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Jan 13, 2019 16:36:38   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Tell me how removing a whole class of murderers increases the murder rate?
The stupidity of this comment is beyond the pale.
Democrats will tell any fake lie (Like Goebbels did) tell it often enough and idiots will start to believe it.
Why don't you listen to the border patrol on this issue? Why don't you listen the the CA Sheriff on this issue?
Oh yes, CNN, MSNBC and the DNC have censored them.


Yup you should listen to those people yuh may learn

Hipefully

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Jan 13, 2019 16:43:31   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You seem to overlook the fact that the United States is my home. I simply dwell in a very small, legally owned portion thereof. The United States were my legally immigrated grandparents home, as well. Again, they simply dwelt in a very small part of that larger home. So, several thousand people stomping across the border are entering my home illegally.

But, let's look at your analogy. Most families I know have bedrooms assigned to members of the family. We commonly hear terms such as my parent's bedroom, Billy's bedroom, etc. So, by your declaration, if a person breaks into a home, and Billy is in his bedroom, things are OK with doing whatever the intruder wants as long as he doesn't enter Billy's bedroom. It that reasonable?
--Bob

EyeSawYou wrote:
If illegal immigrants inters your home uninvited, thats called an invasion.

Invasion- an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

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Jan 13, 2019 16:47:16   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I am totally surprised you can say that with supposedly a straight face when you tell us that the Left follows the law. Sanctuary cities are against the law. Basically these cities/states and the people who run them are assisting criminals; criminals because illegal aliens are not allowed to be in America at all and also assisting criminals because actual criminals, misdemeanor and felony violations, are released back into American society. People with a lick of common sense do not want criminals among the population but that doesn't stop the Gavin Newsome's, Pelosi's, Schumer, Rahm Emmanuel and so on from preaching that those people will be safe in America. What they don't tell us is that it is the American people who will not be safe.

There is a law stating that American companies are prohibited from hiring illegal aliens, anyone not in America legally. Yet companies routinely hire illegal aliens. People as well hire illegal aliens as well. You see there are specific laws that make it illegal for these aliens to be here yet Democrats, right now you are at the forefront for those same Democrats, do nothing about enforcing those laws. The Left half of Congress swore the same oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution that the Right half did. Yet the Left is doing nothing about enforcing immigration laws. You can tell us over and over that Democrats follow the law but in fact, their actions prove they do not. Their actions of sanctuary cities, free education, come to America, we welcome you, proves they do not go by the written law. Now what the hell were you telling us???

Come on Twardlow. Don't continue giving me the same old crap you always do. I have no intention of being quiet just so you can preach your lying anti American crap to the rest of the people right here on the forum. They know you are lying just as I do. I plan to repress nothing at all just to suit you.

Horse crap indeed. You tell us that Democrats don't break the law and expect us to believe it while every day they insist on now following the law. You should take your comedy show on the road. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

Dennis
I am totally surprised you can say that with suppo... (show quote)


Well put.

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Jan 13, 2019 16:51:56   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
rmalarz wrote:
You seem to overlook the fact that the United States is my home. I simply dwell in a very small, legally owned portion thereof. The United States were my legally immigrated grandparents home, as well. Again, they simply dwelt in a very small part of that larger home. So, several thousand people stomping across the border are entering my home illegally.

But, let's look at your analogy. Most families I know have bedrooms assigned to members of the family. We commonly hear terms such as my parent's bedroom, Billy's bedroom, etc. So, by your declaration, if a person breaks into a home, and Billy is in his bedroom, things are OK with doing whatever the intruder wants as long as he doesn't enter Billy's bedroom. It that reasonable?
--Bob
You seem to overlook the fact that the United Stat... (show quote)


Lol it has also been said outlaws are not suppose have guns

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Jan 13, 2019 17:21:53   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Twardlow wrote:
My point is, if you resent murders and their totals, the undocumented are not the villains, but the native-born Americans are—their murder rate is twice the undocumented, and the documented, i.e. legal immigrant’s, murder rates is even lower than the undocumented.

That’s if you wish to reduce the numbers of murders in this country.

If your concern is the undocumented even in the face of their lower murder rate, then there must be something else that alarms you. And since the rate of the undocumented crossing the border illegally has fallen for the last decade, and you didn’t call it an invasion even then, something else must offend you—and that is Trump’s rampant racism has enflamed you into racism, too.

There is no other explanation.

Nothing justifies the deaths of loved ones or of hated ones, but the perpetrators of needless deaths, the root of the needless death problem, even without justification, is simply native-born Americans.

I’m not aware that Obama ever called Chicago a utopia, certainly he must realize more than most—he was a community organizer, remember—that Chicago is a dangerous place (not the most dangerous in the US, however; your hatred drives you to a false statistic there). And likewise, you would have to prove your assumption or assertation that Democratic politics is the cause of all the murders.

So, you are left in confusion on several levels of your post. Your racism and your “Chicagois” leave you rather high and dry.

Try again.

