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Jan 24, 2019 07:59:37   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Texcaster wrote:
I understand that everyone is still excited from whooping it up on the other threads celebrating Fox's story line and heroic attempts to discredit Nathan Phillips. All we have are videos showing the visceral face of hate and some disparate first hand accounts of what happened. Fox has cobbled together their story for you.


You're full of crap which is somewhat unusual for you, the kid was waiting for a bus, the so called elder approached him and stood face to face with him and the kid did not react but he did keep his ground without issuing racial slurs or any other negative speech. Somehow you want to demonize this child, for what? What did this child do that you consider to be disrespectful or evil? Supporting the president of the United States? Protesting the killing of babies? What is it in your mind that makes this child so evil? You are doing nothing more than following the crowd of evil haters.

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Jan 24, 2019 08:01:04   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Texcaster wrote:
You're letting the kids off the scale? Phillips gave away no emotion, especially his fear for his personal safety.


What fear? The man was the aggressor, he is the one who chose to put himself in the space he found himself and no one ever threatened him.

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Jan 24, 2019 08:11:03   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Texcaster wrote:
You're letting the kids off the scale? Phillips gave away no emotion, especially his fear for his personal safety.


They are just children being invaded by adults mocking and attacking them.
The children did not approach the scum Indian nor the democrat black Israelites.
They were where they were told to be and stayed there while being approached and attacked.
Libs are so stupid.

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Jan 24, 2019 08:28:15   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What fear? The man was the aggressor, he is the one who chose to put himself in the space he found himself and no one ever threatened him.


You should read Phillips' account.

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Jan 24, 2019 08:31:35   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Architect1776 wrote:
They are just children being invaded by adults mocking and attacking them.
The children did not approach the scum Indian nor the democrat black Israelites.
They were where they were told to be and stayed there while being approached and attacked.
Libs are so stupid.



https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/01/22/covington-catholic-protest-media-coverage-224072

FOURTH ESTATE
I Know the Truth About the Covington Catholic Controversy

Tell me how you voted, and I’ll tell you what you think you saw. By JACK SHAFER January 22, 2019


"Pick your side, pick a video and come out fighting."

"If only we had video of disputed incidents from which to judge impartially, our presurveillance era peers said. Their faith in cinematographic evidence would have been shattered by the brouhaha that followed the uploading to the web of videos of the National Mall incident of Jan. 18. Here we are, four days after the intersection on social media of the Covington Catholic High School students, Native American veteran Nathan Phillips and several Black Hebrew Israelites and there's still no consensus of what happened and who—if anyone—was at fault."

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Jan 24, 2019 08:38:14   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Texcaster wrote:
You should read Phillips' account.


The same guy who claims he was spit upon on his return from Vietnam, the same guy who never set foot in Vietnam? Phillips approached the kids, the black Hewbrews were spewing all kinds of hate, the kids were wearing MAGA hats while waiting for a bus so of course these 15 year olds had to be the aggressors.

Phillips is an activist, it is his job to call attention to his own victimhood, are you really going to continue to push this even though the video shows otherwise? Phillips wanted a confrontation he never got and is still trying to make the most of it by putting a disingenuous narrative out there.

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Jan 24, 2019 08:45:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Texcaster wrote:
You should read Phillips' account.


The lying sack of shit with stolen valor that lies about everything disgracing the Marine Corps, that Phillips?

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Jan 24, 2019 09:01:50   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Texcaster wrote:
So it was a good thing Phillips intervened before things got really ugly? Make up your mind please.


You seem to have an overwhelming proclivity to deny reality.

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Jan 24, 2019 09:03:39   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Texcaster wrote:
You should read Phillips' account.


They will only read whatever soothes there injured brains.

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Jan 24, 2019 09:04:57   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
The same guy who claims he was spit upon on his return from Vietnam, the same guy who never set foot in Vietnam? Phillips approached the kids, the black Hewbrews were spewing all kinds of hate, the kids were wearing MAGA hats while waiting for a bus so of course these 15 year olds had to be the aggressors.

Phillips is an activist, it is his job to call attention to his own victimhood, are you really going to continue to push this even though the video shows otherwise? Phillips wanted a confrontation he never got and is still trying to make the most of it by putting a disingenuous narrative out there.
The same guy who claims he was spit upon on his re... (show quote)

My guess is that Tex and Jesse Macbeth get together and play army.

