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Dec 29, 2018 15:07:59   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Rose42 wrote:
It does and the point is actually pretty simple. You just don't like it.


TWARD isn’t very capable at following a conversation more complex then “lunch...soup....good!”

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Dec 29, 2018 15:09:43   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Then wouldn’t it possibly have gone to aid Netanyahu’s opponent? If it went to Liberal causes then as a Conservative I am still pissed. I don’t pay taxes to support Liberal causes, especially in another country, even if it is a friendly country. I would also be pissed if the money went to support Netanyahu. That money should have stayed in America.

Dennis


Plus the U.S. interference in the Israeli election was well documented at the time. After all, since Google received a whole $4200 to influence OUR election, imagine how much was done with $350,000!

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Dec 29, 2018 15:27:05   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
wilpharm wrote:
you are a pointless old fool...we are suffering beause of it...get help


Denial is destructive.

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Dec 29, 2018 15:33:31   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Yes.....the best spent $4200 in the history of the world as he was able to woe bazillions of low I.Q. Dems to change their vote (according to you idiots).


The word you mean is “woo.”

Russia spend a million and a half dollars a Month! And your hatred of Hillary was honed and caressed—manipulated! actually—by Putin, and you carry his efforts within you even today.

Actually, it wasn’t democrats who done it, but older white men whose future had left them behind, without hope, and without gumption to improve themselves.

And it wasn’t ‘millions,’ but about 70,000 carefully chosen, manipulated and led, voting to the detriment of our nation.

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Dec 29, 2018 15:36:37   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Cykdelic wrote:
TWARD isn’t very capable at following a conversation more complex then “lunch...soup....good!”


Well, I know the word is “woo,” and I know who voted for trump, and I know how many it took and where they lived and how they were manipulated, and I know you and yours are faithful servants of Vladimir Putin, to the dis-service of our nation.

How you like them apples?

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Dec 29, 2018 15:46:51   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Twardlow wrote:
Dennis, let me say without name-calling or hatred, please go the hell away!


Let me say as honestly as I possibly can. I am not going anywhere. I love The Attic and love seeing you and yours do nothing for the past two years but project that Trump has/will screw up, be prosecuted and put in prison, impeached, assassinated (according to some of your corrupt Liberal Democratic friends such as Maxine Waters). No my BFF you are stuck with me.

I know you have tried talking to me, trying to get me to adopt your Liberal thinking, your idiotic ways of being anti America. But, thank God I am a Conservative by nature having been born with common sense and a sense of honesty. You, my friend lack both. You don't think. You react. You see little kids at the border crying and really believe they are being tortured on purpose by our fine border patrol officers. Yet if you were to think honestly you would see the exact same thing every day at pre schools and first day of school all over America, if not the entire planet. Kids cry. They get over it. They cry without a hand being placed upon them. They cry due to hunger, diaper filled or wet. They cry. Get over it.

When Obama tried bringing Cuba into the fold you Liberals cheered at his intentions. But Cuba basically told him to F-off. They were not going to change for him or anybody else. But when President Trump attempted to open negotiations with North Korea, which is going pretty well by the way, you on the Left berated him and still do. Even though Trump has told us it will be a long road and he is taking it slow, you all project that bombs will be dropping soon on America. But instead Nk and Sk are in negotiations for ending the Korean War, for opening up trade, for just plain getting along. Yes, NK is still apparently building missile sites but I have not heard of them firing a test missile for some time now. NK has released some or our military dead which is a first, thanks to President Trump. Yes it is slow going but there is progress. Yet you can't give him a break and wish him well on that accomplishment, or for even trying to open negotiations with NK. Trump has still gone farther toward those negotiations than any other President in history.

I am not going to list any more accomplishments as I and others have listed them in the past. The problem with you on the Left is that, plain and simple, you are suffering from TDS and like children, you refuse to even acknowledge the good that Trump is doing. Hopefully that will your downfall as more and more people in America come to realize you are not trying to help America but your own corrupt party.

But the GOOD NEWS for you is that I will always be right here in The Attic to guide you along the path of goodness. Lucky you.

Dennis

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Dec 29, 2018 15:54:55   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Twardlow wrote:
The word you mean is “woo.”

Russia spend a million and a half dollars a Month! And your hatred of Hillary was honed and caressed—manipulated! actually—by Putin, and you carry his efforts within you even today.

Actually, it wasn’t democrats who done it, but older white men whose future had left them behind, without hope, and without gumption to improve themselves.

