wilpharm wrote:
JamesCurran wrote:
Well, it'll piss off adults who think that because they suffered, everyone else should suffer too.
It's a rather Conservative way of thinking.
conservative has nothing todo with it....I would hate to be the young adult who had just paid off my loan with proceeds of hard work and initiative....just more biden BS and sucking up to young voters
Well, you would if you were a young adult who thinks that because you suffered, everyone else should suffer too.
I maintain it's a rather Conservative way of thinking.
usnpilot wrote:
How about forgiving the hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills owed by cancer patients, which is not a choice. Maybe that is a conservative way thinking also because it makes sense unlike the liberal way of thinking.
That's a WONDERFUL idea! What you suggest is known as a "single-payer health system", and it's widely used around the world. And liberals in the US have been pushing for it for decades.
travelwp wrote:
Biden bribes kids but pisses off adults.
Well, it'll piss off adults who think that because they suffered, everyone else should suffer too.
It's a rather Conservative way of thinking.
Racmanaz wrote:
No you are wrong, this is NOT about the percentage of those who are able to registered to vote. You are way too lost in this conversation to recover. You have absolutely no idea what you are saying.
Obviously, you don't understand the meaning of the phrase "side discussion".
Racmanaz wrote:
You really are clueless aren't you? You seem to be lost in the conversation. Again, does Covid only effect registered voters?
To repeat, "This has nothing to do with covid". This is a side discussion has the percentage of US residents who are able to register to vote.
To bring this back to Covid, the entire point of this thread is claim that Biden is responsible for recent covid deaths. I countered that most of the deaths occur in counties that voted for Trump. Others have down that this is because people in those counties are less likely to get vaccinated and wear masks, and do other high risk behaviors.
So, you can't really blame Biden if a bunch of Trump supporters want to kill themselves (as their way of "owning the libs")
Racmanaz wrote:
What does matter? Does Covid only effect registered voters?? Once again your argument is ridiculous.
It has nothing to do with covid. You called then "unregistered voters", i.e. potential voters who just need to register. I was pointing out that most cannot vote at all.
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Racmanaz wrote:
Also, there are 163.4 million registered voters in the U.S. with a pollution of 330 million, that leaves 167 million unregistered voters it political people.
Not really. A large percentage of the 167 million are a) under 18, b) non-citizens or c) disenfranchised for other reasons (ex-con, et al). They aren't "unregistered voters". They cannot vote.
dennis2146 wrote:
Exactly right. Red and Blue areas relate only to voting. It has nothing to do with Covid spreading. Just more lying corrupt Left Wing BS.
No. Let's start with two well-established facts:
- Republicans (well, Trumpers) are more likely not to be vaccinated.
- Unvaccinated people are more likely to die from Covid.
Hence, Trumpers are more likely to die from Covid than Democrats. This is demonstrated by Republican-majority counties having a higher death rate than Democrat-majority counties.
If you don't accept that, then put forth a theory as to why Republican-majority counties have a higher death rate...
(Just more evidence that Conservatives just can't follow factors to their logical conclusion)
Racmanaz wrote:
WTF does that have to do with anything lol. Do you think only Republicans live in those counties?
No. But MOSTLY Republicans live in those counties. It's simple statistics. If Republican-majority counties have a high death rate, and Democrat-majority counties have a low death rate, you gotta figure it's mostly Republicans who are dying.
jcboy3 wrote:
Republicans have made anti-masking a political statement. As a result, more people die.
It's a Republican plot to kill off old people and save social security.
It's worth noting that the vast majority of the recent covid deaths come from counties that voted for Trump.
SuneBonobo wrote:
I don't know where you're getting your statistics, but the CDC website says 400,715 for Trump's last 12 not just 11 months. And all statistics now are suspect cause the CDC stopped collecting this data back in March21.
Picking a 11 month timeframe is like the global warming statistics. The answer you want all depends on the timeframe you want to choose. One year on either side could skew the statistics.
Did you go through all the myriad 12 month spans of Biden's term to check them out?
I picked 11 months, because 28-Feb-2020 to 20-Jan-2021 is 11 months (minus 1 week). 28-Feb was when the first US Covid death was recorded, so it makes sense to start from there. 21-Jan-2021 to 31-Dec-2021 is also 11 months, so we've got the basic "2020 vs 2021" comparison, just adjusted to be more accurate.
The CDC says we passed 400K deaths on 13-Jan-2021 when Trump still had a week to go.
see for yourself: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_totaldeaths_select_00
FrumCA wrote:
I'm not going to waste time arguing this with you. The founder's plan was simple. It was a compromise the rational of which is too lengthy to debate back and forth here. For your requested citations, you can find that rationale in the history books just as I did. Suffice to say we obviously have different views regarding the intentions of the founders.
Figures...
OK, actual history.....
https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-founding-fathers-constitutional-convention
Quote:
Another camp was dead set against letting the people elect the president by a straight popular vote. First, they thought 18th-century voters lacked the resources to be fully informed about the candidates, especially in rural outposts.
Which, you'll note, is EXACTLY what I said.
Quote:
These intermediaries wouldn’t be picked by Congress or elected by the people. Instead, the states would each appoint independent “electors” who would cast the actual ballots for the presidency.... The drafters of the Constitution assumed that electors would vote according to their individual discretion, not the dictates of a state or national party.
Note, "independent". NOT selected "all or nothing".
FrumCA wrote:
You clearly don't understand the college or why the founding fathers established. That is all!!
I'm quite certain I understand what the Founders intended (which I explained a few posts up).
But, please explain what you think their plan was (and include citations justifying it).
Racmanaz wrote:
351,754 Covid related deaths occurred in the year 2020 under Trump. 455,000 died from covid related deaths in 2021 alone under Biden. Do the math.
Nope. Biden took over 20-Jan, not 1-Jan. And in those three weeks, 70K died. Move those into Trump's column, and we get 420K for Trump's last 11 months, 380K for Biden's first 11 months. (and 230k for the next 11 months)
Architect1776 wrote:
Without the the college 2-4 states would forever rule the rest of the nation.
No, Right now, WITH the college, 2-4 states (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Arizona) rule the rest of the nation.
Without the college, EVERYONE votes independently. There is no "winner take all". A vote in California is now worth EXACTLY what a vote in Ohio, Florida, or Wyoming is.
It's not "2-4 states" that you are worried about. It's the majority. You realize that without the EC, Republicans will never elect a president again (because most people realize how bad they are for the country as a whole)