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Jun 2, 2018 21:01:38   #
SharpShooter wrote:
Foto, I’ll give you my insights. In 2008 I started a certificated program that was 60 units. It took me 5 years since I was working full time. That was the second time for me, I took 45 units in the old days!! LoL
I can tell you one thing, no amount of studying on your own, no matter how disciplined, can give you what you learn in school.
The vibe of 20 other students(yes kids) doing the same assignment in a completely different way can’t be replicated on the internet, let alone seeing 20 critiques per night.
But be prepared, the assignments are designed to task you and come fast and furious. What you’ll learn is invaluable.
When I went in I was already doing professional shooting(it WAS my second time) and came out shooting several levels above that. My command of using light and strobes was very high after that. I would recommend brick and mortar school to anyone over anything internet if you’re serious. I wouldn’t want an internet brain surgeon!!! LoL
Of course if it’s heavy on PP, it’s were everything is headed, commercially.
The courses are designer to get you a job, and indeed you’ll make many connections. Mine was all photography thus I’m weak on post.
If you have the time and can afford it, GO for it!
This link is one of my favorite photographers, you’ll probably be doing stuff like this. He is heavy into post. This young guy is amazing!!!
Good luck!!!
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http://www.davehillphoto.com/work/15768/composites
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Hi I was mentored by a professional that I trained with and received a salary..
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Jun 2, 2018 20:02:07   #
fotoman150 wrote:
I think it’s four years for the BFA and two years for the certificate.


Hi again.. a 4year certificate might be redundant because the technology of today will be useless or replaced in a yr... I went to school to learn electronics, graduated and found almost everything I had learned was outmoded..
With todays camera technology, taking photos might all be done by a camera not a photographer..
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Jun 2, 2018 19:54:58   #
fotoman150 wrote:
I found an art school that has a BFA. They also have a certificate which is about half the work of the BFA. The BFA is in digital photography as well as the certificate also.

I already know quite a bit about photography and the associated post processing software. But I looked at the course descriptions and I think I could learn a tremendous amount more and really take my photography to a new level.

What do you guys think? I’ve been taking “pitchers” LOL for many years but have never really felt like I was totally proficient. I know it’s hard to know everything but I need to discipline myself if I’m going to learn from like YouTube or other instructional Internet classes.

The problem is I won’t make myself sit down and learn unless I’m striving for a grade and I have other people that I’ve teamed up with in a project that I don’t want to let down. This is why I think going to a college for photography would force me to learn.

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The greatest motivator for me is success and money... Academics grants you only a pice of paper hanging on your wall... Making a living doing something you have a passion for will propel you toward success and financial gain, but for all those academics that have graduated, they are still living at home with mom and dad.. That is being unmotivated... But when you have agreed to a shoot, there is the motivation to succeed at the risk of failure... Today you can get all the how to's you need on line.
Let me give you a personal example of what I'm trying to express..
I wanted to do real estate, but didn't have a clue about that type of photography. I went on line and spent a lot of time on youtube, learning from experienced RE photographers.. It was a learning curve that cost me nothing but time and effort... I have done only 2 RE shoots recently and another RE agent has some planned for me... I have spent over a decade doing studio and remote shoots and decided I wanted to add another type of shoot.. There is just so much you can learn in a class room fotoman, you actually have to go out and apply what you have learned... Academics are smart even brilliant, but have trouble with practical things like actually doing something other than talking about it....
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Jun 2, 2018 19:40:25   #
fotoman150 wrote:
I found an art school that has a BFA. They also have a certificate which is about half the work of the BFA. The BFA is in digital photography as well as the certificate also.

I already know quite a bit about photography and the associated post processing software. But I looked at the course descriptions and I think I could learn a tremendous amount more and really take my photography to a new level.

What do you guys think? I’ve been taking “pitchers” LOL for many years but have never really felt like I was totally proficient. I know it’s hard to know everything but I need to discipline myself if I’m going to learn from like YouTube or other instructional Internet classes.

The problem is I won’t make myself sit down and learn unless I’m striving for a grade and I have other people that I’ve teamed up with in a project that I don’t want to let down. This is why I think going to a college for photography would force me to learn.

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Jun 2, 2018 18:03:11   #
fotoman150 wrote:
I’ve been setting the camera to f5.6 and adjusting the shutter speed until the only thing that is exposed properly is the open window. Then I leave the f-stop where it is and take nine shots one stop apart each from dark to light.

How do you think taking three shots would compared to taking nine shots? Am I doing overkill here? If I could take three shots and get the same result post processing would be much easier. It takes my computer eight hours to process the photos from one house in either light room or infuse.
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Hi Fotoman... My Canon 7D will only allow a 3 shot bracket... I would love more but it would add lots of time down loading. 3 works for me. I produce 30 fully edited HDR images to my agent.. I get $100.00 a house, $200.00 for a bigger home.. .. I spend only an hour in the house, and try to keep the HDR editing in LR down to another hour... I only upload the sequences that I want by stacking them and doing each stack separately.. Generally the blow out from a window is my most concern and lowering the "highlight" slider corrects for a good outside level... The rest is quick and easy...
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Jun 2, 2018 17:52:44   #
jackm1943 wrote:
I'm not sure why you refer to this as a "new" technique when it's been around for years, unless you mean that it's new to you, then I understand.