And it wasn’t ‘millions,’ but about 70,000 carefully chosen, manipulated and led, voting to the detriment of our nation.
The word you mean is “woo.” br br Russia spend a ... (show quote)


The Conservatives hatred of Hillary has been carefully honed over decades of seeing her corruption first hand in American politics, from her hatred of the women who her husband sexually assaulted and raped to her doing absolutely nothing as a NY Senator. As Secretary of State she reached her zenith of corruption as she somehow lost 6 Billion dollars (don't Liberals even care what happened to that money), approved and was most likely part of selling uranium to the Russians, (yes I know it was Canadian uranium and nine other people had to approve it as well, blah blah blah), Hillary lied about Benghazi, as did Obama and Susan Rice. According to Comey she did lie, delete emails and did pass classified documents.

Yes, Hillary did all of this and more over a decades long period without receiving so much a slap on the wrist. You Liberals are proud of her corrupt lying behavior. That is because you support that type of behavior. But Hillary earned every bit of hatred she receives.

Dennis

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Dec 29, 2018 16:24:10   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Let me say as honestly as I possibly can. I am not going anywhere. I love The Attic and love seeing you and yours do nothing for the past two years but project that Trump has/will screw up, be prosecuted and put in prison, impeached, assassinated (according to some of your corrupt Liberal Democratic friends such as Maxine Waters). No my BFF you are stuck with me.

I know you have tried talking to me, trying to get me to adopt your Liberal thinking, your idiotic ways of being anti America. But, thank God I am a Conservative by nature having been born with common sense and a sense of honesty. You, my friend lack both. You don't think. You react. You see little kids at the border crying and really believe they are being tortured on purpose by our fine border patrol officers. Yet if you were to think honestly you would see the exact same thing every day at pre schools and first day of school all over America, if not the entire planet. Kids cry. They get over it. They cry without a hand being placed upon them. They cry due to hunger, diaper filled or wet. They cry. Get over it.

When Obama tried bringing Cuba into the fold you Liberals cheered at his intentions. But Cuba basically told him to F-off. They were not going to change for him or anybody else. But when President Trump attempted to open negotiations with North Korea, which is going pretty well by the way, you on the Left berated him and still do. Even though Trump has told us it will be a long road and he is taking it slow, you all project that bombs will be dropping soon on America. But instead Nk and Sk are in negotiations for ending the Korean War, for opening up trade, for just plain getting along. Yes, NK is still apparently building missile sites but I have not heard of them firing a test missile for some time now. NK has released some or our military dead which is a first, thanks to President Trump. Yes it is slow going but there is progress. Yet you can't give him a break and wish him well on that accomplishment, or for even trying to open negotiations with NK. Trump has still gone farther toward those negotiations than any other President in history.

I am not going to list any more accomplishments as I and others have listed them in the past. The problem with you on the Left is that, plain and simple, you are suffering from TDS and like children, you refuse to even acknowledge the good that Trump is doing. Hopefully that will your downfall as more and more people in America come to realize you are not trying to help America but your own corrupt party.

But the GOOD NEWS for you is that I will always be right here in The Attic to guide you along the path of goodness. Lucky you.

Dennis
Let me say as honestly as I possibly can. I am no... (show quote)


I asked you nicely, please go away. BTW, I didn’t read this post.

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Dec 29, 2018 17:25:47   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Twardlow wrote:
I asked you nicely, please go away. BTW, I didn’t read this post.


What an ego you must have to expect me to go away just because you do not like my opinion. I don't like your opinion either but I have no problem with you voicing your opinion over and over. This is America where, because of the First Amendment to the Constitution, we all have a right to voice our opinion. In fact I still believe in the old saying that was popular when I was a kid, I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

You whiny Liberals of today don't hold for equal rights for all of us though. You now believe in what you call Hate Speech. Hate Speech would be anything spoken by anybody that you on the Left do not like, that goes against your Liberal agenda, that doesn't fit your canned viewpoint of what America should be or how it should be run with regard to politics. I still want free speech throughout America. You want free speech shut down everywhere but especially on college campuses. I want firearms to be available to those honest citizens who want them. I want those citizens to carry them if they so desire. Many on the Left don't even want our police officers to be armed these days. I want criminal illegal aliens to be instantly deported AFTER they have served their sentence, if tried and convicted, of any criminal action. You Liberals want them to be left alone right here in America where it is already illegal for them to be in America.

