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Mar 2, 2019 06:38:58   #
Bipod
 
Bill_de wrote:
Google might get you your info a lot faster.

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You try it, Bill. Camera manufacturers don't like to talk about
where their cameras are made. It's rarely included in their cameara
pages.

I searched extensively for a post on another thread. Never got
a cmplete answer. Hence this thread.

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Mar 2, 2019 06:48:04   #
Bipod
 
LFingar wrote:
5DIV and EOS R. Not that it makes any difference. Canon (or Nikon or hundreds of other international companies) doesn't just go to some company in China or Indonesia or where ever and say "Here, build us this camera." They oversee every aspect of the production of their products. They build the factories. They train the workers. They bring in the specific machinery needed. Their quality control standards are adhered to. Caterpillar, Cummins, and John Deere, to name just a few, build vast amounts of equipment and engines all over the world and I can tell you from long experience that the quality is every bit as good as anything built here in the US.
It's all about the integrity of the company whose name is on the product, not where it is built.
5DIV and EOS R. Not that it makes any difference. ... (show quote)

No company can manufacture anything in China without PRC goverment's approval.
Often it will require technology transfer or tell the foreign company who it must partner with.
It may be required to buy Chinese-made equipment and raw materials or to hire Chinese managers.

No foreigner has the final say on anything in China.

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Mar 2, 2019 06:52:13   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
User ID wrote:
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In some countries workers show up stoned.


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Please identify which countries and which companies. Also please give information on what these businesses are doing about it. Thank you.

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Mar 2, 2019 06:55:44   #
Bipod
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Supposedly, the location doesn't really matter since it's the same company, same design, same type of production equipment, and same worker training. However, I wonder how true that is. My son and I bought new Honda Fits in 2014. It was a new design, and they were made in Mexico. Both cars have had more than their share of trouble - more than I had with thirty-four years of Civic ownership. Was it a bad design by Honda? Did they source bad parts? Was worker training insufficient?

The Mexican factory was flooded in June when heavy rain led to the releasing of water from a reservoir. Production was stopped for months. Couldn't Honda have planned the location of the factory better?

When a product is less than perfect, there is a lot of blame to go around, so pinning it on any one source can be impossible. Although, as Harry Truman said, "The buck stops here."
Supposedly, the location doesn't really matter sin... (show quote)

If location doesn't matter, Jerry, why don't you build your next factory in Afghanistan?

Off-shoring manufacturing is a giant headache. Nobody would do it except to get cheaper labor.

Cheaper labor rarely is better labor. (If you don't believe that, next time you need a lawyer, hire
the cheapest one you can find and see how it works out.)

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Mar 2, 2019 06:59:30   #
Bipod
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Curious about what? The OP might just as well ask, "has anyone bought a camera with a primarily black body" Or "Has any one been outdoors in a place where the air has oxygen?"

Really--are all camera made in Japan? Or most of them?

How do you know? Information about where assembly is done is hard to find on-line.
Carmera company web pages rarely mention it.

According to the sources I could find, very few camera models are assembled in Japan.

So it's rather like asking, "anybody bought a bought a car made in Germany lately?
My old VW was made in Brazil.

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Mar 2, 2019 07:10:22   #
Bipod
 
spaghetti boy wrote:
I not thin skined I worked in machine shops for over 40 years never saw workers stoned may be its a whole new pice of cake now been 30 years that I worked.


On top of which, you've got drug testing by employers.

But manditory testing is only imposed on blue collar wrokers---it doesn't matter if executives
are stoned, apparently. '

And there are very few machine shops left in the USA. To get my diesel stationary engine rebuilt,
I had to haul it 400 miles.

Consumerism is about buying stuff, then throwing it away and buying more stuff. Consumers
don't know how to do anything except consume.

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Mar 2, 2019 09:29:07   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
You ever try to find clothes or shoes made in the USA?
Even top brand clothing are all mostly made in foreign countries now.
Top of the line shoes like Nike, Adidas, and others are all made in China.
Go into a store like J.C. Penny or Macy's and try to find something made in the USA.
You are not going to have much luck in that endeavor.


It's been that way for a long time. No news there. No country produces everything they use and there's no use crying over it. We still are the world's top producing nation, but not in most consumer products. Want the world's finest locomotives, which many countries, including China, do? Then you go to EMD or GE. Diesel engines? Cummins produces more then anyone else. The Chinese military and Russia's Kamaz trucks use them extensively. Wind turbines? GE. Steam turbines and generators? GE again. Tunnel boring machines? Robbins is arguably the world's best. They bored the Chunnel and countless other projects wordwide. Construction equipment? No one tops Caterpillar. Lubricants, especially specialized and industrial? Mobil is the world leader. Agricultural products? Our farmers feed a good part of the world. I could go on and on but the point is that people bitch that we don't build or export anything. The fact is that US products are in demand all over the world but you will never know that if all you look at is the label on your t-shirt or camera.

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Mar 2, 2019 10:17:36   #
spaghetti boy Loc: EVERETT , WASHINGTON
 
No they just find cheap labor and we have no jobs here!

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Mar 2, 2019 12:09:45   #
MDI Mainer
 
The sad thing is I am now old enough to remember (just) when "Made in Japan" was a pejorative!

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Mar 2, 2019 12:14:00   #
BebuLamar
 
Bipod wrote:
You try it, Bill. Camera manufacturers don't like to talk about
where their cameras are made. It's rarely included in their cameara
pages.

I searched extensively for a post on another thread. Never got
a cmplete answer. Hence this thread.


I look for this information often and I do find out quite a bit but I do agree with you the "where it's made" question is a difficult one to find answer.
The fact is when I came to the store (not a camera store) the salesman kept talking to me about all the features of the machines he tried to sell me. He seemed to know everything about it until I asked him where it was made. He didn't have the answer and looked at me funny as if he wondered why I want to know.

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Mar 2, 2019 13:04:18   #
Ray Maines
 
Totally agree

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Mar 2, 2019 14:48:37   #
bodiebill
 
My Canon EOS Rebel T6i is made in Japan

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Mar 3, 2019 10:22:30   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
BebuLamar wrote:
There are 2 ways to adhere to the specs.
First is to make products that almost all of them are within specs.
Second is to make a lot of products but throw away a lot of them that do not meet the specs.

The first case is more desirable I mean in the customer point of view.


All of which should be covered in the specs and the contract. It is like needing a contract for any job.

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Mar 3, 2019 10:45:44   #
BebuLamar
 
dsmeltz wrote:
All of which should be covered in the specs and the contract. It is like needing a contract for any job.


I don't think the contract specify how many bad ones you can make.

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Mar 3, 2019 11:29:19   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think the contract specify how many bad ones you can make.


Yeah. It can.

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