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Mar 20, 2019 11:16:59   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
nikonnate wrote:
Hey everybody

I did a search on the topic (specifically "d5600") but didn't get very far so I'm straight-up asking.

My wife and I recently had a kid, our first, and she's in picture mode. She wants to take a lot of candid snaps so she can have prints and small canvases made up but only has her phone. I'm sure many of you understand. She likes what I do with my D850 and Sunday night said "maybe you can teach me to use your camera because I don't like my phone as much." I think that's great, but yesterday afternoon I introduced her to the concept of aperture and ISO. I figure going from that level to a D850 is like getting your permit at 15 and having your behind-the-wheel training with a Corvette on a track. And she's a little clumsy....

I looked around at Nikon's APS-C cameras and like the D5600 and D7200 specs. I looked at each of them in-hand last night, I like the simpler menus, I like how each feels in-hand (5600 for the light, compact feel like a mirrorless, the 7200 because it's like a small D850), and I like that each has fewer buttons. She'll like that too because she says just looking at my D850 makes her anxious with all the controls.


So, specifically, how does each fare for entry-level users? I want her to have some creative ability - she'll grow in to either I'm sure - but for now I am looking at pleasantness and ease of use, ease of growing in to the next level, and obvious limitations. I am NOT looking at how many dials each has or how many card slots; that stuff doesn't matter to someone who just learned yesterday what aperture is. How does each handle low-light noise? Which one would you pick for someone interested in portrait and candids, and basic wildlife (like the squirrel in the tree or ducks on the dock next to the boat, not birds in flight).

TIA
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For me, the 5xxx series has too much menu diving. I gave my 5500 away. I never had any of the 7xxx series, but perhaps they are more basic - less menu involved. For a camera which is simple and does not involve menus, and is instructive for beginners just for that reason. I would look for a Fuji XT-1 with the kit lens. Controls are all on the body, so a beginner can learn to use aperture, shutter speed and ISO much more easily than by menu diving. It is light but very well built. Same would go for a used XT-20. I know you want to stick to Nikon because you already have all those lenses, but for shooting kids, all your wife will need for 99% of situations is the excellent 18-55 F2.8 Fuji Kit.

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Mar 20, 2019 11:25:02   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
ngrea wrote:
She’s a new mom. That means sleep-deprived. She has, or will have shortly, a bundle of energy running around demanding her attention. I’d be willing to bet she will be lucky if she can shoot in auto mode during the next 2 years. During that time she may have a few chances to play with settings, but will not have the time and energy to read or watch much instruction. Let her start simple and decide for herself. With a new baby she might prefer to spend half that money on something else. It needs to be HER decision.
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Having had three of them myself, A single new baby does not keep one busy at all. They are like puppies, they eat and sleep, except when they are peeing or pooping. And now with disposable everything, you don't even have much laundry! If she wants to learn how to use a camera to record her newborn's first everything, I still would recommend something like a used Fuji XT-20 with the kit lens.

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Mar 20, 2019 11:25:12   #
chrish
 
I am new to this board, but I wanted to weigh in. I had a film SLR back in the late 70's, then used Canon snap and shoot cameras fo many years. 2 years ago I bought a new DSLR. Narrowed it down to a Canon and the Nikon d5600. Love it. The decider was the smaller "grip". My hands are not large and the d5600 fit better, I like the articulating screen, the WiFi, and for snaps, the auto shoot

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Mar 20, 2019 11:26:17   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
nikonnate wrote:
Hey everybody

I did a search on the topic (specifically "d5600") but didn't get very far so I'm straight-up asking.

My wife and I recently had a kid, our first, and she's in picture mode. She wants to take a lot of candid snaps so she can have prints and small canvases made up but only has her phone. I'm sure many of you understand. She likes what I do with my D850 and Sunday night said "maybe you can teach me to use your camera because I don't like my phone as much." I think that's great, but yesterday afternoon I introduced her to the concept of aperture and ISO. I figure going from that level to a D850 is like getting your permit at 15 and having your behind-the-wheel training with a Corvette on a track. And she's a little clumsy....

I looked around at Nikon's APS-C cameras and like the D5600 and D7200 specs. I looked at each of them in-hand last night, I like the simpler menus, I like how each feels in-hand (5600 for the light, compact feel like a mirrorless, the 7200 because it's like a small D850), and I like that each has fewer buttons. She'll like that too because she says just looking at my D850 makes her anxious with all the controls.


So, specifically, how does each fare for entry-level users? I want her to have some creative ability - she'll grow in to either I'm sure - but for now I am looking at pleasantness and ease of use, ease of growing in to the next level, and obvious limitations. I am NOT looking at how many dials each has or how many card slots; that stuff doesn't matter to someone who just learned yesterday what aperture is. How does each handle low-light noise? Which one would you pick for someone interested in portrait and candids, and basic wildlife (like the squirrel in the tree or ducks on the dock next to the boat, not birds in flight).

TIA
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If you purchase any Nikon DX camera. I strongly recommend you purchase the Nikon DX version 35mm f1.8G lens. You will find that lens to be baby and wife friendly, for photographs.