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Jan 24, 2019 09:27:43   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Texcaster wrote:
You should read Phillips' account.


I read it...I listened to him. Taken by itself, his story seems sincere and convincing. But I watched a 15-20 minute video of the incident. There are quite a few moving parts.

I read a bit about his history.

He is full of shit, in spite of being skilled at painting a convincing victimstance image.

I would not call the kids heros, but they certainly are not the demons which some of the press and media rushed to paint them as. Doing the tomohawk chant for a few seconds was their worst sin, and that is pretty much nothing compared to Phillip's sidekick throwing F-Bombs at them before they did it.

If being used to create some propaganda, then being cleared of their "crime" of "Standing while White with Red Hats" makes them heros, then they are that.

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Jan 24, 2019 09:34:04   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Texcaster wrote:
Contrary to indignant attic wingers wishes this mob of red hat dupes are not MAGA heros.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/23/how-conservative-media-transformed-the-covington-catholic-students-from-pariahs-to-heroes

Conservatives have realized they can construct a parallel reality and have it accepted

In just four days, teenager Nick Sandmann and his fellow students at Covington Catholic high school have gone from social media pariahs to conservative heroes

The relentlessly repeated talking point — that there was a collective “rush to judgment” on the boys because they were Trump supporters – was used by conservative anchors Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham to attack mainstream media and left leaning social media users.

On Wednesday morning, Sandmann got almost nine minutes of airtime on a national breakfast program to make his case, after his family hired a Republican-linked PR firm.

In making this happen, conservative media have normalized the boys’ aggressive form of political expression, and tried to further discredit both fact-oriented media and high-profile liberals. Media outlets have been effectively gaslighted, and many climbed down from coverage which was based on the most clear and obvious interpretation of the boys chanting, making gestures and making tomahawk chops.

What it tells us is that in 2019, conservatives understand they can construct a parallel reality and have it accepted. They can act in bad faith and prevail, using tried and tested tactics that liberal media continue to fall for




1. Reframe the debate as soon as possible

A particular version of events based on early footage can always be called into question, and another version put forward as definitive, as more footage, and alternative edits of footage emerge. Partisans can pick and choose, knowing that a definitive version of what happened may not emerge before the news cycle has moved on.

Just as importantly, additional footage allows the discussion to be reframed. Instead of asking why a group of schoolboys were protesting wearing hats that many in the community view as a symbol of racism, conservatives quickly turned it into a game of who approached whom, and began discussing the teenagers as if they were literal martyrs.


2. Pick your narratives

So far, conservative media has been unified and resolute in hammering the narrative that Nathan Philips, a Native American veteran, somehow provoked the boys by coming between them and a small group of Black Hebrew Israelites, to whose insults they had responded with chants.

No amount of additional footage showing their Maga-yelling rowdy behavior and sexist comments before the event – not even clear and concise edits showing how aggressive and provocative the teens were and how calm Phillips was – is capable of knocking them off this course.

If you want a lesson in how this kind of persistence works, look at the coverage from Gateway Pundit since Saturday. Very early on, Jim Hoft recognized the symbolic value of the confrontation, doggedly pushed his own, partial interpretation of events, smeared everyone on the other side, and then brought the entirety of conservative media with him. (Earlier, even some conservative outlets had been critical of the boys). His reward was seeing that version of events trumpeted by Tucker Carlson on Monday night, who also launched a broadside at any conservatives who had wavered from exonerating the teens.

That night, and Tuesday, Carlson’s fellow Fox News hosts were singing from the same songsheet. And if Fox News presents a unified message, the president frequently echoes it.


3. Focus on the extremes of the other side


Another tactic conservative media uses is to only consider the most appalling versions of opposing arguments, and to focus their audience’s anger on reliable scapegoats.

To avoid confronting reasonable arguments or new evidence, conservatives emphasize the worst of the other side – like tweets calling for violence or doxxing. Tweets calling for violence or doxxing against high school students are obviously and clearly unacceptable, but nor are they typical of the criticisms made of the boys, their school and their conduct. They also focus the audience on liberal journalists and celebrities – mostly women – who their audience feel comfortable in deriding and dismissing.

