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Jan 9, 2019 11:30:51   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
dsmeltz wrote:
For most RE shots you can correct perspective in post and not have to spend the big bucks on a tilt/shift.

Having said that,

I WANT ONE!!! I REALLY WANT ONE!!! THEY ARE JUST SO COOL!!!


D - that's a false equivalence - yes, you can correct in post - but it is at the expense of pixels and image extents. After making a correction, the field of view is inevitably narrower. Being able to raise or shift a lens is better (and faster) than fussing with a tripod, head and center tube extension height - besides, in my case, neither of my tripods have center columns, so I would end up adjusting 3 legs and re-leveling the camera - even for a tiny move.

Get one - they are as cool as you think they are. If you have Canon - the options are greater. Though Nikon's aren't that bad. My big issue with Nikon PC-E lenses is that if you vertically shift, you can't also vertically tilt - the tilt is always 90° off the shift axis. You can spend $150 or so and have the lens modified, but then if you wanted to go back you'd have to spend another $150. The Canons that I have used have independent axes for shift and tilt.

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Jan 9, 2019 11:34:10   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
dsmeltz wrote:
How NOT to do RE photography.
I was considering retiring to Cyprus awhile ago. I found a site with a search function to look for properties and found some of the worst RE shots ever. If you have the time try it out. Almost every mistake you can make is there. From dirty clothes to underexposed dark images to just plain confusing what are they trying to show here shots.

https://www.prime-property.com/en/Sale/


And these are examples of HOW to do RE:

http://ronnachtwey.com/

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Jan 9, 2019 11:49:54   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Just a suggestion or two. 1) For inside you might consider HDR as it will give you more light spread, show all inside and out the window. 2) If you want to go top of the line 17mm TS lens. It will help eliminate distortion and also lets you get in tight spots with out distorting the picture, but that is big step.

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Jan 9, 2019 12:30:38   #
billgdyoung Loc: Big Bear City, CA
 
canon Lee wrote:
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HI. I have been in my own photography business for over a decade doing studio shoots and remotes, & like you I just recently got into doing real estate shoots. I charge $100 per shoot and it take me no more than an hour to do the shoot, another hour PP . More and more agents are using us pros rather than using their iphones. They now see how fast they get showings. The houses here range from million dollar to 100k . Its a beach community and there are tons of real estate agents here.
I discovered quickly that I had to get the right equipment. I use full frame and wide lenses. the rooms are tiny. I got new business cards and a letter of recommendation and started to knock on doors.
You might look into a technique where you use ambient light bracketed in Aperture Priority. No need to bring lights or flashes. The only tricky part of the shoot is the blow out from the windows. Look into HDR. The new Canon 6D has HDR, this will save you lots of time. practice at home . The other part you will need to know is how to send the images so the agent can upload them into the multiple listings programs. I use LR, as it has HDR and I resize the photos at a 4:3 aspect ratio. This the standard that the agents use with Paragon MLS program. I hope you get well. Don't over do it. Lee
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regarding blown out windows... use the rear sync with the flash. Hold the exposure of the view outside, then recompose to the inside of the room. Experiment... renders a good exposure of the interior and includes the outside view as well.

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Jan 9, 2019 12:36:11   #
canon Lee
 
ggenova64 wrote:
"Or keeping my 7D and buying a better lens ." By all means, keep your 7D and upgrade the lenses until you start producing a return on your investment!


I have gone in a circle, firstly looking at a new full frame camera and lens, to keeping my 7D and adding a new wide angle lens. I decided to keep the 7D and add a new lens. Now I am researching what wide angle lens I will need. I am looking into the Canon 10-18mm but don't know how much distortion it has. It the barrel affect the fisheyes have that I don't want. I can adjust the tilt distortion In LR also by keeping it parallel but the barrel effect I don't want. have you had any experience with the 10-18?

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Jan 9, 2019 12:36:14   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
My RE work is mostly done with a 14-24 with either my D5 or D850, for the interiors anyway. I also use my 24-70 a bit. I too use Lr to do some correction when it makes sense. My jobs run from quick and cheap to more elaborate, dependent on home value and client. Best of luck.