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Mar 20, 2019 11:27:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
CatMarley wrote:
Having had three of them myself, A single new baby does not keep one busy at all. They are like puppies, they eat and sleep, except when they are peeing or pooping. And now with disposable everything, you don't even have much laundry! If she wants to learn how to use a camera to record her newborn's first everything, I still would recommend something like a used Fuji XT-20 with the kit lens.


Thank you CatMarley. I had the exact same thoughts myself. Of course there are times when the baby needs attention but they do sleep from time to time and other times are awake and just in their cradle, bed or car seat. There are times for good photos.

Dennis

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Mar 20, 2019 11:34:54   #
RobMelone
 
Personally, I'd go with the D7200. Like someone mentioned already, since you have a D850, you can use the lenses you presently have now.

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Mar 20, 2019 11:54:01   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
You can use the lenses on the 5600 as well.
I use my 5500 professionally,
architectural and interiors.
Compact, light, also has 24mpxl. Extremely sharp and tracks moving objects easily.

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Mar 20, 2019 11:59:18   #
duck72 Loc: Laurel Ridge, PA
 
I think you got more replies then I am going to read. My two-cents worth is the D7200 would be the best choice. Yes, they both have the same sensor – that's where the comparison ends. As far as the articulating screen- I see that as an appendage to break off. Since you have a D850, you would be "foolish" to buy a D5600. The D7200 is a far better camera. Even girls can learn to use its more user-friendly interfaces.

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Mar 20, 2019 12:16:17   #
Haydon
 
nikonnate wrote:
Hey everybody

I did a search on the topic (specifically "d5600") but didn't get very far so I'm straight-up asking.

My wife and I recently had a kid, our first, and she's in picture mode. She wants to take a lot of candid snaps so she can have prints and small canvases made up but only has her phone. I'm sure many of you understand. She likes what I do with my D850 and Sunday night said "maybe you can teach me to use your camera because I don't like my phone as much." I think that's great, but yesterday afternoon I introduced her to the concept of aperture and ISO. I figure going from that level to a D850 is like getting your permit at 15 and having your behind-the-wheel training with a Corvette on a track. And she's a little clumsy....

I looked around at Nikon's APS-C cameras and like the D5600 and D7200 specs. I looked at each of them in-hand last night, I like the simpler menus, I like how each feels in-hand (5600 for the light, compact feel like a mirrorless, the 7200 because it's like a small D850), and I like that each has fewer buttons. She'll like that too because she says just looking at my D850 makes her anxious with all the controls.


So, specifically, how does each fare for entry-level users? I want her to have some creative ability - she'll grow in to either I'm sure - but for now I am looking at pleasantness and ease of use, ease of growing in to the next level, and obvious limitations. I am NOT looking at how many dials each has or how many card slots; that stuff doesn't matter to someone who just learned yesterday what aperture is. How does each handle low-light noise? Which one would you pick for someone interested in portrait and candids, and basic wildlife (like the squirrel in the tree or ducks on the dock next to the boat, not birds in flight).

TIA
Hey everybody br br I did a search on the topic (... (show quote)


Just a little off topic. You might consider getting a small continuous lighting setup with an umbrella. It's ideal for newborns and often provides what the camera cannot do alone.

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Mar 20, 2019 12:17:01   #
BillyBob2020 Loc: Michigan
 
One selling point that I haven't seen on here yet for the D7200 over the D5600 is the ability of the D7200 to calibrate the lenses to the camera, the D5600 does not. That's why I went to the D7200, it does make a difference in the quality of focus and DOF.

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Mar 20, 2019 12:24:14   #
Oroglutton Loc: Dallas TX
 
I appreciate the above suggestions and recommendations! They are filled with experience and wisdom.

I would head in a slightly different direction and different question.

I would take the princess to a reputable camera dealer and have her to test drive several of the above suggestions. I would then have her rent several of her pics, accompanied by the wisdom of purveyors for several test drives. Only then, in my opine, will she own her camera and its gifts, instead of borrowing others over-under reach!

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Mar 20, 2019 12:59:49   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Calibrate lenses to camera? Aren't auto focus systems in today's gear as good anymore?

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Mar 20, 2019 13:07:46   #
Haydon
 
kenArchi wrote:
Calibrate lenses to camera? Aren't auto focus systems in today's gear as good anymore?


Because of manufacturing differences, sometimes matching lens and camera creates a front or backfocusing issue. Higher end DSLR cameras have that feature built in for manual correction. Thankfully mirrorless has solved much of that problem.

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Mar 20, 2019 13:24:34   #
chrish
 
Yes!

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Mar 20, 2019 13:25:51   #
chrish
 
Oroglutton wrote:
I appreciate the above suggestions and recommendations! They are filled with experience and wisdom.

I would head in a slightly different direction and different question.

I would take the princess to a reputable camera dealer and have her to test drive several of the above suggestions. I would then have her rent several of her pics, accompanied by the wisdom of purveyors for several test drives. Only then, in my opine, will she own her camera and its gifts, instead of borrowing others over-under reach!
I appreciate the above suggestions and recommendat... (show quote)


Yes

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