As of Wednesday, as a result of these well-worn tactics, liberal media has almost completely backed away from their initial, justified take on the story.
Contrary to indignant attic wingers wishes this mo... (show quote)



Still trying to destroy the Kids I see.

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Jan 24, 2019 09:49:33   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
They will only read whatever soothes there injured brains.


Crack Cracked Krackers.... LOL

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Jan 24, 2019 10:00:00   #
FrumCA
 
Texcaster wrote:
You should read Phillips' account.

Given his lies claiming service in Vietnam I don't believe a word of what he says in his account. Phillips was clearly the one who initiated the aggression towards the boys.

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Jan 24, 2019 10:06:30   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Texcaster wrote:
Contrary to indignant attic wingers wishes this mob of red hat dupes are not MAGA heros.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/23/how-conservative-media-transformed-the-covington-catholic-students-from-pariahs-to-heroes

Conservatives have realized they can construct a parallel reality and have it accepted

In just four days, teenager Nick Sandmann and his fellow students at Covington Catholic high school have gone from social media pariahs to conservative heroes

The relentlessly repeated talking point — that there was a collective “rush to judgment” on the boys because they were Trump supporters – was used by conservative anchors Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham to attack mainstream media and left leaning social media users.

On Wednesday morning, Sandmann got almost nine minutes of airtime on a national breakfast program to make his case, after his family hired a Republican-linked PR firm.

In making this happen, conservative media have normalized the boys’ aggressive form of political expression, and tried to further discredit both fact-oriented media and high-profile liberals. Media outlets have been effectively gaslighted, and many climbed down from coverage which was based on the most clear and obvious interpretation of the boys chanting, making gestures and making tomahawk chops.

What it tells us is that in 2019, conservatives understand they can construct a parallel reality and have it accepted. They can act in bad faith and prevail, using tried and tested tactics that liberal media continue to fall for




1. Reframe the debate as soon as possible

A particular version of events based on early footage can always be called into question, and another version put forward as definitive, as more footage, and alternative edits of footage emerge. Partisans can pick and choose, knowing that a definitive version of what happened may not emerge before the news cycle has moved on.

Just as importantly, additional footage allows the discussion to be reframed. Instead of asking why a group of schoolboys were protesting wearing hats that many in the community view as a symbol of racism, conservatives quickly turned it into a game of who approached whom, and began discussing the teenagers as if they were literal martyrs.


2. Pick your narratives

So far, conservative media has been unified and resolute in hammering the narrative that Nathan Philips, a Native American veteran, somehow provoked the boys by coming between them and a small group of Black Hebrew Israelites, to whose insults they had responded with chants.

No amount of additional footage showing their Maga-yelling rowdy behavior and sexist comments before the event – not even clear and concise edits showing how aggressive and provocative the teens were and how calm Phillips was – is capable of knocking them off this course.

If you want a lesson in how this kind of persistence works, look at the coverage from Gateway Pundit since Saturday. Very early on, Jim Hoft recognized the symbolic value of the confrontation, doggedly pushed his own, partial interpretation of events, smeared everyone on the other side, and then brought the entirety of conservative media with him. (Earlier, even some conservative outlets had been critical of the boys). His reward was seeing that version of events trumpeted by Tucker Carlson on Monday night, who also launched a broadside at any conservatives who had wavered from exonerating the teens.

That night, and Tuesday, Carlson’s fellow Fox News hosts were singing from the same songsheet. And if Fox News presents a unified message, the president frequently echoes it.


3. Focus on the extremes of the other side


Another tactic conservative media uses is to only consider the most appalling versions of opposing arguments, and to focus their audience’s anger on reliable scapegoats.

To avoid confronting reasonable arguments or new evidence, conservatives emphasize the worst of the other side – like tweets calling for violence or doxxing. Tweets calling for violence or doxxing against high school students are obviously and clearly unacceptable, but nor are they typical of the criticisms made of the boys, their school and their conduct. They also focus the audience on liberal journalists and celebrities – mostly women – who their audience feel comfortable in deriding and dismissing.

As of Wednesday, as a result of these well-worn tactics, liberal media has almost completely backed away from their initial, justified take on the story.
Contrary to indignant attic wingers wishes this mo... (show quote)


Texcaster, you are some piece of work. I would expect a depraved thread like this from Dirtbag or thom w, I was shocked and saddened to see that you could stoop to their low level also.

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