BTW, Chicago is #25 on the list of most murderous cities in the US, with a rate of 17.52 murders per 100,000 residents; St. Louis is supreme with a murder rate of 59.29 per 100,000 citizens, wildly beyond your favorite.

Misinformed yet again.
My point is, if you resent murders and their total... (show quote)


Your very first line in your last post, saying illegals who commit murder are not the villiains? Oh my God! If that is how you feel then you are just a culpable as those that commit the murders. You hate Trump so much your values have been corrupted. I do feel sorry for you but there is no point in content this conversation.

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Jan 13, 2019 17:24:40   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Tell me how removing a whole class of murderers increases the murder rate?
The stupidity of this comment is beyond the pale.
Democrats will tell any fake lie (Like Goebbels did) tell it often enough and idiots will start to believe it.
Why don't you listen to the border patrol on this issue? Why don't you listen the the CA Sheriff on this issue?
Oh yes, CNN, MSNBC and the DNC have censored them.


Struggle with math in school? (rates and counts are two different things)

It's a pretty cold day in hell when I agree with Wardlow, but he has you on this one.

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Jan 13, 2019 17:35:19   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
papakatz45 wrote:
Your very first line in your last post, saying illegals who commit murder are not the villiains? Oh my God! If that is how you feel then you are just a culpable as those that commit the murders. You hate Trump so much your values have been corrupted. I do feel sorry for you but there is no point in content this conversation.


Sorry, you seem to be suffering from delusion.

Take an aspirin, perhaps a strong drink, lie down and avoid excitement.

Perhaps it will pass.

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Jan 13, 2019 17:43:01   #
EyeSawYou
 
rmalarz wrote:
You seem to overlook the fact that the United States is my home. I simply dwell in a very small, legally owned portion thereof. The United States were my legally immigrated grandparents home, as well. Again, they simply dwelt in a very small part of that larger home. So, several thousand people stomping across the border are entering my home illegally.

But, let's look at your analogy. Most families I know have bedrooms assigned to members of the family. We commonly hear terms such as my parent's bedroom, Billy's bedroom, etc. So, by your declaration, if a person breaks into a home, and Billy is in his bedroom, things are OK with doing whatever the intruder wants as long as he doesn't enter Billy's bedroom. It that reasonable?
--Bob
You seem to overlook the fact that the United Stat... (show quote)


Excuse me? Please re-read my entry.

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Jan 13, 2019 17:44:22   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
mwalsh wrote:
Struggle with math in school? (rates and counts are two different things)

It's a pretty cold day in hell when I agree with Wardlow, but he has you on this one.


Not in the least.
It is just bogus lib double talk.
If there are 150 deaths and it goes to 100 deaths by getting rid of illegals there are fewer deaths period.
We don't need to play the idiot games with terms and sophistry as lib clowns do when they are losing the real argument.
I win you lose. Try again.
Tell those 50 who were not killed that they don't count.


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Jan 13, 2019 18:05:40   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Twardlow wrote:
Sorry, you seem to be suffering from delusion.

Take an aspirin, perhaps a strong drink, lie down and avoid excitement.

Perhaps it will pass.


Are you denying what you wrote? It is easy enough to go back and read. You said illegals who commit murder are not evil. True or false? So which is it? Or will you try to deflect and change the subject of maybe call me names? A favorite tactic from your group. We await your answer.

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Jan 13, 2019 18:11:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
papakatz45 wrote:
Are you denying what you wrote? It is easy enough to go back and read. You said illegals who commit murder are not evil. True or false? So which is it? Or will you try to deflect and change the subject of maybe call me names? A favorite tactic from your group. We await your answer.


That is exactly what they are saying.
When busted they change their tune and use all kinds of semantics to change the discussion.
They cannot be honest because it does not fit the hate America, no wall and illegals are the best most law abiding people in the USA DNC/MSNBC/CNN narrative.

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Jan 13, 2019 18:27:44   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
papakatz45 wrote:
Are you denying what you wrote? It is easy enough to go back and read. You said illegals who commit murder are not evil. True or false? So which is it? Or will you try to deflect and change the subject of maybe call me names? A favorite tactic from your group. We await your answer.


Lol you missed the boat again

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Jan 13, 2019 18:27:57   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Architect1776 wrote:
That is exactly what they are saying.
When busted they change their tune and use all kinds of semantics to change the discussion.
They cannot be honest because it does not fit the hate America, no wall and illegals are the best most law abiding people in the USA DNC/MSNBC/CNN narrative.


Yea, I see he hasn't responded yet.

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Jan 13, 2019 18:28:35   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Architect1776 wrote:
That is exactly what they are saying.
When busted they change their tune and use all kinds of semantics to change the discussion.
They cannot be honest because it does not fit the hate America, no wall and illegals are the best most law abiding people in the USA DNC/MSNBC/CNN narrative.


An wingers never respond again when they get busted

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Jan 13, 2019 18:29:09   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Lol you missed the boat again


How did I miss the boat? Read his post dumb-ass. That is exactly what he said. You can read can't you.

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