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Feb 17, 2014 10:46:16   #
nope, it is the paper used for digital images.
really easy for me to discern. after all, i have to know what i'm getting.
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Feb 17, 2014 10:44:41   #
ah, equipment. i had always hoped there would be one lens and one camera which would do it all. and there isn't.
looking at what i currently have.
2 rangefinders, leica and nikon
3 slrs, nikon leicaflex, minolta
3 medium format cameras, bronica, hasselblad, mamiya
1 medium format technical camera, linhof
1 5x4 technica camera, linhof
3 light meters, gossen, pentax
5 tripods
and god only knows how many lenses.

the point of all this is each one does something the others do not, and i've had need of these over the years, and still do. if i figured out all i have currently it would be somewhere south of 25-30k. a lot of money, but the photos provide a lot more memories.
so, if you use it then buy if. if you don't then sell it.
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Feb 17, 2014 10:36:19   #
i do wish you luck with that.
for future reference, should anything like that happen again, do not, and i repeat, do not try to operate it. don't wait for it to dry. stuff it in a plastic bag and box and get it to the repair facility asap, and that may mean overnight shipping.
as lenses and cameras are electronic, you stand a good chance of frying the circuits by attempting to operate it.

hope everything turns out well for you.
cody
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Feb 17, 2014 10:28:02   #
woolpac wrote:
The throw-away society started when perfectly good hardware is no longer supported by the manufacturer. A typical case was when I upgraded to win 7/64 only to find canon has no drivers for my old canon 350d. I hate pulled out CF cards to download, I know it is only a minor issue. Frustration also applies with perfectly good old printers epson in particular have no software support. I do understand manufacturers have a predetermed life cycle on their products but I just hate seeing good stuff going to the landfill.
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indeed. prior to digital, camera and lens manufacturers were driven to make the very best instruments and make them to last - most of you know i still use my 1959 nikon f. it was a source of pride. even e leitz (leica) has not made a camera as good as their M3, introduced in 1954. the same went for lenses and glass. only the very best - not that it always resulted in a stunning lens. but each line had one or two which were real stand outs.

today, image making industries are primarily electronics industries. and products are driven from the top down. so the manufacturer dictates to the market. that would be you. and so every 3 months or 2 years, for the more expensive models, another "improved" model shows up. you know, smile recognition, face recognition (for all who have forgotten what these look like) and of course, video. that's a real joke. wanna take videos, then buy a video camera - that's what they are built for. it costs about $0.50 to slap another burr brown chip in a dslr and call it improved.

manufacturers do not want you to keep your camera for the next 5-10 years - they want you to continuously buy the new model which promises to be better than the last one. for instance, a 6 mega pixel camera is perfectly sufficient for an 8x12 print. so why would most folks need more mega pixels? because they are sold on "it's better" and of course like hell it is.

now most of you know i do not use digital imaging devices, but i will say this: i've tested a lot of them from leica to nikon to fuji to canon. but if i ever were going to buy a "dslr" it would be the Contax N digital at 6 megapixels. it would be more than i would ever need, even making exhibition size images.

so, there you have it. the electronics industry wants you to keep buying the latest and greatest. just remember the more this item does, the more knowledge and ability you lose, and this is what we call "technological progress"

