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Jan 9, 2019 12:59:15   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
dsmeltz wrote:
The EOS-R has a weather sealing issue. Not a terrible one, but one that must be considered. While many parts are sealed, like knobs and closures some body fittings are not. They are just part against part. I think the camera will perform well in most conditions, but in moderate to heavy rain I would be using shield on any camera body regardless of what the manufacturer told me about sealing.


MT said:
Quote:
it can not be done


It most definitely CAN be done, since other manufacturers are producing cameras with flippy screens that are fully weather sealed. From his posts, MT clearly doesn’t like Canon cameras, but to make that statement was very unprofessional of him.

Here is my Em5 mark2, using the snow (Xmas day) as a tripod for a shot where I was using the camera’s hi res shot feature to get a 64mp file.

Btw, I wouldn’t ever consider using any type of protection on these cameras. They don’t need it.



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Jan 9, 2019 18:46:05   #
thephotoman Loc: Rochester, NY
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Maybe the 50 f/1.2 and the 24-105 f/4?

Yes, you are correct. I should have checked, rather than to rely on my aging memory.

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Jan 9, 2019 19:22:25   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
tdekany wrote:
As a camera store owner, you made a 100% incorrect claim and when corrected, this is how you behave?

It sure tells a lot about your character.



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Jan 9, 2019 19:33:56   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
You know MT that is the most childish reply I have ever seen in this forum - so who's the little boy here. Play nice or don't contribute at all.
MT Shooter wrote:
Still as pathetic as ever I see. Bye bye little boy.

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Jan 9, 2019 20:02:37   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
This off DPreview "Canon R has environmental sealings on its body which makes it a weather resistant camera. If you like outdoors photography and want to be able to use your camera in extreme conditions, Canon R will serve you well. If you attach one of these Canon R weather Sealed lenses to R you will have a great all weather kit." - so maybe you should look again or do you still insist you know more than everyone else.
MT Shooter wrote:
Maybe you should re-read its specs! NOT weather sealed! No Canon with a flippy screen is weather sealed! Cannot be done.

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Jan 9, 2019 21:13:59   #
User ID
 
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MT Shooter wrote:

Maybe you should re-read its specs! NOT
weather sealed! No Canon with a flippy
screen is weather sealed! Cannot be done.


During monsoon season, you can park
the screen against the body and just
seal the edges with freezer tape. Never
sweat the small stuff. And turn a deaf
ear to an envious "Voice of Doom".

FWIW, cut-n-paste from the CUSA site:

Dust & Water-resistant Sealing

The EOS R camera is designed for use in
a variety of weather conditions. Sealing
materials are used in critical areas like
the buttons, terminal covers, the battery
compartment and the card slot cover.
Precise design and construction help to
minimize accidental penetration of dust
and moisture in the rest of the camera
body. Combined with an RF lens, or any
other weather-sealed EF/EF-S lens, the
EOS R proves to be a reliable partner in
virtually any climate.




Keep calm and carry on !

.

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Jan 10, 2019 07:11:21   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
thephotoman wrote:
Yes, you are correct. I should have checked, rather than to rely on my aging memory.


Don't worry about the aging memory thing. Young people DO NOT have better memories. They just haven't done much to forget. Or done enough to want to forget.

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Jan 10, 2019 07:27:40   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
DanielB wrote:
This off DPreview "Canon R has environmental sealings on its body which makes it a weather resistant camera. If you like outdoors photography and want to be able to use your camera in extreme conditions, Canon R will serve you well. If you attach one of these Canon R weather Sealed lenses to R you will have a great all weather kit." - so maybe you should look again or do you still insist you know more than everyone else.


DPReview finds it sufficiently sealed. However, Canon does not claim that the full camera is weather sealed.

According to the LensRental tear down " there’s weather sealing below each of the top dials. As you can see to the right of that, though, the rest of the body depends on a plastic overlap to keep stuff out, there are no gaskets".

On the rear panel they found "the bracing and weather sealing around the bracket are excellent and sturdy." They also praised the rear panel assembly for a design that would allow easy replacement.

Comparing to the " Sony A7RIII, it’s taken a bit of internet trashing for its lack of weather sealing. ...The Canon EOS-R is just about the same; well-sealed buttons and dials, not much else. That means, I think, that it will be fine in a misty rain for a while, but don’t get it saturated and don’t set it somewhere wet."

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2018/10/teardown-of-the-canon-eos-r-mirrorless-camera/

Of course we are treating "weather sealed" like it was "weather proof." They are not the same. In heavy rain, use protection. I hear relying on someone else for protection is not 100% effective.