No Twardlow there are a lot of differences between us, politically. You are going to have to continue putting up with my ideas as long as you are here in The Attic with me. Suck it up buddy. It will only get easier if you open your mind to some common sense that has always ruled American thinking until Obama's reign of terror. I can see it all getting better now that Trump is POTUS. As I used to tell convicted felons, Sucks to be you.

Dennis

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Dec 29, 2018 20:02:46   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Yes.....the best spent $4200 in the history of the world as he was able to woe bazillions of low I.Q. Dems to change their vote (according to you idiots).


Nah just crooked Rwing congress

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Jan 13, 2019 22:04:24   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Twardlow wrote:
Opinion

Time for G.O.P. to Threaten to Fire Trump

Republican leaders need to mount an intervention.

By Thomas L. Friedman

December 24, 2018

Up to now I have not favored removing President Trump from office. I felt strongly that it would be best for the country that he leave the way he came in, through the ballot box. But last week was a watershed moment for me, and I think for many Americans, including some Republicans.

It was the moment when you had to ask whether we really can survive two more years of Trump as president, whether this man and his demented behavior — which will get only worse as the Mueller investigation concludes — are going to destabilize our country, our markets, our key institutions and, by extension, the world. And therefore his removal from office now has to be on the table.

I believe that the only responsible choice for the Republican Party today is an intervention with the president that makes clear that if there is not a radical change in how he conducts himself — and I think that is unlikely — the party’s leadership will have no choice but to press for his resignation or join calls for his impeachment.

It has to start with Republicans, given both the numbers needed in the Senate and political reality. Removing this president has to be an act of national unity as much as possible — otherwise it will tear the country apart even more. I know that such an action is very difficult for today’s G.O.P., but the time is long past for it to rise to confront this crisis of American leadership.

Trump’s behavior has become so erratic, his lying so persistent, his willingness to fulfill the basic functions of the presidency — like reading briefing books, consulting government experts before making major changes and appointing a competent staff — so absent, his readiness to accommodate Russia and spurn allies so disturbing and his obsession with himself and his ego over all other considerations so consistent, two more years of him in office could pose a real threat to our nation. Vice President Mike Pence could not possibly be worse.

The damage an out-of-control Trump can do goes well beyond our borders. America is the keystone of global stability. Our world is the way it is today — a place that, despite all its problems, still enjoys more peace and prosperity than at any time in history — because America is the way it is (or at least was). And that is a nation that at its best has always stood up for the universal values of freedom and human rights, has always paid extra to stabilize the global system from which we were the biggest beneficiary and has always nurtured and protected alliances with like-minded nations.

Donald Trump has proved time and again that he knows nothing of the history or importance of this America. That was made starkly clear in Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis’s resignation letter.

Trump is in the grip of a mad notion that the entire web of global institutions and alliances built after World War II — which, with all their imperfections, have provided the connective tissues that have created this unprecedented era of peace and prosperity — threatens American sovereignty and prosperity and that we are better off without them.

So Trump gloats at the troubles facing the European Union, urges Britain to exit and leaks that he’d consider quitting NATO. These are institutions that all need to be improved, but not scrapped. If America becomes a predator on all the treaties, multilateral institutions and alliances holding the world together; if America goes from being the world’s anchor of stability to an engine of instability; if America goes from a democracy built on the twin pillars of truth and trust to a country where it is acceptable for the president to attack truth and trust on a daily basis, watch out: Your kids won’t just grow up in a different America. They will grow up in a different world.

The last time America disengaged from the world remotely in this manner was in the 1930s, and you remember what followed: World War II.

You have no idea how quickly institutions like NATO and the E.U. and the World Trade Organization and just basic global norms — like thou shalt not kill and dismember a journalist in your own consulate — can unravel when America goes AWOL or haywire under a shameless isolated president.

But this is not just about the world, it’s about the minimum decorum and stability we expect from our president. If the C.E.O. of any public company in America behaved like Trump has over the past two years — constantly lying, tossing out aides like they were Kleenex, tweeting endlessly like a teenager, ignoring the advice of experts — he or she would have been fired by the board of directors long ago. Should we expect less for our president?

That’s what the financial markets are now asking. For the first two years of the Trump presidency the markets treated his dishonesty and craziness as background noise to all the soaring corporate profits and stocks. But that is no longer the case. Trump has markets worried.

