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Jan 27, 2019 14:01:59   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
CaptainEd wrote:
It amazes me how many folks here think the only answer to every photo situation is "hire a pro" with "pro gear" or the picture isn't worth taking.


Strange that anyone would think the only answer to every landscaping need is to "hire a pro" with a degree and special cultivars and techniques or else the landscaping is not worth doing.

I can understand that he doesn't want to "give away his secrets." Right. But I guess he would like photographers to give away their secrets. The very idea of "secrets" in horticulture puts my teeth on edge as well. He is certainly not the first person to develop promote and use polyploidal cultivars, which is how you get more robust plants, more blooms and brighter colors. That approach dominates the industry and has for hundreds of years, and that is nit necessarily a good thing. Enlightened gardeners and landscapers are moving away from that thinking over to more responsible methods.

It is not that hiring a pro is the only way to go. It is a way to consider going. I am surprised that you are surprised that people here would suggest that for your client.

Mike

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Jan 27, 2019 14:13:57   #
CaptainEd
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Your contemptuous remarks about professionals are strange given that you described the person as your client and claimed this client was a high end professional.

The point I am making is that it is ironic that a guy whose business is based on high-end professionalism in a field that is dominated by DIY folks and part timers is not applying the same logic to his needs for photos.

My neighbor, who is a high end carpenter, does not care if I cut a board. But to promote his work he wants the best possible images and hires a professional photographer. (Not me, by the way, I am an amateur. But I know photographers who specialize in that sort of work.) My mechanic doesn't care if I change my own oil, either.

Beyond that, it might be a smart business decision to bring in a pro rather than spend money and time buying and learning to use photographic equipment.

Why not pass on my suggestion to your friend and let him decide whether or not my commentary was useless?

Mike
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Perhaps you missed the point, so let me be clear: my remarks were not intended to be "contemptuous remarks about professionals", rather contemptuous of attitudes such as your own.

I have the utmost respect for professionals and a good idea of when to call one in. What I have and have not discussed with my client is none of your business and way out of scope of the relatively simple question that was asked. Don't you have something better to do?

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Jan 27, 2019 16:35:36   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Have him hire a pro. My 2 cents.


Excellent advice. He may be a bitchin Landscaper, but a so-so Photographer.

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Jan 27, 2019 20:47:44   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
CaptainEd wrote:
What I have and have not discussed with my client is none of your business...


You introduced your client to the discussion, not I. You asked for advice. We gave our opinions.

No hard feelings, no big deal, no reason to get bent out of shape.

Mike

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Jan 28, 2019 06:33:51   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Landscaping is a tough business and a camera may spend a lot of time in the glovebox of a Ford F150.
So get an Olympus Tough TG-5.
WiFi capable
It’s waterproof (50 ft / 15 m)
shockproof (7 ft / 2.1 m)
crushproof (220 lbf / 100 kgf)
freezeproof (14°F / -10°C)
F2.0 high-speed lens
20 fps burst shooting in RAW
anti-fog dual pane glass for spectacular images in every environment
EASY TO USE - Set it to Full Auto or use the Many Added Special Features
$429.00 at Costco
Thanks,
JimmyT Sends
https://www.costco.com/Olympus-Tough-TG-5-Camera-Bundle.product.100372136.html
CaptainEd wrote:
I've got a client that is in the Landscaping business. Not a mow-and-blow guy, rather high end commercial design, installation and maintenance. I'd like to use photos of his actual work for his web site and marketing materials, but everything he sent me, and all he has, was shot with his iPhone, complete with dirty lense.

He's asked me what kind of camera to purchase for better shots I can use. I was originally thinking of having him grab a Rebel kit, but even that is likely more complicated than he's going to spend time figuring out.

I do want him to be able to shoot RAW+JPG so I can correct the exposure and white balance of the photos he takes. The photos will mainly be used for his web site, blog articles and email campaigns. I doubt large prints will be an issue, he can hire a local pro for that level.

So, I'm thinking:

Something that shoots RAW+JPG
Moderate optical zoom
Behaves decently on "Auto" but offer aperture priority mode.
Tough enough travel with him, though I don't think weather sealing is a big issue.

I shoot Canon, but am brand-agnostic for this application.

We haven't discussed budget, but I know he likes to do things "right" rather than skimp and I told him it could cost $500 to $1000 and he wasn't taken aback by that.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

-Ed G.
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Jan 28, 2019 06:37:29   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm with Stan on this one.
--Bob
CaptainEd wrote:
I've got a client that is in the Landscaping business. Not a mow-and-blow guy, rather high end commercial design, installation and maintenance. I'd like to use photos of his actual work for his web site and marketing materials, but everything he sent me, and all he has, was shot with his iPhone, complete with dirty lense.

He's asked me what kind of camera to purchase for better shots I can use. I was originally thinking of having him grab a Rebel kit, but even that is likely more complicated than he's going to spend time figuring out.

I do want him to be able to shoot RAW+JPG so I can correct the exposure and white balance of the photos he takes. The photos will mainly be used for his web site, blog articles and email campaigns. I doubt large prints will be an issue, he can hire a local pro for that level.

So, I'm thinking:

Something that shoots RAW+JPG
Moderate optical zoom
Behaves decently on "Auto" but offer aperture priority mode.
Tough enough travel with him, though I don't think weather sealing is a big issue.

I shoot Canon, but am brand-agnostic for this application.

