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May 5, 2024 14:30:29   #
Sinewsworn wrote:
Provocative language from afar.
Not every shutter I’ve tripped has been “in the wild.” Never had an issue at concerts-very loud.

Has your life devolved to the point that making snide comments makes you feel better?


I didn't suggest that all your pics are of wild life or at concerts - but it seems I hit a few nerves? Regardless - mirrors are old hat.
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May 5, 2024 13:54:50   #
wdross wrote:
"It can be done but is relatively difficult with such a camera."

I found out the hard way that as cameras and lenses changed and got better, the only way to change the body or change the lens on an "all-in-one" is to sell the camera and buy a new one. Also, the sensor on the Sony RX-10iv is even smaller and more depth of field than a 4/3rds sensor. This also affects ISO and diffusion. Luckily, software is very good these days for both issues. But there is a strong chance imaging will require post processing especially with the astrophotography. And even as good as the Sony RX-10iv is for telephoto, individual lenses for a system will tend to be better both in focusing and imaging quality.

"I would look at adding proper lenses to the system you have."

User ID is correct. How much do you want to do and how much better do you want to do it. You may be able to buy, and even further upgrade, bodies and lenses and have more than you will with the Sony RX-10iv. Do not get me wrong. The Sony RX-10iv is a good camera with pros - and cons.

"If you do not have a proper system yet, I would look at a used Olympus/OM or Panasonic body coupled with a Olympus/OM, Panasonic, or one of the third party 4/3rds wide angle and telephoto lenses (5mm to 10mm at the widest end for astrophotography and 150mm to 600mm for telephoto)."

4/3rds has a bigger sensor with what could be less downsides than the Sony RX-10iv. Again, if you don't have a good system camera yet, I suggested a system that could meet your needs very well and still be cheaper (lighter and smaller) that full frame or APS-C. But if you already have a system, really consider UserID's suggestion.
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In terms of a package deal at a bargain price, the RX10iv is hard to beat. I have the RX10ii (24-200) which suits my photography. Over 13 years I have moved from Panny to Leica and now Sony - I think I have progressed, and am satisfied with the RX series.
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May 5, 2024 09:51:22   #
dennis2146 wrote:
In my Commercial Photography series of photos my next selection is a Ruger Bisley Stainless revolver with dual cylinders, one in .45 Colt and the other in 45 ACP. I included two photos showing the two different cylinders and ammunition for each trying for a different expression of displaying the different caliber cartridges, lines up straight in one version and one in a star pattern for another example.

Dennis


Nice shots - After I finish this week ends travel I will photograph my SA10 Automatic gas pistol for your interest.
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May 5, 2024 09:40:59   #
If you need a long range zoom the Sony RX10iv is great. It is not a P&S - it is a digital fixed single lens enthusiast camera, with all the attributes you could expect.
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May 5, 2024 09:25:20   #
Sinewsworn wrote:
We have drifted quite a bit from the original post concerning the nostalgia felt by some of us when we see/hear/feel older cameras, particularly DSLRs.


I guess you must miss the clunk cllck every trip, especially when it scares away the wild life you wished to photograph, or annoys the other viewers at a concert, or otherwise draws attention.
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May 4, 2024 11:37:21   #
MrBob wrote:
Your last 2 sentences say it all... NO ONE takes much notice of someone holding up a cellphone. Hold up your big mirrorless or DSLR and it's another story. With the masses craving instant selfie recognition and communication, I believe you are 100% right as stating that the phonecam size/format may be the perfect street camera.


I believe that the selfie culture is simply a modern version of the "I was here" brigade. At least there is now less mindless defiling of our environment.
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May 3, 2024 09:45:27   #
cmc4214 wrote:
Judging by this thread, photographers don't count, only the camera.


I suggest that you could do with lessons in comprehension
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May 3, 2024 06:45:13   #
Snappers - enjoy your phone pics and leave photography to the cameras.
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May 2, 2024 16:58:15   #
tdozier3 wrote:
Just didn't like how it felt in my hands. It felt like a childs toy.


So you're referring to just one camera - I guess it was a Nikon.
Mirrorless belongs to the modern world of Sony, Fuji, and Panasonic. In fact interchangeable lenses will also soon be gone. Fixed zooms from Leica, Zeiss and ilk will become the new world photographic order. Then cameras will kick smart phones into touch.
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May 2, 2024 15:25:43   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Let your MILCs, not your DSLRs, create your future success.


What about the photographer - or don't they count anymore? - must be down to AI addled brains!
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May 2, 2024 11:59:22   #
Alafoto wrote:
I don't think anyone who has ever handled a Leica would dispute their quality, except maybe the collaboration with Minolta. Financially, a bit beyond my aspirations. Made a decent living with Mamiya, Nikon, and later, Canon. All tools of the trade. Never owned a camera to adore.


Leica have an even closer collaboration with Panasonic Lumix - with Lenses and cameras.
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May 2, 2024 08:11:36   #
Bill_de wrote:
Until something better comes along!

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Yes - but that is not "words of wisdom" - it's been happening since the dawn of time.
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May 2, 2024 06:31:21   #
Nicely done,
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May 2, 2024 03:37:26   #
tdozier3 wrote:
I love my D500 and D7500. I checked out a couple mirrorless at a Best Buy and I hated it.


What is there to hate?
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May 1, 2024 14:53:34   #
nealbralley wrote:
DSLRs a superb system of systems with which to photograph images. I know for certain that DSLRs take photographs every bit as good as any mirrorless camera. I don’t give a hoot what others say! If you know what you are doing, the DSLRs will deliver the shots, and they will do so for less! No rolling shutter, better low-light visibility through the viewfinder. While mirrorless cameras may give you ”what you see is what you get,” in the view finder or the LCD, as I said before, if you know what you are doing, mirrorless isn’t any better!

There is such a thing as “good enough!” DSLRs are more than “good enough!” Don’t fall for the hype!
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Lack of mirror slap and shutter vibration are not hype, and silence is golden.
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