have a happy day, all!
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Feb 17, 2014 09:41:58   #
donmabry wrote:
I hate to show my ignorance and ask a stupid question but, here goes. I've always thought that a 'micro' lens was in some way a close-up lens. Today I was looking at two Nikon lenses, both 85mm. One was described as a micro lens and the other wasn't. I'm wondering what the difference is. There were a couple obvious differences such as one being a f1.8 and the other being an f3.5 but, what is the basic difference between the two types of lenses? I've hesitated in asking this question because there is probably a very obvious and simple answer for anyone who has been around photography for awhile. It probably ranks right up there with 'What is a lens?'. But, I suppose the best way to learn is to swallow my pride and just ask. Be gentle with me now.
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i'm a little late in coming to this, but here goes.
firstly, the elements in the lens are corrected to provide best results at close focusing distances. secondly, the elements are so designed to provide "flat field" results at the close focusing distance. this means that edge to edge of the exposure will not show barrel distortion. thirdly, the lens barrel will indicate the ratio of magnification. this will affect your exposure times. in macro work, the need for very small apertures, to enhance depth of field (the depth of your subject matter which is in focus). this is necessary as the greater the magnification ratio, the less depth of field you have. usually results in slow shutter speeds. if using digital, you can increase your iso but you will loose defination. so, fourthly, a really good tripod and taking your time to closely observe your subject, before making an exposure, will ensure the best results. if using such a lens indoors, artificial lighting will also be of assistance.
kodak has an excellent primer on magnification ratios and close order photography. you can probably fine it on ebay, as it does show up from time to time.
hope this is of assistance to you.
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Feb 17, 2014 09:21:54   #
camerapapi wrote:
This exchange of opinions could easily go forever. One thing I like about digital and to repeat myself I have used film for more than 50 years is that I am not entirely dependent on a technician to print my image the way he likes it. Digital allows me to print the way I like it and to manipulate the image, without departing from reality in ways it was impossible in an optical darkroom.
I am not an expert in dpi but those 24x36 enlargements made from a dSLR camera with a good lens rival those made by a medium format film camera and it is very hard to see grain in the digital print. This has been the primary reason why wedding photographers now use a dSLR instead of a medium format camera.
If the film camera is used to digitize the negative now we have a second generation image that easily when scanned gains contrast and grain unless scanned with a drum scanner which makes the process very expensive.
The versatility of digital and the quality of its images is here to stay and digital cameras keep on getting better as new sensors and features are introduced.
I cannot predict the future of film but most photographers today are using digital and companies like Agfa, Ilford, Ferrania, Fuji and even Kodak have had serious financial problems because film is not selling like it did before.
I want to make sure it is understood that I like film and I learned photography using film but digital is the new media and it is here to stay.
I want to repeat also that there is nothing wrong shooting film, each of us is different and if film gives you the images you want and like then let it be film.
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perhaps you are unable to, but i can determine a digital print from a film based print on photo paper, any dimension. as the digital print image is sprayed onto the paper, whereas the film print is impregnated with the image providing a 3 dimensional view. and no matter how you cut it, and no matter if film is not being sold in previous volumes, neither agfa, fuji, adox or ilford have any plans on cutting back film availability.
as far as digital is concerned, it is an image making process and inferior to film. technology is not progress, it is merely change, and not always for the better.
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Feb 17, 2014 09:16:31   #
ixnay, a 39 mega pixel will provide only 200 dots per inch
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Feb 16, 2014 16:36:38   #
bull drink water wrote:
when I used film,i shot with 200 asa hi-speed ectachrome and got slides that appeared tack sharp of a living room 48x48 size screen at 10-15 feet. how many mp's and what kind of lens would I need to get a print from a digital camera that size?


this is where quality diverges. there is simply nothing which can compare with film. a 50x75 inch print, with a 16.6 mega pixel camera will bgive you an image comprised of 66 dots per inch. a 35mm transparency will provide 94 dots per inch.

so sad that technology usually does not improve, but merely changes...
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Feb 16, 2014 16:31:22   #
KotaKrome wrote:
You make excellent points. I also dodged and burned and used artificial lights in the film days. But when I did so I was working to make the photograph show what my eyes could see but the film did not capture do to it's limitations or the limitations of the photo paper.
I never used darkroom or lighting tricks to make a fake recording of an image unless I was JOKING and the joke was obvious.
Let me be clear that I see NO problem in making a picture with software. My only annoyance is with those who do so and then present an amazing image as if they captured it through good photographic skills alone, not mentioning that they CREATED the image that did not exist in the first place.
This is simply MY personal opinion.
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bingo!!!
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Feb 16, 2014 16:27:04   #
think of something with enough peat in it to have the consistancy of crank-case oil - it takes a tad getting used to.
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Feb 16, 2014 16:22:59   #
tomw wrote:
Not long ago someone talked about how people kept cameras for many years, buying new glass and accessories, but keeping what you have come to know and trust. My OM-1N was my camera for 25 or 30 years, and I stopped using it only when digital cameras (at about 5 MPX) got "good enough" together with the cost of film and time to process to get me to change.

