I don't know now.


I do not know about the ownership of the brand. But do you think this design is a better April fools day project than the Sony A7F?
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Apr 1, 2018 08:37:28   #
BebuLamar wrote:
Not a good April fool because the camera is impossible to make. A good April fool is something that is possible but not going to happen.


There is actually another camera that is more interesting, the new Contax rangefinder. That is some serious design and will be a great camera I think.
http://photorumors.com/2018/04/01/breaking-contax-digital-rangefinder-camera-to-be-announced-soon-pictures-specifications-and-more/
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Apr 1, 2018 08:12:53   #
Here is a preview video of this Sony A7F camera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP0MWgfr5yw
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Apr 1, 2018 08:10:29   #
BebuLamar wrote:
April 1st.


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Apr 1, 2018 08:07:40   #
This new Huawei is topping DXO list by a huge margin.


http://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p20-pro-camera-review-innovative-technologies-outstanding-results/
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Apr 1, 2018 07:57:59   #
Mac wrote:
What does somebodies hair have to do with anything?


I am not sure, but wonder if they use it to distract people watching those videos they make.
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