Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

You and Arch are beyond help.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Here’s a solution to cut murder in the Us by almost exactly half, and allow you to sleep more soundly at night.

And I quote:

Homicide. According to a 2013 report by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), between 2005 and 2012, the average homicide rate in the U.S. was 4.9 per 100,000 inhabitants compared to the average rate globally, which was 6.2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States


"The criminal conviction and arrest rates for immigrants were well below those of native-born Americans," Cato's Alex Nowrasteh wrote.

According to the libertarian think tank's analysis, the rate per 100,000 residents in each subpopulation was 899 for undocumented immigrants, 611 for legal immigrants and 1,797 for native-born Americans.

So (not quoting now) the easiest way to reduce murder in this country would be to expel native born Americans, and solicit the migration of undocumented immigrants.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/immigrants-crime-numbers/index.html

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Hear, hear!!!

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

I am all for that.

johnst1001a Loc: West Chester, Ohio

Granting asylum to famalies fleeing terror and starvation is no an invasion, and these individuals are protected by international laws. Remember (those coming from England) were also fle4eing Terrible things going on in Europe such as religious oppression. The were in essence asylum seekers an dto put it you terms invaders of th the American indian land.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

When are you going to start growing?

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

Arriving at legal ports of entry and following the legal process is the correct way. Illegally crossing the border is not. What is so hard for you to understand?

mwalsh Loc: Houston

How does one help caricatures?

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

I think actually Pelosi & Schemer could give a shit one way or the other about the wall...They just want to destroy Trump..

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Isn't just saving one life from illegals worth it. What if it was one of your children would the security of the wall have been worth it?
If not which child do you select to die because you personally disagreed with a wall and border security and what will you tell the dead child's mother and siblings that it was worth their death to prevent a win for America and the President.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

The murder rate of the undocumented is almost exactly one-half of the murder rate of native-born Americans.

So, if you want to save your son’s life, or your daughter’s life, the place to start would be to expel the native-born and seek the undocumented to replace them—cut murder rate in half.

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

No, the place to start is with illegals. By definition, illegal is breaking the law. Get rid of illegals and the overall murder rate goes down .

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Sorry, you are just wrong on that, Totally, completely, and enthusiastically wrong.

The illegal breaking the law is one thing. But if you get rid of him, the murder rate goes up.

His low numbers and the even lower numbers of the legal keep the US rate low. Lost\e either or both of those groups and the native-born American rate rules, and it is twice the undocumented rate.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

And your point?
That 50%would be alive today if it weren't for democrats like you saying such asinine things. Or is it ok for those to die just to make a point. Please tell those families the silly statistic you just quoted to justify the deaths of their loved ones from illegals.
Ps secondly obummer's utopia city Chicago has more murders in that democrat controlled city each week than we have combat deaths all around the world. I guess that is ok too seeing as democrats 100% control that city.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

My point is, if you resent murders and their totals, the undocumented are not the villains, but the native-born Americans are—their murder rate is twice the undocumented, and the documented, i.e. legal immigrant’s, murder rates is even lower than the undocumented.

That’s if you wish to reduce the numbers of murders in this country.

If your concern is the undocumented even in the face of their lower murder rate, then there must be something else that alarms you. And since the rate of the undocumented crossing the border illegally has fallen for the last decade, and you didn’t call it an invasion even then, something else must offend you—and that is Trump’s rampant racism has enflamed you into racism, too.

There is no other explanation.

Nothing justifies the deaths of loved ones or of hated ones, but the perpetrators of needless deaths, the root of the needless death problem, even without justification, is simply native-born Americans.

I’m not aware that Obama ever called Chicago a utopia, certainly he must realize more than most—he was a community organizer, remember—that Chicago is a dangerous place (not the most dangerous in the US, however; your hatred drives you to a false statistic there). And likewise, you would have to prove your assumption or assertation that Democratic politics is the cause of all the murders.

So, you are left in confusion on several levels of your post. Your racism and your “Chicagois” leave you rather high and dry.

Try again.

BTW, Chicago is #25 on the list of most murderous cities in the US, with a rate of 17.52 murders per 100,000 residents; St. Louis is supreme with a murder rate of 59.29 per 100,000 citizens, wildly beyond your favorite.

Misinformed yet again.