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Jan 11, 2019 10:58:16   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
yhtomit wrote:
FYI, walls work.
Berlin, the wall worked until it was torn down.
San Diego, the wall is working....now.
Israel, the wall is working. Now.
Political conventions...temporary walls erected that work.
People build homes and build walls that work...
If walls don’t work why are liberals living behind walls?


Of course walls work, only the dimwitted Dims believe they don't work; as they march right into one.

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Jan 11, 2019 11:04:59   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Pegasus wrote:
No, it contradicts your point. Again. Walls work, they have always worked, for thousands of years.


Wrongo, lil buckaroo.

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Jan 11, 2019 11:32:34   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Twardlow wrote:
Wrongo, lil buckaroo.


Tadslow, this is why the Dims are losing the argument about the wall. You're trying to convince people that something we have been building, using and depending on for thousands of years does not work. It's futile and you're embarrassing yourself the more you carry on. (Not just you, all the Dims.)

I think some of you Dims saw that you were losing and have tried a different tack; the wall is immoral. Ok, Why is it immoral? What is immoral about a wall at the border while a wall around your house or the Vatican or the White House, or countless number of other places moral?

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Jan 11, 2019 11:36:23   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Twardlow wrote:
Wrongo, lil buckaroo.


Does Arkansas have any walls or barriers?
If so, what are you doing about it?
2 questions.

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Jan 11, 2019 11:44:51   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Pegasus wrote:
This is why the Dims are losing the argument about the wall. You're trying to convince people that something we have been building, using and depending on for thousands of years does not work. It's futile and you're embarrassing yourself the more you carry on. (Not just you, all the Dims.)

I think some of you Dims saw that you were losing and have tried a different tack; the wall is immoral. Ok, Why is it immoral? What is immoral about a wall at the border while a wall around your house or the Vatican or the White House, or countless number of other places moral?
This is why the Dims are losing the argument about... (show quote)


Still Wrongo, lil buckaroo; see this:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-573177-1.html

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Jan 11, 2019 11:46:29   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Twardlow wrote:
Still Wrongo, lil buckaroo; see this:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-573177-1.html


Tadslow, you are really slow. I've told you before; if you didn't write it, I'm not reading it.

And you lost the debate.

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Jan 11, 2019 12:31:00   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Bet I could put a bullet through your house walls an hit you in your chair.


You wrote that Trump said "WALLS DON'T WORK". You're famous for sending links, so send the link where Trump said "WALLS DON'T WORK".

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Jan 11, 2019 12:39:07   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Twardlow wrote:
Still Wrongo, lil buckaroo; see this:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-573177-1.html


This is a first, your posting old propaganda to promote new propaganda.
Question, do you have walls on and in your dwelling ?
Question, why do you need them?
Question, Why are your exterior walls not made entirely of styrofoam?

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Jan 11, 2019 12:54:44   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Get off of your fat ass and come down to the border for a night or two (as you seem to refuse to listen to the agents on the border).... what you will see is quite the experience. Try Santa Theresa or Antelope Wells, or even El Paso.

Note.....the walls DO work in the areas they were built. Talk to any border agent while you’re down there (not some retired or fired idiot in D.C.) in EVERY area where there was a new barrier built the illegal crossings there went down and yes, they were funneled to other areas. This funneling narrows the vast expanse to search and arrest.
Get off of your fat ass and come down to the borde... (show quote)


Just a little history to remember



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Jan 11, 2019 13:32:49   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Pegasus wrote:
Tadslow, you are really slow. I've told you before; if you didn't write it, I'm not reading it.

And you lost the debate.


But you always read it, don’t you?

And even if you don’t, the argument you raised is answered for others to read.

Who the hell cares if You read it?

AND, I didn’t lose the debate, either.

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Jan 11, 2019 13:34:27   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Just a little history to remember


But they didn’t die of old age, did they?

Who do you think won that engagement?

That wall is still standing, but it didn’t do them a damn bit of good, did it?

