About Walls... (Page 3): Is there really a rwinger that has or use that.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

WNYShooter wrote:

Don't bother trying to interject common sense into a conversation with him, you'll only get a headache.

Is there really a rwinger that has or use that.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

wooden_ships wrote:

Walls are useful in small areas where constant vig... (show quote)

The Wall, vulnerable to a common hand saw, is not a barrier at all, but a ruse to ignite the passion of ‘the base,’ to keep then aroused and vigilant in the face of inevitable impeachment, to keep rabble in the streets, adrenalin in full flow, and the illlusion of legitimacy alive and in full affront to reason and the nation.

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

This is your response when you have been shown to be wrong?

Kraken wrote:

There is something really wrong about your thinking, seriously, no joking you have to go out and seek help.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Screamin Scott wrote:

This is your response when you have been shown to be wrong?

As well as yours lol

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

LWW wrote:

Nobody has suggested the entire 2,000 miles ... and supply your case that walls don't work.

San Diego claims it works as well as many other border areas.

The border patrol says it works.

Schumer says it works ... so does Obama ... so does Biden ... so does Hillary.

If you have a case, make it ... just, please, stop being a sock puppet for Rachel.

Of course the suggestion was the full 2,000 miles—are you lying as you accuse others of or merely critically misinformed?

And I have supplied you desired case that The Great Wall Of China failed, the Israeli wall kept war alive and active each and every day since it was built, The Berlin Wall was Russia’s shame and a beacon to the free world, The Great Wall of Athens failed the worlds most civilized nation, Hadrian’s didn’t save Rome from the barbarians, and on and on.

This boondoggle to the base will enrich a world of trump’s cronies—including, no doubt, trump himself, The Corruption King!—and cause only minor inconvenience to the ‘illegals,’ as they tunnel under it (or use tunnel already in place) sail around it Vacation style, or Fly Over it in Comfort and Splendor.

Ah, Failure, Additional Failure, then Repeated Failure, chasing Phantoms and Shadows in Run-From-Terror-and-Save-Your-Family-in-America game of Hide and Seek.

Frosty Loc: Minnesota

Twardlow wrote:

The Wall, vulnerable to a common hand saw, is not a barrier at all, but a ruse to ignite the passion of ‘the base,’ to keep then aroused and vigilant in the face of inevitable impeachment, to keep rabble in the streets, adrenalin in full flow, and the illlusion of legitimacy dishonestly alive and in full affront to reason and the nation.

You are absolutely correct. Why is this suddenly an emergency? The.number of illegals entering the US has been declining steadily for the past 10 years.

Rather than debate if a wall is an effective deterrent, we should be asking if we need one. The news paper said this morning that he is eyeing money meant for disaster aid to build a wall. Would this then be known as the "Trump Diaster Wall"?

From Fact Checker: https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/hose numbers, which come from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, are for fiscal years and date back to 1960.

How many people are crossing the border illegally?

There’s no official measure of how many people succeed in illegally crossing the border, but authorities use the number of apprehensions to gauge changes in illegal immigration. Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 396,579 in 2018.

That’s a 76 percent decline in the number of apprehensions between the peak in 2000 and 2018.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Pegasus wrote:

Tadslow, here's the thing; if you didn't write it,... (show quote)

Looks to me that you’ve been reading me, but you haven’t been thinking—the Maginot Line was one of History’s GREAT FAILURES—a very poor example for you to assert, a very good one for me to point out.

I hope trump’s wall is a greater success than your history or your insight.

Huey Driver Loc: Texas

Twardlow wrote:

Of course the suggestion was the full 2,000 miles—... (show quote)

It truly boggles my mind the number of people who are against the wall but have no other solution to the illegal border crossings. Are these people just plain ignorant and think illegals crossing the border isn't a problem that needs to be dealt with now?

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Huey Driver wrote:

It truly boggles my mind the number of people who are against the wall but have no other solution to the illegal border crossings. Are these people just plain ignorant and think illegals crossing the border isn't a problem that needs to be dealt with now?

There far better solutions an more better coming to light than wall that stops nothing

Frosty Loc: Minnesota

Twardlow wrote:

Of course the suggestion was the full 2,000 miles—... (show quote)

One really does wonder if Trump and his tangled web of organizations aren't poised to make money off this huge construction project.

The Soviets built a wall around East Berlin. A lesser known barrier separated East and West Germany. The barrier they built to separate East and West Germany (as opposed to East and West Berlin, which was totally inclosed within East Germany) was a series of fences. Some areas had two fences. The first fence was a regular high elecrified fence. The second fence was about 15 feet high and shaped like a giant M. It too, was electrified. This fence was very difficult to cross and would be much cheaper to build......if something really has to be built to satisfy Trump's ego.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Huey Driver wrote:

It truly boggles my mind the number of people who are against the wall but have no other solution to the illegal border crossings. Are these people just plain ignorant and think illegals crossing the border isn't a problem that needs to be dealt with now?

Do you understand that crossings are at a 45 year low?

Do you understand that most ‘illegals’ FLY into this country?

Do you understand the Great Walls often—usually—Fail?

And that they fail in more ways than one.

The Israeli wall, touted as a great success, has guaranteed perpetual war since the day it was built.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

LWW wrote:

You do realize that repeating the lie won’t make the lie into truth?

To paraphrase an oft repeated comment, the definition of insanity is repeating the same falsehood over and over again and expecting it to suddenly be true!

It’s imbecilic to think a physical barrier will not discourage living creatures..... of course, we know they are being disengenuous when they say this as they are creating the false test of either 100% effective or 0%.
At 5.7 billion, the cost is a “tip” and should have been spent long ago.

Huey Driver Loc: Texas

dirtpusher wrote:

There far better solutions an more better coming to light than wall that stops nothing

As usual lots of verbal flatulence from you dirtbutt but as usual nothing specific and constructive like what's better than a wall?

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Twardlow wrote:

Why would you expect me to learn that, when you haven’t learned it.

If you see a lie, call me on it.

Be specific.

Don’t compound the situation with 400 year old definitions of “liberal.”

Get off of your fat ass and come down to the border for a night or two (as you seem to refuse to listen to the agents on the border).... what you will see is quite the experience. Try Santa Theresa or Antelope Wells, or even El Paso.

Note.....the walls DO work in the areas they were built. Talk to any border agent while you’re down there (not some retired or fired idiot in D.C.) in EVERY area where there was a new barrier built the illegal crossings there went down and yes, they were funneled to other areas. This funneling narrows the vast expanse to search and arrest.

Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast

Twardlow wrote:

Looks to me that you’ve been reading me, but you haven’t been thinking—the Maginot Line was one of History’s GREAT FAILURES—a very poor example for you to assert, a very good one for me to point out.

I hope trump’s wall is a greater success than your history or your insight.

I just LOVE how you took the bait; your ignorance is deep and wide.

The Maginot Line was designed as a wall to prevent the Germans from invading France directly. It ran from the Swiss border to the Belgian border. The strategy was that when (not if) the Germans would invade they would have to come through Belgium and there the French army along with the BEF would stop them cold, fighting on foreign territory (Belgium.)

The Maginot line performed exactly as designed (as wall always do) and the German army went through Belgium and there the French Army and the BEF were waiting for them. As the reports of the first contacts reached Paris, the French government did what it has always done; panic and surrender.

The Maginot line is often (incorrectly) cited as an example of the "futility" of depending on fixed positions. However the ones who say that are as ignorant as you are. The Maginot line worked as planned; the French government didn't.

Walls work; it's the people who man the walls who fail.