The instability Trump is generating — including his attacks on the chairman of the Federal Reserve — is causing investors to wonder where the economic and geopolitical management will come from as the economy slows down. What if we’re plunged into an economic crisis and we have a president whose first instinct is always to blame others and who’s already purged from his side the most sober adults willing to tell him that his vaunted “gut instincts” have no grounding in economics or in law or in common sense. Mattis was the last one.

We are now left with the B team — all the people who were ready to take the jobs that Trump’s first team either resigned from — because they could not countenance his lying, chaos and ignorance — or were fired from for the same reasons.

I seriously doubt that any of these B-players would have been hired by any other administration. Not only do they not inspire confidence in a crisis, but they are all walking around knowing that Trump would stab every one of them in the back with his Twitter knife, at any moment, if it served him. This makes them even less effective.

Ah, we are told, but Trump is a different kind of president. “He’s a disrupter.” Well, I respect those who voted for Trump because they thought the system needed “a disrupter.” It did in some areas. I agree with Trump on the need to disrupt the status quo in U.S.-China trade relations, to rethink our presence in places like Syria and Afghanistan and to eliminate some choking regulations on business.

But too often Trump has given us disruption without any plan for what comes next. He has worked to destroy Obamacare with no plan for the morning after. He announced a pullout from Syria and Afghanistan without even consulting the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or the State Department’s top expert, let alone our allies.

People wanted disruption, but too often Trump has given us destruction, distraction, debasement and sheer ignorance.

And while, yes, we need disruption in some areas, we also desperately need innovation in others. How do we manage these giant social networks? How do we integrate artificial intelligence into every aspect of our society, as China is doing? How do we make lifelong learning available to every American? At a time when we need to be building bridges to the 21st century, all Trump can talk about is building a wall with Mexico — a political stunt to energize his base rather than the comprehensive immigration reform that we really need.

Indeed, Trump’s biggest disruption has been to undermine the norms and values we associate with a U.S. president and U.S. leadership. And now that Trump has freed himself of all restraints from within his White House staff, his cabinet and his party — so that “Trump can be Trump,” we are told — he is freer than ever to remake America in his image.

And what is that image? According to The Washington Post’s latest tally, Trump has made 7,546 false or misleading claims, an average of five a day, through Dec. 20, the 700th day of his term in office. And all that was supposedly before “we let Trump be Trump.”

If America starts to behave as a selfish, shameless, lying grifter like Trump, you simply cannot imagine how unstable — how disruptive — world markets and geopolitics may become.

We cannot afford to find out.


Thomas L. Friedman is the foreign affairs Op-Ed columnist. He joined the paper in 1981, and has won three Pulitzer Prizes. He is the author of seven books, including “From Beirut to Jerusalem,” which won the National Book Award.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/opinion/impeach-fire-president-trump.html?em_pos=large&emc=edit_ty_20181225&nl=opinion-today&nlid=2015481edit_ty_20181225&ref=headline&te=1A
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Tommie Friedman is nothing but a typical Blue State Brown Shirt. Explains why you drool when you see his BS.

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Jan 13, 2019 22:57:08   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Checkmate wrote:
Tommie Friedman is nothing but a typical Blue State Brown Shirt. Explains why you drool when you see his BS.


Are you still alive? I guess that may be a good thing, although I can't imagine how.

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Jan 14, 2019 00:10:01   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Checkmate wrote:
Tommie Friedman is nothing but a typical Blue State Brown Shirt. Explains why you drool when you see his BS.


This is from Wikipedia. I took out pronouncing guide and footnotes, as you wouldn’t understand them.

Get someone to help you with the big words.

“Thomas Loren Friedman born July 20, 1953) is an American activist for globalism and political commentator and author. He is a three-time Pulitzer Prize winner. Friedman currently writes a weekly column for The New York Times. He has written extensively on foreign affairs, global trade, the Middle East, globalization, and environmental issues.

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Friedman joined the London bureau of United Press International after completing his master's degree. He was dispatched a year later to Beirut, where he lived from June 1979 to May 1981 while covering the Lebanon Civil War. He was hired by The New York Times as a reporter in 1981 and re-dispatched to Beirut at the start of the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. His coverage of the war, particularly the Sabra and Shatila massacre, won him the Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting (shared with Loren Jenkins of The Washington Post). Alongside David K. Shipler[clarification needed] he also won the George Polk Award for foreign reporting.