Regarding in-camera HDR, I just checked my Canon 6D2 and the in-camera HDR gives you a choice of +/- 1, 2, or 3 stops, or letting the camera automatically choose the three exposures. The result takes just 2-3 seconds and, of course, is a jpeg, but that's not such a problem for HDR images if you think about it. I don't use it much but I might try it out more in the future. I'm not sure which cameras have this feature and which do not.
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Hi Jack... I have been a commercial photographer for over a decade, mostly doing studio work, like commercial head and shoulders, products, weddings occasionally & picture day for lots of youth sports clubs... So RE photography is new to me, & haven't looked into a technique till recently... My first RE shoot I used flash, because I am used to using lights... I decided to do ambient HDR.. I know that there are many many other techniques that other pros use, but this one is so simple and effective.. HDR is all new to me, even though its been around for a great amount of time.. I hope to add to my income doing Real estate photography.. Its just a new way of shooting to me..
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Jun 2, 2018 17:44:14   #
imagemeister wrote:
Oh, but I have mentioned it ( JPEG) - and if you do not stick your nose up at it - it works ! The magic IS in the exposures !

It is not a lot about anything - and that is the beauty of it ! - IF you OPEN your mind .... and get away from Canikon...... ..........I am also a Canon user - but not a fanboy for anything - except progress and efficiency in photography......

Bottom line, Sony makes it MUCH easier ....

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Yes you did mention JPEG.. That is an issue for me, as I use LR RAW converter.. I am not a fan of any particular manufacture, as they are spec wise similar... I have used Nikon, Manolta, Sony, as well as Canon. I do a lot of commercial work so I have access to lots of different equipment.. I have many expensive lenses and have to stick with what I have....
I have modified my HDR technique, finding that all I need to do is bracket in Aperture priority, Stack in LR, HDR the stacks & save the final edit... I offer to my RE agent 30 HDR edits, for her web site.. The shoot is around 1 hr and another hour editing for $100.00.... If I have 5 or 6 RE agents that could be $...
Have you done any RE photography? Or is the HDR convient for landscapes ?
As a commercial photographer I do mostly studio work, & this is just a fill in.. BUT can grow into an additional income as well..
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Jun 2, 2018 14:23:18   #
I can't believe I found this article on the new technique for shooting ambient RE shoots... It is exactly what I had come up with.. So, heres the link for those that might want to check out this technique... https://digital-photography-school.com/setting-up-your-digital-camera-for-hdr-shooting/

video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKxihcKLOwk
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Jun 2, 2018 13:44:57   #
RainierView wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. I have now set WB back to auto and it's back to normal.

I didn't shoot in RAW, so best way to correct?


Rainier.... Photography is a learning curve, and when we make mistakes it teaches us... Now you know about WB settings... It may be time for you to try out RAW shooting & take advantage of the editing in LR... BTW, in LR it is easy to correct the "blue" issue....
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Jun 2, 2018 13:37:45   #
Gene51 wrote:
I'd buy one and rent the other. Or rent both.


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Jun 2, 2018 13:36:22   #
BarbB wrote:
I am planning a trip to Namibia, and currently shoot with a canon 5DM4. My longest lens is 70-300L. I was thinking about upgrading to the 100-400L II ( and adding a 1.4 extender) and then I thought about getting a second ( back up ) camera body, maybe the Canon 7DM2 instead. That, with it’s crop factor, would give me almost the same reach as the 100-400 with a 1.4 teleconverter. I could then have a camera with a landscape lens, and one with “wildlife” lens mounted. So, here is the question..How many of you travel with a back up camera, and is it the same model or type as your primary, or would you travel with one camera and a longer reach lens? Any advice would be appreciated. I am trying to make a purchasing decision that will serve me well not only this trip, but for future travels as well.
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A backup camer/lens is a good idea, but the backup doesn't have to be expensive as its just for emergencies.. I shoot weddings and special events and have a back up because I need to get the shot because I am getting paid...
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Jun 2, 2018 13:30:52   #
Stardust wrote:
Think you spel good... I wood have wrote...
"Eye am a pour spiller end ewe Peter should knot make fun."


EGGACTLY!
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Jun 2, 2018 13:26:54   #
10MPlayer wrote:
Way to make a guy feel welcome. Why all the snark over a typo? It's predictable but unnecessary.


Hi Player.. Typos happen all the time to me.. But I use spell check... I don't understand why others don't.. But maybe it doesn't matter?
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Jun 2, 2018 13:24:40   #
chasgroh wrote:
...you're looking at the actual roof there! That's folk art at its best...or worst...


I thought the shot showed a charming old house...
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Jun 2, 2018 13:23:41   #
imagemeister wrote:
Of course you have to tell the camera how many EV exposure you want in the HDR mode - then push the button - and of course you can tweak in post - to your heart's content....

and yes, you should want one !

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Seems to me that the Sony HDR button is just an automatic bracketing mode. After all the camera only needs to set exposure and bracket, the magic is in HDR merge and edit in HDR. What else does the Sony HDR mode do???? I set my bracketing once, & only need to adjust for exposure... Seems like a lot about nothing....BTW you didn't mention that the HDR mode in your camera is only in JPEG.
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