We haven't discussed budget, but I know he likes to do things "right" rather than skimp and I told him it could cost $500 to $1000 and he wasn't taken aback by that.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

-Ed G.
I've got a client that is in the Landscaping busin... (show quote)

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Jan 28, 2019 07:26:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I hate to disappoint you, but it hardly matters. Even a cell phone can take suitable photos. Spending $4,000 on a DSLR will not guarantee that he will produce beautiful pictures. The camera is one half of the formula. The operator is the other. A $200 compact should be fine. A "tough" camera would probably be a good choice if it's going to be traveling with him.

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Jan 28, 2019 07:27:54   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
bsprague wrote:
Captain,

The TG-5 shoots JPEG+RAW and does it well. More importantly, for your situation, it has an incredibly good full automatic setting. For mine, I bought the accessory that adds the ability to screw on a protective filter. The TG-5 is rugged, but a lens is a lens. I can clean the filter with a shirtsleeve and I can lose the lens cap. When I scratch the filter I can screw on a new one.

Regarding "quality", the small TG-5 sensor with the camera's brains will do more than enough for websites and brochures.

Here are some sample TG-5 full automatic to RAW with Lightroom post processing images: https://adobe.ly/2ETIedP
Captain, br br The TG-5 shoots JPEG+RAW and does ... (show quote)


The TG-5 was my first thought for a camera likely living in the cab of a landscaper’s truck, but I did not know the answer to the raw+jpeg question. With that answered, and the extra “cheap insurance” of the add on filter, seem like a great choice.

for the more “professional” shots, the OP can take them occasionally when visiting (using the stuff sent along the way to identify projects worthy of better shots) or the client can hire it out to a local pro

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Jan 28, 2019 07:29:12   #
Nosaj Loc: Sarasota, Florida
 
Canon G5X

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Jan 28, 2019 07:35:15   #
rond-photography Loc: Connecticut
 
CaptainEd wrote:
I've got a client that is in the Landscaping business. Not a mow-and-blow guy, rather high end commercial design, installation and maintenance. I'd like to use photos of his actual work for his web site and marketing materials, but everything he sent me, and all he has, was shot with his iPhone, complete with dirty lense.

He's asked me what kind of camera to purchase for better shots I can use. I was originally thinking of having him grab a Rebel kit, but even that is likely more complicated than he's going to spend time figuring out.

I do want him to be able to shoot RAW+JPG so I can correct the exposure and white balance of the photos he takes. The photos will mainly be used for his web site, blog articles and email campaigns. I doubt large prints will be an issue, he can hire a local pro for that level.

So, I'm thinking:

Something that shoots RAW+JPG
Moderate optical zoom
Behaves decently on "Auto" but offer aperture priority mode.
Tough enough travel with him, though I don't think weather sealing is a big issue.

I shoot Canon, but am brand-agnostic for this application.

We haven't discussed budget, but I know he likes to do things "right" rather than skimp and I told him it could cost $500 to $1000 and he wasn't taken aback by that.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

-Ed G.
I've got a client that is in the Landscaping busin... (show quote)


You said you shoot Canon - sounds like you already have a camera. Even if you have a point and shoot, being on this forum says you do photos. You probably already have a camera that can do better than a dirty cell phone!

But, if not sure, then hire a pro. Pay the pro and charge client for the photos (with profit margin). I often shoot for a company that does social media posting and I just get paid - have no idea what they actually bill their client.

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Jan 28, 2019 08:29:19   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I'm thinking an Olympus Tough TG5. It can get knocked around in his truck, survive drops and raindrops, it has a panorama mode, it does shoot raw and jpeg ( but I don't know if it will do both at the same time). It has aperture priority. Do you have a camera store nearby that you can take him to? Let him get his hands around the camera to see which feels comfortable to him.

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Jan 28, 2019 08:54:38   #
CaptainEd
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Landscaping is a tough business and a camera may spend a lot of time in the glovebox of a Ford F150.
So get an Olympus Tough TG-5.
WiFi capable
It’s waterproof (50 ft / 15 m)
shockproof (7 ft / 2.1 m)
crushproof (220 lbf / 100 kgf)
freezeproof (14°F / -10°C)
F2.0 high-speed lens
20 fps burst shooting in RAW
anti-fog dual pane glass for spectacular images in every environment
EASY TO USE - Set it to Full Auto or use the Many Added Special Features
$429.00 at Costco
Thanks,
JimmyT Sends
https://www.costco.com/Olympus-Tough-TG-5-Camera-Bundle.product.100372136.html


Landscaping is a tough business and a camera may s... (show quote)


Based on an earlier reply, I took a good look at this one and like it a lot for what it will be used for. The sony RX100 that was suggested also looks very good.

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Jan 28, 2019 08:56:38   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Stick with the iPhone, clean the lens, and get the Pro Camera App to shoot RAW for you to process. He can figure out how to process his own JPEG’s from the RAW's for his own use. If he can’t do that, he may not be able to master a DSLR.

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Jan 28, 2019 09:41:22   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"Have him hire a pro. My 2 cents." I could not agree more.
If indeed he is serious about his business why not hire a professional?

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Jan 28, 2019 10:34:08   #
PioneerAl
 
I'd suggest a Panasonic Lumix FZ300. Cost &300 - 350 with necessary additions. Excellent pix,sharp photos without editing.

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