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Jan 13, 2019 09:26:53   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The potential charge of TREASON should NOT be plead out, trump should stand trial and serve jail time for the charge of treason!

The Watergate investigation proved that a sitting president can be indicted.

trump made the choice to work for Putin instead of his own country.

There are 5 trump family members that are facing Federal Criminal Charges, Don Sr., Don Jr., Ivanka, Eric and Jared face charges for Self Dealing, Tax Evasion, Lying to Congress, and daddy is facing charges of Obstruction of Justice, failing to register as a Foreign Agent, and Treason.

Those GOP members in Congress from 2017 on, who covered up trump's crimes by refusing to investigate him should also be charged with Obstruction of Justice! They were complicit in a major cover-up of trump's TREASON!

As Americans, we can no longer ignore the evidence that has come to light through the release of court documents, or through in depth investigate reporting. This is no longer fake news as trump and his base choose to label it!

It's been 238 years and 4 months since Benedict Arnold was discovered to be a traitor, when he chose to turn his back on his country and work for our enemy at the time, England.
The potential charge of b TREASON /b should NOT ... (show quote)



I don’t disagree with anything you say except this:

“The Watergate investigation proved that a sitting president can be indicted.”

Watergate didn’t prove that, and it is still an open question.

However, if Trump is indicted, I would be ecstatic!

It has been extremely clear for two years and more, that something smelly is going on between Trump and Putin. During the campaigns and after there were 20 or 30 secret meetings variously around the world in secret, then found out, then finally admitted, between representatives of Russia and of Trump. Furthermore, Trump advocates everything that Putin dreams of and lusts for.

Russia has taken over the USA, at least in foreign policy (which is all Putin cares about) in a sort of revolution by election!

We are living through an administration of unparalleled corruption, incompetence, dishonesty, lies and bullshit!

Do I remember that Traitors are sometimes hanged, or is that only a fervent wish?

May the Fates preserve us, though if they don’t it will be our own damned fault!

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Jan 13, 2019 09:32:36   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
jcboy3 wrote:
I do hope that, if there is enough evidence, the Trump family gets indicted. They get no protection from Justice Department policy.

I also hope there is enough evidence to indict Pence, as well. If Trump leaves, Pence ascends and probably pardons the whole mess. Pence and Trump go out together; then Pelosi takes over and no one gets pardoned.

That's a scenario that may keep Republicans from action. The whole mess keeps rotting, and 2020 turns into a huge loss for Republicans. Can we put up with 2 more years of this disaster?

Of course, states can investigate and indict for state crimes (like tax fraud). New York seems willing to take these crooks on.
I do hope that, if there is enough evidence, the T... (show quote)


Probably what will happen is the Spiro Agnes/Richard Nixon model, admission of guilt of a single crime and resignation. Trump will sign to save his own ass, but I think saving his daughter’s too will be important to him.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Republican Party. Trump is correctly not a Republican, not even a conservative, but the Party bought off on him, tainted themselves standing behind his every act and crime, and I hope voters are not generous in forgiveness.

We may see the birth of a new party, or such reorganization as amounts to ‘another’ party. There is a lot of corrupt dead wood to remove.

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Jan 13, 2019 09:32:44   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Twardlow wrote:
I don’t disagree with anything you say except this:

“The Watergate investigation proved that a sitting president can be indicted.”

Watergate didn’t prove that, and it is still an open question.

However, if Trump is indicted, I would be ecstatic!

It has been extremely clear for two years and more, that something smelly is going on between Trump and Putin. During the campaigns and after there were 20 or 30 secret meetings variously around the world in secret, then found out, then finally admitted, between representatives of Russia and of Trump. Furthermore, Trump advocates everything that Putin dreams of and lusts for.

Russia has taken over the USA, at least in foreign policy (which is all Putin cares about) in a sort of revolution by election!

We are living through an administration of unparalleled corruption, incompetence, dishonesty, lies and bullshit!

Do I remember that Traitors are sometimes hanged, or is that only a fervent wish?

May the Fates preserve us, though if they don’t it will be our own damned fault!
I don’t disagree with anything you say except this... (show quote)


So easy to see and yet 38% of the population are as blind as bats, go figure.

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Jan 13, 2019 09:36:50   #
jcboy3
 
Kraken wrote:
So easy to see and yet 38% of the population are as blind as bats, go figure.


There appears to be a lot more incest going on than we thought.

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Jan 13, 2019 10:05:56   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Twardlow wrote:
Why don’t you just quit replying. I know your meager efforts are taxing to you and such nothingness must tire you, not to say embarrass you, and it’s a bother for me skipping over your effort whenever you post.

