The ILIS vs. IBIS Wars ... which is a better implementation, and for which applications?
Feb 20, 2019 09:28:10 #
Chris T wrote:
Bill - all this is pertinent to Pannys, only, though - right?
You can't use an Oly OIS lens on a Panny, and expect to get DUAL ILIS, now can you?
Nor, can you use a Dual ILIS Panny lens on an Oly and get DUAL ILIS - right?
You can't use an Oly OIS lens on a Panny, and expect to get DUAL ILIS, now can you?
Nor, can you use a Dual ILIS Panny lens on an Oly and get DUAL ILIS - right?
http://hazeghi.org/mft-lenses.html
See link.
Feb 20, 2019 09:31:43 #
Chris T wrote:
Bill … you shouldn't depend on IBIS on an APS-C camera, longer than 150mm (35mm equiv.) huh?
So - you need ILIS in lenses of 180mm or above - is that right?
What about shaking - transmitted to the body … from YOUR body … doesn't IBIS help there?
Regardless of the focal length in use?
So - you need ILIS in lenses of 180mm or above - is that right?
What about shaking - transmitted to the body … from YOUR body … doesn't IBIS help there?
Regardless of the focal length in use?
IBIS and ILIS both help. It’s just that effectiveness of each is reduced at the extremes of the focal length range.
Neither helps with SUBJECT motion. These are just for countering camera shake and vibration.
Feb 20, 2019 09:36:14 #
Chris T wrote:
Ya got ma there, C … RTFM? … What's that mean?
https://www.google.com/search?q=rtfm&oq=RTFM&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.1255j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Everything you want to know about a particular camera and lens combination will be in it.
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Feb 20, 2019 09:38:24 #
User ID wrote:
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Feb 20, 2019 09:40:05 #
Feb 20, 2019 09:43:37 #
Cdouthitt wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?q=rtfm&oq=RTFM&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.1255j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Everything you want to know about a particular camera and lens combination will be in it.
Everything you want to know about a particular camera and lens combination will be in it.
Great link. As a long time reader AND creator of manuals, it’s my mantra for learning most anything.
Feb 20, 2019 09:45:07 #
burkphoto wrote:
Great link. As a long time reader AND creator of manuals, it’s my mantra for learning most anything.
I was going to tell Chris that you knew what it meant...as I've seen you post it several times. I felt it was particularly relevant to the original post.
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Feb 20, 2019 11:44:17 #
Chris T wrote:
Now the Nikon Z6 and Z7 have appeared with built-in IBIS, joining the crowd of cameras which incorporate it - mainly those made by Sony and Pentax, along with all Olympus MFT models, and some Panasonic MFT models - many of which are said to have "Dual ILIS" - we are faced with a conundrum of sorts. Where do we implement DUAL ILIS - in what situations? … And, what problems are we likely to encounter when we do?
OK, I'll bite. WTH are IBIS and ILIS?
Feb 20, 2019 11:51:42 #
edrobinsonjr wrote:
OK, I'll bite. WTH are IBIS and ILIS?
IBIS
In Body Image Stabilization
ILIS
In Lens Image Stabilization
WTH
What the Hell!!!!!
Feb 20, 2019 11:59:43 #
burkphoto wrote:
IBIS and ILIS both help. It’s just that effectiveness of each is reduced at the extremes of the focal length range.
Neither helps with SUBJECT motion. These are just for countering camera shake and vibration.
Neither helps with SUBJECT motion. These are just for countering camera shake and vibration.
Yes, I know … but IBIS is more pertinent to shake in the hands, and ILIS controls shake at the barrel.
I can see where BOTH will help. It's a shame, though - that many devices do not support DUAL IS.
My Sigma leaflet for the 105 OS HSM Macro advises turning OFF OS when in use with a Sony a77 II.
So, the whole reason for buying the Sigma lens, Bill, becomes moot ....
Feb 20, 2019 12:04:05 #
Cdouthitt wrote:
IBIS
In Body Image Stabilization
ILIS
In Lens Image Stabilization
WTH
What the Hell!!!!!
In Body Image Stabilization
ILIS
In Lens Image Stabilization
WTH
What the Hell!!!!!
Thank you very much (TYVM).
Ed
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Feb 20, 2019 12:48:09 #
Chris T wrote:
NOW - you've quite lost it, USER …
And, just after I took your little note to heart,
and made a post to please YOU (and others,
LIKE you) too!!!
And, just after I took your little note to heart,
and made a post to please YOU (and others,
LIKE you) too!!!
What "others, LIKE [me]" ? ?
There are NONE ! !
You don't hafta to "try to please" me.
Just never stop entertaining me, OK ?
That's a positive comment, so don't
turn it upside down ;-)
.
Feb 20, 2019 13:00:15 #
Feb 20, 2019 13:26:33 #
Yeah! We need a UHH acronym compendium.
MHABD - My Hearing Aid Battery is Dead.
DLMCH - Drat, Left My Camera Home.
WTHDTSF - What the Hell Does That Stand For?
Ed
MHABD - My Hearing Aid Battery is Dead.
DLMCH - Drat, Left My Camera Home.
WTHDTSF - What the Hell Does That Stand For?
Ed
Feb 20, 2019 13:46:52 #
SSM - Someone's Sharper Moon - It means I photoshopped a sharper moon photo over mine.
SIFG - Secret Internet Fat Guy. (It means I made myself look thin using Photoshop.)
S&P - Spray and Pray. (It means I have a camera that shoots more than 8 frames per second.)
INBPTJHYFL - Its not a bad photo, that's just how your face looks.
IYDGAPIDH - If you didn't get a picture, it didn't happen.
SIFG - Secret Internet Fat Guy. (It means I made myself look thin using Photoshop.)
S&P - Spray and Pray. (It means I have a camera that shoots more than 8 frames per second.)
INBPTJHYFL - Its not a bad photo, that's just how your face looks.
IYDGAPIDH - If you didn't get a picture, it didn't happen.
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