In June 1984, Friedman was transferred to Jerusalem, where he served as the New York Times Jerusalem Bureau Chief until February 1988. That year he received a second Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting, which cited his coverage of the First Palestinian Intifada.[22] He wrote a book, From Beirut to Jerusalem, describing his experiences in the Middle East, which won the 1989 U.S. National Book Award for Nonfiction.

Friedman covered Secretary of State James Baker during the administration of President George H. W. Bush. Following the election of Bill Clinton in 1992, Friedman became the White House correspondent for the New York Times. In 1994, he began to write more about foreign policy and economics, and moved to the op-ed page of The New York Times the following year as a foreign affairs columnist. In 2002, Friedman won the Pulitzer Prize for Commentary for his "clarity of vision, based on extensive reporting, in commenting on the worldwide impact of the terrorist threat."

In February 2002, Friedman met Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah and encouraged him to make a comprehensive attempt to end the Arab–Israeli conflict by normalizing Arab relations with Israel in exchange for the return of refugees alongside an end to the Israel territorial occupations. Abdullah proposed the Arab Peace Initiative at the Beirut Summit that March, which Friedman has since strongly supported.

Friedman received the 2004 Overseas Press Club Award for lifetime achievement and the same year was named to the Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II.

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Jan 27, 2019 18:38:37   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Twardlow wrote:
Opinion

Time for G.O.P. to Threaten to Fire Trump

Republican leaders need to mount an intervention.

By Thomas L. Friedman

December 24, 2018

Up to now I have not favored removing President Trump from office. I felt strongly that it would be best for the country that he leave the way he came in, through the ballot box. But last week was a watershed moment for me, and I think for many Americans, including some Republicans.

It was the moment when you had to ask whether we really can survive two more years of Trump as president, whether this man and his demented behavior — which will get only worse as the Mueller investigation concludes — are going to destabilize our country, our markets, our key institutions and, by extension, the world. And therefore his removal from office now has to be on the table.

I believe that the only responsible choice for the Republican Party today is an intervention with the president that makes clear that if there is not a radical change in how he conducts himself — and I think that is unlikely — the party’s leadership will have no choice but to press for his resignation or join calls for his impeachment.

It has to start with Republicans, given both the numbers needed in the Senate and political reality. Removing this president has to be an act of national unity as much as possible — otherwise it will tear the country apart even more. I know that such an action is very difficult for today’s G.O.P., but the time is long past for it to rise to confront this crisis of American leadership.

Trump’s behavior has become so erratic, his lying so persistent, his willingness to fulfill the basic functions of the presidency — like reading briefing books, consulting government experts before making major changes and appointing a competent staff — so absent, his readiness to accommodate Russia and spurn allies so disturbing and his obsession with himself and his ego over all other considerations so consistent, two more years of him in office could pose a real threat to our nation. Vice President Mike Pence could not possibly be worse.

The damage an out-of-control Trump can do goes well beyond our borders. America is the keystone of global stability. Our world is the way it is today — a place that, despite all its problems, still enjoys more peace and prosperity than at any time in history — because America is the way it is (or at least was). And that is a nation that at its best has always stood up for the universal values of freedom and human rights, has always paid extra to stabilize the global system from which we were the biggest beneficiary and has always nurtured and protected alliances with like-minded nations.

Donald Trump has proved time and again that he knows nothing of the history or importance of this America. That was made starkly clear in Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis’s resignation letter.

Trump is in the grip of a mad notion that the entire web of global institutions and alliances built after World War II — which, with all their imperfections, have provided the connective tissues that have created this unprecedented era of peace and prosperity — threatens American sovereignty and prosperity and that we are better off without them.

So Trump gloats at the troubles facing the European Union, urges Britain to exit and leaks that he’d consider quitting NATO. These are institutions that all need to be improved, but not scrapped. If America becomes a predator on all the treaties, multilateral institutions and alliances holding the world together; if America goes from being the world’s anchor of stability to an engine of instability; if America goes from a democracy built on the twin pillars of truth and trust to a country where it is acceptable for the president to attack truth and trust on a daily basis, watch out: Your kids won’t just grow up in a different America. They will grow up in a different world.

The last time America disengaged from the world remotely in this manner was in the 1930s, and you remember what followed: World War II.

You have no idea how quickly institutions like NATO and the E.U. and the World Trade Organization and just basic global norms — like thou shalt not kill and dismember a journalist in your own consulate — can unravel when America goes AWOL or haywire under a shameless isolated president.