Admit vacuity and refrain—ask someone to explain that to you.

I look forward to not hearing from you.....


and we look forward to your handler stopping your daily drivel...are you real??

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Jan 13, 2019 10:27:54   #
jcboy3
 
wilpharm wrote:
and we look forward to your handler stopping your daily drivel...are you real??


Not going to happen. You need a better dream board.

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Jan 13, 2019 10:29:19   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Not going to happen. You need a better dream board.


unfortunately you are probably right about twatsie..HE needs a new handler..he is now BEYOND pre-altzheimers..

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Jan 13, 2019 10:30:41   #
jcboy3
 
wilpharm wrote:
unfortunately you are probably right about twatsie..HE needs a new handler..he is now BEYOND pre-altzheimers..


Let me help you here. I was replying to your post.

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Jan 13, 2019 10:34:30   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Let me help you here. I was replying to your post.

dont need any help from liberal pukes

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Jan 13, 2019 10:56:17   #
jcboy3
 
wilpharm wrote:
dont need any help from liberal pukes


On to the insults. As expected. When you don't have a case, call people names.

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Jan 13, 2019 10:57:40   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
LWW wrote:
Trolledlow has been sooonfed his “opinion” so you have to expect him to regurgitate it on demand.


You would love me being spoonfed as it would absolve you and your responsibility in the issue, but too many facts intercede for you to escape.

Remember trump advocating Putin’s foreign policy, the attack on NATO, the attack of G-7, the rationalization of Russia’s attacks in Ukraine, of Russia’s game in the Middle East, of US leaving Syria, of Trump’s acceptance of Saudi’s murder of an American Journalist (not a citizen, still living in America) of trump agreeing to negotiate with South Korea, and the eventually denuclearization of the peninsula and withdrawing of US troops and protection, and on and on—each and every one fitting Putin’s dreams and instructions.

Trump is Putin’s wet dream, his American voice and vision, his ‘fixer,’ and something unbelievable prior to this—the taking over of a Nation’s Foreign Policy by corrupt but peaceful election.

Damn!

And you, my dishonest friend, back each and every trump move, aiding the kidnapping of the nation’s foreign policy; I hope Putin pays you well.

Remember, sometime public opinion turns abruptly, and in can be a vicious tyrant of its own; many citizens against our revolution were forced to move to England after things settled down. Feel like moving to Russia?

Keep your options open.

For others reading these posts, let me suggest the mature thing to do in a controversy is to read the facts as they exist, and form your opinions from them, instead of twisting facts to match your native leaning towards conservatism or liberalism; reality is a tough teacher, but she’s a stern master, and she always wins in the end.

Fighting her is useless, but recognizing her eases the mind, rests the soul, and leads to peace and stability.

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Jan 13, 2019 12:07:53   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
jcboy3 wrote:
On to the insults. As expected. When you don't have a case, call people names.


that kinda makes you the ULTIMATE hypocrite, doesn't it?? because you have zero, zilch, nada case..

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Jan 13, 2019 13:03:43   #
jcboy3
 
wilpharm wrote:
that kinda makes you the ULTIMATE hypocrite, doesn't it?? because you have zero, zilch, nada case..


No, because I don't go on to tossing insults. But there you are.

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Jan 13, 2019 13:31:47   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
jcboy3 wrote:
No, because I don't go on to tossing insults. But there you are.


you don't.....????? maybe you should reread some of your bullshit...But there you are.

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Jan 13, 2019 13:35:10   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Twardlow wrote:
I don’t disagree with anything you say except this:

“The Watergate investigation proved that a sitting president can be indicted.”

Watergate didn’t prove that, and it is still an open question.

However, if Trump is indicted, I would be ecstatic!

It has been extremely clear for two years and more, that something smelly is going on between Trump and Putin. During the campaigns and after there were 20 or 30 secret meetings variously around the world in secret, then found out, then finally admitted, between representatives of Russia and of Trump. Furthermore, Trump advocates everything that Putin dreams of and lusts for.

Russia has taken over the USA, at least in foreign policy (which is all Putin cares about) in a sort of revolution by election!

We are living through an administration of unparalleled corruption, incompetence, dishonesty, lies and bullshit!

Do I remember that Traitors are sometimes hanged, or is that only a fervent wish?

May the Fates preserve us, though if they don’t it will be our own damned fault!
I don’t disagree with anything you say except this... (show quote)

Actually Nixon was indicted, but it was under seal.

The Nixon Indictment was recently unsealed!

The action of unsealing the Nixon Indictment was to establish the precedent to be used against trump!

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