Why is exposure so confusing?
Jan 22, 2019 20:47:08 #
lonewolf456 wrote:
I'm starting to question my decision to be part of the Hog forum. Seems the technical peeps insist on talking about highly technical preferences which most people don't understand and have little interest or knowledge. I'm into photography for fun, not dissecting the numerous options available with most DLSR cameras. Keep it simple, and you keep me. Otherwise, I'm packing my bags.
Me too I am having fun! Too bad you don't!
Jan 22, 2019 20:47:13 #
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Even if we stipulated that what you say about Bipo... (show quote)
Why not take your own advice and just ignore my posts?
Jan 22, 2019 20:49:00 #
I believe that if you have developed a solid understanding of the triangle, you can forget about all those spreadsheets, algorithms, etc, including all the markings on the lens itself, and with a couple test shots, you can produce satisfying photos. A couple twists here and there, a peek at the back screen, and there you are.
Jan 22, 2019 20:49:01 #
lonewolf456 wrote:
I'm starting to question my decision to be part of the Hog forum. Seems the technical peeps insist on talking about highly technical preferences which most people don't understand and have little interest or knowledge. I'm into photography for fun, not dissecting the numerous options available with most DLSR cameras. Keep it simple, and you keep me. Otherwise, I'm packing my bags.
Maybe it's time for the UHH "logarithmic photographers" to get their own sub-section?
Jan 22, 2019 20:51:38 #
lonewolf456 wrote:
I'm starting to question my decision to be part of the Hog forum. Seems the technical peeps insist on talking about highly technical preferences which most people don't understand and have little interest or knowledge. I'm into photography for fun, not dissecting the numerous options available with most DLSR cameras. Keep it simple, and you keep me. Otherwise, I'm packing my bags.
Only a couple of people once in awhile show up on UHH abs want to take over the forum. If you stick around a while longer, these ego maniacs are usually banned. On the other hand, if you avoid the main forum, there are many specialized forums that are moderated by members and you will not see the BS that is going on in the main forum.
Jan 22, 2019 20:53:17 #
DeanS wrote:
I believe that if you have developed a solid understanding of the triangle, you can forget about all those spreadsheets, algorithms, etc, including all the markings on the lens itself, and with a couple test shots, you can produce satisfying photos. A couple twists here and there, a peek at the back screen, and there you are.
Evidently, some can’t keep things simple.
Jan 22, 2019 20:57:43 #
DeanS wrote:
I believe that if you have developed a solid understanding of the triangle, you can forget about all those spreadsheets, algorithms, etc, including all the markings on the lens itself, and with a couple test shots, you can produce satisfying photos. A couple twists here and there, a peek at the back screen, and there you are.
Dean, you're being way too logical! You probably think photography should be about taking pictures! Come on, get with it! Throw away your camera and get some math books, that's where the real fun is! 😕
Jan 22, 2019 21:08:03 #
srt101fan wrote:
Dean, you're being way too logical! You probably think photography should be about taking pictures! Come on, get with it! Throw away your camera and get some math books, that's where the real fun is! 😕
Hey, srt, guess I just don’t understand that ghotograffy is all about the bits and bytes of the equip rather than about what comes out after you push the little button. That little button, btw, is technically called the “shutter release actuator” or some such. Maybe someone with a high level of technical understanding will post a correction I am capable of understanding. 🤠🤠🤠
Jan 22, 2019 21:15:35 #
DeanS wrote:
Hey, srt, guess I just don’t understand that ghotograffy is all about the bits and bytes of the equip rather than about what comes out after you push the little button. That little button, btw, is technically called the “shutter release actuator” or some such. Maybe someone with a high level of technical understanding will post a correction I am capable of understanding. 🤠🤠🤠
Correction - It is the Picture Taking Button.
If they were labeled that way photography wouldn't be so confusing.
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Jan 22, 2019 21:16:34 #
DeanS wrote:
Hey, srt, guess I just don’t understand that ghotograffy is all about the bits and bytes of the equip rather than about what comes out after you push the little button. That little button, btw, is technically called the “shutter release actuator” or some such. Maybe someone with a high level of technical understanding will post a correction I am capable of understanding. 🤠🤠🤠
😊Jan 22, 2019 21:24:13 #
It was easy way back in the early 60s. I had a Voigtlander Vito CL. It had a ”coupled”exposure meter with two needles that you had to cover each other for a good exposure. If you changed the shutter speed one pointer/needle would move and you had to turn the aperture ring to make the pointers cover each other. I didn’t know anything at all about aperture value and didn’t need to understand...I just had to match the pointers. The first film I took turned out to be pretty good. I noticed that a few pictures with moving subjects were blurry, and others didn’t have the DOF I wanted. After analyzing the settings, which I had taken notes of, I learned. Greater DOF use a higher aperture number, blurry ,moving subjects..use a shorter shutter time. It took me one roll of film to learn this!
I became interested in the meaning of the aperture numbers and purchased a book, The Amateur Photographer, and read it a couple of times.
In my opinion, this is the way you learn exposure...Try and error with an old film camera. I understand schools who teach photography want the students to use film cameras,and I totally agree.
I became interested in the meaning of the aperture numbers and purchased a book, The Amateur Photographer, and read it a couple of times.
In my opinion, this is the way you learn exposure...Try and error with an old film camera. I understand schools who teach photography want the students to use film cameras,and I totally agree.
Jan 22, 2019 21:32:48 #
Bill_de wrote:
Correction - It is the Picture Taking Button.
If they were labeled that way photography wouldn't be so confusing.
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If they were labeled that way photography wouldn't be so confusing.
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I knew an “expurt” would come along and educate me. Thanks, Bill!
Jan 22, 2019 21:35:44 #
Jan 22, 2019 21:56:51 #
That's so funny and you are correct about the battery being incorrect (probably no longer manufactured) Hilarious.....I too have several vintage metering systems and have discovered the inconsistencies between them and it was then & there that I realized it was all insignifigant and all relative at the same time. I recall the old GUIDE NUMBERS System we used to set-up in order to calibrate a flash unit to a specific camera from scratch.
And after that realization, I no longer worried about the math or accuracy of a numbers system where calibration was king....rather I calibrated to My Standard and not the Ansi People's Dogmas because I would decide what was correct exposure and I would set my saturation levels and not some else's idea for it. I was the designer of y own making and it felt good to be free of convention and all the anal behavior that comes with it.
Photography should be fun & easy and not constrained or difficult and we should be kind to each other and help one another with the journey ahead. Thanks Again.
jimbo
And after that realization, I no longer worried about the math or accuracy of a numbers system where calibration was king....rather I calibrated to My Standard and not the Ansi People's Dogmas because I would decide what was correct exposure and I would set my saturation levels and not some else's idea for it. I was the designer of y own making and it felt good to be free of convention and all the anal behavior that comes with it.
Photography should be fun & easy and not constrained or difficult and we should be kind to each other and help one another with the journey ahead. Thanks Again.
jimbo
Jan 23, 2019 00:42:44 #
tdekany wrote:
Why not take your own advice and just ignore my posts?
That is a good question. It was not an easy decision. If we don't respond to personal attacks and bullying, that becomes the controlling factor in discussions and people are intimidated and run off. If we do respond, we run the risk of adding fuel to the fire. I don't know the answer.
Initially I suggested that you "give it a rest" - that you stop responding to every post by Bipod with inflammatory and insulting jibes. Your response was to insult and attack me. I would certainly be happy to call a truce. How about you stop attacking Bipod and I will stop objecting to that? Fair enough?
Mike
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