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Jan 10, 2019 11:50:46   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
That's good information - had not seen that. I also read that Canon says the R has the same level of weather sealing as the 6D II. Either way I have always tried my best to protect my 5D's from the elements just to be on the safe side even though they are pretty well sealed.
As far as the articulated screen goes I don't think I would use it much anyway and I think it's probably the most vulnerable part on any camera that has one.

To be perfectly honest I'm more excited about the new R glass than I am the Camera itself. Can't wait to see what the next gen R bodies will be like.

dsmeltz wrote:
DPReview finds it sufficiently sealed. However, Canon does not claim that the full camera is weather sealed.

According to the LensRental tear down " there’s weather sealing below each of the top dials. As you can see to the right of that, though, the rest of the body depends on a plastic overlap to keep stuff out, there are no gaskets".

On the rear panel they found "the bracing and weather sealing around the bracket are excellent and sturdy." They also praised the rear panel assembly for a design that would allow easy replacement.

Comparing to the " Sony A7RIII, it’s taken a bit of internet trashing for its lack of weather sealing. ...The Canon EOS-R is just about the same; well-sealed buttons and dials, not much else. That means, I think, that it will be fine in a misty rain for a while, but don’t get it saturated and don’t set it somewhere wet."

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2018/10/teardown-of-the-canon-eos-r-mirrorless-camera/

Of course we are treating "weather sealed" like it was "weather proof." They are not the same. In heavy rain, use protection. I hear relying on someone else for protection is not 100% effective.
DPReview finds it sufficiently sealed. However, ... (show quote)

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Jan 10, 2019 11:58:28   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
DanielB wrote:
That's good information - had not seen that. I also read that Canon says the R has the same level of weather sealing as the 6D II. Either way I have always tried my best to protect my 5D's from the elements just to be on the safe side even though they are pretty well sealed.
As far as the articulated screen goes I don't think I would use it much anyway and I think it's probably the most vulnerable part on any camera that has one.

To be perfectly honest I'm more excited about the new R glass than I am the Camera itself. Can't wait to see what the next gen R bodies will be like.
That's good information - had not seen that. I als... (show quote)


The R glass and the reported sometimes improved performance of legacy glass with the adapter.

I think the Canon mirrorless strategy is based on lenses instead of gee wizz do thingys like some of the other brands.

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Jan 10, 2019 12:14:20   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Okay then - all is good in the world of photography
User ID wrote:
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During monsoon season, you can park
the screen against the body and just
seal the edges with freezer tape. Never
sweat the small stuff. And turn a deaf
ear to an envious "Voice of Doom".

FWIW, cut-n-paste from the CUSA site:

Dust & Water-resistant Sealing

The EOS R camera is designed for use in
a variety of weather conditions. Sealing
materials are used in critical areas like
the buttons, terminal covers, the battery
compartment and the card slot cover.
Precise design and construction help to
minimize accidental penetration of dust
and moisture in the rest of the camera
body. Combined with an RF lens, or any
other weather-sealed EF/EF-S lens, the
EOS R proves to be a reliable partner in
virtually any climate.




Keep calm and carry on !

.
` br br br br During monsoon season, ... (show quote)

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Jan 11, 2019 12:06:58   #
thelazya Loc: Wendell, MN
 
As with sex and cameras - always use protection

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Feb 12, 2019 17:15:00   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
I get mine tomorrow. Getting it with the 24-105mm f4L IS and the adapter w/ custom function ring for my EF lenses. I will also post soon with pics.
thephotoman wrote:
I have now had my EOS-R for 2 weeks. So far the photos are great. The low light capacity is wonderful. The focusing is quick and spot on. I got both of the lenses for the camera and both are fantastic. I must say, there is a lot of new features that I need to learn. I just got a new card reader(my old one died) so I will post some pics soon.

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Feb 12, 2019 17:17:18   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
This is true for now but I feel much bigger things are coming from the Canon Mirrorless line.
dsmeltz wrote:
The R glass and the reported sometimes improved performance of legacy glass with the adapter.

I think the Canon mirrorless strategy is based on lenses instead of gee wizz do thingys like some of the other brands.

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Feb 13, 2019 00:34:28   #
thephotoman Loc: Rochester, NY
 
DanielB wrote:
I get mine tomorrow. Getting it with the 24-105mm f4L IS and the adapter w/ custom function ring for my EF lenses. I will also post soon with pics.

Danial, I love that lens. I have used it a lot since I got my camera. I just learned how to download my photos and have a lot of catching up to do.

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