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Jan 11, 2019 13:40:15   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You my friend are a habitual liar and BS'er.

Israel-West Bank: The border wall — actually much more a security fence — was constructed in the wake of the 2001-2002 terror campaign in Israel. Almost immediately, the number of successful terror attacks in the Jewish state dropped by 90 percent. Indeed, it is Israel to which the Trump administration and wall proponents might turn to resolve one of the main arguments about duplicating the system along the US-Mexican border. After all, Israel has developed anti-tunnel radar and other technology to stymie Hamas (and Hezbollah) terrorist who might try to tunnel. Jerusalem might have developed that technology for Israel’s own security, but it could just as easily be replicated to detect, interdict, and destroy tunnels under the US border.

Morocco-Algeria: Morocco fought a bloody insurgency and terrorist campaign sponsored by Algeria’s and Cuba’s Cold War proxy, the Polisario Front. The Polisario became ineffective, however, after Morocco built its famous 1,700-mile system of sand berms, fences, mine fields, and ditches.

Cyprus: It was the United Nations which built a wall dividing Cyprus between the northern Turkish portion and the remaining Greek section after Turkey invaded and occupied parts of the island nation in 1974. To cite international law as opposed to walls is, therefore, nonsense since the United Nations created the precedent.

India-Pakistan: India and Pakistan fought wars in 1947, 1965, 1971, and 1999, that collectively killed millions of people. The two sides have had a more than three decade-long standoff on the Siachen glacier and several skirmishes elsewhere along the disputed border. Because Pakistani terror groups regularly try to infiltrate and wreak havoc in India, India constructed a border fence and wall system to keep Pakistanis out. That’s a good thing, because nowhere else in the world could a simple border incident so quickly escalate into nuclear war.

Turkey-Syria: Throughout the 1990s, Turkey faced an escalating challenge from the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), a group leading a Kurdish insurgency against the Turkish Army. Indeed, Syria only seriously cracked down on the PKK when Turkey credibly threatened war. Turkey subsequently reinforced the border with fences, mine fields, and no-man’s land, and it worked. The next 15 years was largely quiet. It was only when Turkey’s leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan removed many of the defenses and turned a blind eye to border security that the terrorism problem in Syria — and its subsequent blowback inside Turkey itself — grew so great.

There are other walls out there, of course: Saudi Arabia has just built a wall along its disputed border with Yemen to keep Yemeni-based terrorists out of the Saudi Kingdom. India has a long-standing border fence with Bangladesh to prevent illegal immigration. Hungary is building a fence to protect its borders. Greece maintains a heavily protected border with Turkey. Spain fortifies its enclaves in Africa.

Simply put, if the goal is to protect national security and curtail illegal immigration, the record is clear: walls work.


http://www.aei.org/publication/the-places-where-walls-work/
You my friend are a habitual liar and BS'er. br b... (show quote)


You fail to mention—perhaps to notice—that wall has caused war from the day it was built until today, and still counting. It brought no peace.

There are more than one way for a wall to fail, and this wall fails, too.

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Jan 11, 2019 13:43:00   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Pegasus wrote:
Of course walls work, and they work very well which is why the Dims are against the wall. In more ways than one.

Walls are very good at preventing people from going where you do not want them to go. They have been in use for thousands of years very successfully.


...very succussfully? The Great Wall of China? The Great Wall of Athens?

Well, you know, I have listed many that failed. As the article says, Walls aren’t about security, but about theater.

They aren’t about making you safe, but fooling you into believing you are safe—not the same thing.

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Jan 11, 2019 14:41:15   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Twardlow wrote:
But they didn’t die of old age, did they?

Who do you think won that engagement?

That wall is still standing, but it didn’t do them a damn bit of good, did it?


Are you really thick enough between the ears to believe the wall didn't contribute to that lasting more than a day? Yeah, I guess you are that thick.

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Jan 11, 2019 14:43:45   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
So can you answer any of the questions I posed to you on this thread?

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