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Feb 19, 2019 15:12:37   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Chris T wrote:

I'm on dial-up


That's what you should upgrade...not your camera. Welcome to 2019.

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Feb 19, 2019 15:19:13   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
That's what you should upgrade...not your camera. Welcome to 2019.


It's all about money, see, C? …

Not really interested in upgrading, anyway, C … I already have the best Sony APS-C out there …

Also have a pretty capable Nikon in the D7100, and the D5500 …

And, my EOS 60D - although, a little bit older than the others - is STILL a helluva camera.

I post my threads, to engage folks in discussion, not to generate support for buying something new.

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Feb 19, 2019 15:25:58   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
Richard - most software is INSTALLED on a PC's hard drive, where it is no longer volatile.

As far as postage being expensive, yes - it HAS gone up in recent years. However, mailing of a CD/DVD - when you've just given proof you've bought a $4500 camera - hardly seems worth a blink!!!!


I am not talking about personal computers. I'm talking about cameras.

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Feb 19, 2019 16:08:03   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
I am not talking about personal computers. I'm talking about cameras.


Richard - can't really see there's any difference between doing a download to a camera, and installing it from a CD loaded onto the PC, and then connecting the camera to it, and going from there - can you?

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Feb 19, 2019 16:10:05   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Chris T wrote:
Richard - can't really see there's any difference between doing a download to a camera, and installing it from a CD loaded onto the PC, and then connecting the camera to it, and going from there - can you?


Money...download is free, a CD is not.

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Feb 19, 2019 18:02:05   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Money...download is free, a CD is not.


When you show you've spent four grand plus for a camera, it sure as hell should be, C …

Actually, a download is not entirely free, as you must pay for the bandwidth and the connection.

It might even work out CHEAPER, having a CD sent to you … what could it cost? … $3-4 ????


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Feb 19, 2019 18:03:53   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
When you show you've spent four grand plus for a camera, it sure as hell should be, C …

Actually, a download is not entirely free, as you must pay for the bandwidth and the connection.

It might even work out CHEAPER, having a CD sent to you … what could it cost? … $3-4 ????



Cheaper for the company that provides the software.

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Feb 19, 2019 18:13:44   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Cheaper for the company that provides the software.


Which is cheaper, Richard? … The CD or the Download?

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Feb 19, 2019 18:20:01   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Chris T wrote:
Which is cheaper, Richard? … The CD or the Download?


Quit being obtuse. Use your brain on this one.

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Feb 19, 2019 18:25:43   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Quit being obtuse. Use your brain on this one.


If I knew what Richard was thinking when he wrote that, I'd have not needed to ask the question, C …

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Feb 19, 2019 18:54:30   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
If I knew what Richard was thinking when he wrote that, I'd have not needed to ask the question, C …


Again:
Postage is expensive. With downloads all you need is a server to host them on and bandwidth, and access can be world wide.

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Feb 19, 2019 19:02:33   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Again:
Postage is expensive. With downloads all you need is a server to host them on and bandwidth, and access can be world wide.


But, if one calculated the cost of the bandwidth, and the cost of the time it takes to download something of this magnitude, I think you might find the CD and postage to send it, might, possibly - be cheaper.

I wonder who does these kinds of statistics, Richard. There MUST be someone, who does ….

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Feb 19, 2019 23:01:53   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Chris T wrote:
But, if one calculated the cost of the bandwidth, and the cost of the time it takes to download something of this magnitude, I think you might find the CD and postage to send it, might, possibly - be cheaper.

I wonder who does these kinds of statistics, Richard. There MUST be someone, who does ….


The "bean counters" do this, and some managers.
Consider the CD's:
People to burn the CD's
People to stick the labels on the CDs
People to adress the envelopes.
People to put the CDs into the enevelopes.
People to lick the stamps and attach them to the envelopes.
People to take the envelopes to the post office for posting.

Consider downloads:
Once it has been set up then the customer does it all.
ie: No workers needed and that can be a major part of the operating costs.

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Feb 19, 2019 23:18:25   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
The "bean counters" do this, and some managers.
Consider the CD's:
People to burn the CD's
People to stick the labels on the CDs
People to adress the envelopes.
People to put the CDs into the enevelopes.
People to lick the stamps and attach them to the envelopes.
People to take the envelopes to the post office for posting.

Consider downloads:
Once it has been set up then the customer does it all.
ie: No workers needed and that can be a major part of the operating costs.
The "bean counters" do this, and some ma... (show quote)


And then all the cd’s end up in the dump...just download the dang firmware and be done with it. Quit trying to make an agreement out of nothin, Chris.

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Feb 19, 2019 23:30:06   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
The "bean counters" do this, and some managers.
Consider the CD's:
People to burn the CD's
People to stick the labels on the CDs
People to adress the envelopes.
People to put the CDs into the enevelopes.
People to lick the stamps and attach them to the envelopes.
People to take the envelopes to the post office for posting.

Consider downloads:
Once it has been set up then the customer does it all.
ie: No workers needed and that can be a major part of the operating costs.
The "bean counters" do this, and some ma... (show quote)


You make it seem like six people do all that!!! ... Why can't one?

That's part of the problem w/ the American system ... too much breakdown of a simple task into too many different parts .... with UNIONS governing each part ...

I can see it now ... The Brothers of Stamp Lickers Union ....

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