Now, even expensive cameras are throw away. No longer can you improve grain or sensitivity by using different film. Now to go from 8 megapixels to 16, you throw away your camera and buy a new one. And while new features are trumpeted, how much do they really add, once we had auto-focus and auto-exposure which could be used or disabled?

Should we demand industry standard sensors which can snap in and out like a 35mm canister, and let us upgrade rather than discard? Is it more odd to be able to use a Nikon sensor in a Canon camera than to use Kodak film in a Fuji camera? Or a Tamron lens on a Pentax?

Sensor changes would require a software upgrade as well, but we already do that as required.
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yup, the advent of digital and the throw-away society are conjunctive. digital, by its very nature is throw-away.
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Feb 16, 2014 16:20:34   #
SharpShooter wrote:
Fuller, nothing wrong with film, especially if it's large format.
But in 35, the ability to chimp alone, is not worth shooting film.
You do it for financial reasons, I can respect that.
Most shooting film, are not shooting challenging situations. For still shots, sure, shoot away.
You wanna take only one shot, you can do that with any camera. Serious film shooters also bracket, can't afford not to, if you gotta get the shot.
I wouldn't waste my time shooting film in anything smaller than 4x5, where film really has no equal(or bigger). Shoot on. ;-)
SS
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ahhh - here we go again. print quality is measured in dots per inch. at 16.6 mp on an exhibition size print, let's say 24x36, you will have 138 dots per inch.
with a 35mm negative you will have 196 dots per inch.
with my hasselblad you will have 314 dots per inch
with my 4x5 linhof you will have 329 dots per inch
and...yup with my 8x10 you will have 461 dots per inch.
this is why film photographers use film. it is the end result which counts, and that is a print, not a histogram.
ta-ta, all.
let's see, a digital imaging device
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Feb 14, 2014 16:42:18   #
ggttc wrote:
If you want a good glass to improve your skills...I gotta say "scotch".

Does the brand of hammer make you a better carpenter?
Does the brand of garden trowel make your roses prettier?


i agree, as long as it's laphroig!
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Feb 10, 2014 16:05:47   #
ebrunner wrote:
I shoot AMA races (road) and track day events. I use a D7000 and a Sigma 150-500mm. The Nikon focuses very quickly with that lens and I am pleased with my results. I noticed that you seem to shoot at high shutter speeds. I try to shoot at around 125-200/sec. This will blur spokes and gives a nice panned effect. If you get the panning done right, you can manage to get the rider and machine sharp while getting the blur effect that gives the impression of speed. I think your results are very good. The rider and the bike are all very sharp. This type of photography does require good equipment (especially indoors) but I think the person shooting has the biggest influence on the end result. I'm not going to get embroiled in the Nikon/Canon thing. I use a D7000 with a long lens because I don't have press credentials and can't get as close as you can. I like a cropped sensor because it does give me more reach. If you shoot RAW you will find that it fills the buffer very quickly when shooting at 6 frames a second. This can be a problem. For that reason I shoot in JPEG when I'm doing fast action sports. Hope some of this information is worth while.
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hi there - nice images. in re: the canon/nikon thing, just go with the camera which you feel best working with. rent a couple of bodies and see what they can do for you. all the best in your search!
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Feb 7, 2014 15:01:08   #
Nosaj wrote:
Pentax is where it's at, particularly with the K3. There, I've said it! (on a predominantly Canon/Nikon membership site).


if ya gotta do (yuch) digital, Pentax is really the best of the lot. and this is from a (alpabetical) hasselblad, leica, nikon owner. oh yes, all film, of course.
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