But this is not just about the world, it’s about the minimum decorum and stability we expect from our president. If the C.E.O. of any public company in America behaved like Trump has over the past two years — constantly lying, tossing out aides like they were Kleenex, tweeting endlessly like a teenager, ignoring the advice of experts — he or she would have been fired by the board of directors long ago. Should we expect less for our president?

That’s what the financial markets are now asking. For the first two years of the Trump presidency the markets treated his dishonesty and craziness as background noise to all the soaring corporate profits and stocks. But that is no longer the case. Trump has markets worried.

The instability Trump is generating — including his attacks on the chairman of the Federal Reserve — is causing investors to wonder where the economic and geopolitical management will come from as the economy slows down. What if we’re plunged into an economic crisis and we have a president whose first instinct is always to blame others and who’s already purged from his side the most sober adults willing to tell him that his vaunted “gut instincts” have no grounding in economics or in law or in common sense. Mattis was the last one.

We are now left with the B team — all the people who were ready to take the jobs that Trump’s first team either resigned from — because they could not countenance his lying, chaos and ignorance — or were fired from for the same reasons.

I seriously doubt that any of these B-players would have been hired by any other administration. Not only do they not inspire confidence in a crisis, but they are all walking around knowing that Trump would stab every one of them in the back with his Twitter knife, at any moment, if it served him. This makes them even less effective.

Ah, we are told, but Trump is a different kind of president. “He’s a disrupter.” Well, I respect those who voted for Trump because they thought the system needed “a disrupter.” It did in some areas. I agree with Trump on the need to disrupt the status quo in U.S.-China trade relations, to rethink our presence in places like Syria and Afghanistan and to eliminate some choking regulations on business.

But too often Trump has given us disruption without any plan for what comes next. He has worked to destroy Obamacare with no plan for the morning after. He announced a pullout from Syria and Afghanistan without even consulting the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or the State Department’s top expert, let alone our allies.

People wanted disruption, but too often Trump has given us destruction, distraction, debasement and sheer ignorance.

And while, yes, we need disruption in some areas, we also desperately need innovation in others. How do we manage these giant social networks? How do we integrate artificial intelligence into every aspect of our society, as China is doing? How do we make lifelong learning available to every American? At a time when we need to be building bridges to the 21st century, all Trump can talk about is building a wall with Mexico — a political stunt to energize his base rather than the comprehensive immigration reform that we really need.

Indeed, Trump’s biggest disruption has been to undermine the norms and values we associate with a U.S. president and U.S. leadership. And now that Trump has freed himself of all restraints from within his White House staff, his cabinet and his party — so that “Trump can be Trump,” we are told — he is freer than ever to remake America in his image.

And what is that image? According to The Washington Post’s latest tally, Trump has made 7,546 false or misleading claims, an average of five a day, through Dec. 20, the 700th day of his term in office. And all that was supposedly before “we let Trump be Trump.”

If America starts to behave as a selfish, shameless, lying grifter like Trump, you simply cannot imagine how unstable — how disruptive — world markets and geopolitics may become.

We cannot afford to find out.


Thomas L. Friedman is the foreign affairs Op-Ed columnist. He joined the paper in 1981, and has won three Pulitzer Prizes. He is the author of seven books, including “From Beirut to Jerusalem,” which won the National Book Award.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/opinion/impeach-fire-president-trump.html?em_pos=large&emc=edit_ty_20181225&nl=opinion-today&nlid=2015481edit_ty_20181225&ref=headline&te=1A
Opinion br br b Time for G.O.P. to Threaten to F... (show quote)


Tommie Friedman is nothing but a typical Blue State Brown Shirt. Explains why you drool when you see his BS.

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Jan 27, 2019 18:49:05   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
boberic wrote:
This piece forgets 1 very important concept. You can't remove nor should you remove a president that you don't like. Nor like any of his policies. There needs to be a serious crime. Clinton was not removed from office despite iron clad proof the he comitted perjury.


You didn't pay attention to the piece. Make your case that Trump isn't a danger to our way of life if you believe that. Refute some of what Freidman says if you can. The most important reason there could be to remove a president is if he is a danger to the United States. Running the country is hard work that calls for using lots of knowledge and information. If as Freidman suggests, Trump is unwilling or unable to do this, don't you see it as a danger. This is not about not liking Trump. It is not about punishing Trump. It is about the survival of the country as we know it and maybe the world. We cannot have Irvin B. Corey running the country. Read Freidman thoroughly and refute what he says or explain why it doesn't matter.

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