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Jan 9, 2019 12:38:09   #
canon Lee
 
mvetrano2 wrote:
On crop sensor, Canon 10-18, 10-22, and on full-frame 5 choices: Canon 11-24, 16-35, Sigma 12-24 Tamron 15-30, or Tokina 16-28.


do you have any experience with the 10-18mm? I'm using a crop sensor? how is the distortion?

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Jan 9, 2019 13:07:47   #
copladocus
 
canon Lee wrote:
Hi again. I am looking at the Canon 6D body for around $1K not sure what lens. Looks like around $2k for the body and lens.


I was one of the first people here to buy the 6D2. I got it with the 24-105 lens. I am pleased with it. I just got the 16-35 f/4L lens for Christmas and it is a great lens and highly recommended by any number of hogs here. I have been thinking about trying my hand at real estate photography but honestly don't know how to break into the field or how to price my work. Not to hijack the post but suggestions from you pros would be welcome. BTW I live in Louisville so I don't think I would be your competition...

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Jan 9, 2019 13:32:09   #
canon Lee
 
Gene51 wrote:
And these are examples of HOW to do RE:

http://ronnachtwey.com/


HI Gene thank you for sharing. I would like to add a more realistic view point . Yes I want to get as near excellent as possible photos, but, Gene, I am not shooting for a magazine, corporation or million dollar homes. but for realtors that will only pay $100.00 for a shoot. I am not sure the agents and public really can see what expensive equipment can do. But as a photographer I would want the best equipment. I do know to level my camera to the floor to cut down on some of the distortion. I am really trying to get a wide angle lens that will get me more of the tiny rooms, without barrel distortion or fisheye look. I am looking at the Canon 10-18mm for my crop sensor camera. What do you think about this lens? I have a 15-85mm but it has too much barrel distortion. I am presently using a 17-55mm which has no barrel distortion but limits the amount of the room that I can take. I am not sure buying a full frame camera ,like the Canon 6D2, will help that much. To put 2K into a new camera and lens just isn't practical for this market where I'm living now.
So Gene, what lens would you suggest for my Canon 7D?

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Jan 9, 2019 13:51:59   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
canon Lee wrote:
HI Gene thank you for sharing. I would like to add a more realistic view point . Yes I want to get as near excellent as possible photos, but, Gene, I am not shooting for a magazine, corporation or million dollar homes. but for realtors that will only pay $100.00 for a shoot. I am not sure the agents and public really can see what expensive equipment can do. But as a photographer I would want the best equipment. I do know to level my camera to the floor to cut down on some of the distortion. I am really trying to get a wide angle lens that will get me more of the tiny rooms, without barrel distortion or fisheye look. I am looking at the Canon 10-18mm for my crop sensor camera. What do you think about this lens? I have a 15-85mm but it has too much barrel distortion. I am presently using a 17-55mm which has no barrel distortion but limits the amount of the room that I can take. I am not sure buying a full frame camera ,like the Canon 6D2, will help that much. To put 2K into a new camera and lens just isn't practical for this market where I'm living now.
So Gene, what lens would you suggest for my Canon 7D?
HI Gene thank you for sharing. I would like to ... (show quote)


I like the 10-18 and use it a lot. If I were buying now, I might want the older Sigma 10-20 3.5 (3.5 through the whole range). It runs around $400 and is a little faster than the Canon 10-18 4.5-5.6. When I got the 10-18 the Sigma was running at $650. I read that the Sigma has been a favorite with many RE photographers.

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Jan 9, 2019 14:00:10   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
For my RE work, I use my 14-24 quite a bit and my 24-70 some as well. I shoot with both the D5 and D850 for this work. What, and how much, I do depends on the agent and the home's value. Best of luck.

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Jan 9, 2019 14:13:46   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Have done real estate but not as a business. Body and lens not as important as a lightweight tripod,lighting control, and technique, IMO.
Seldom found a need to go wider than 24mm, but it does happen.
I know 2 pros that use Canon 5D MKIII bodies with the Canon 16-35 lenses who claim it is everything they need for real estate.
Personally, I think the 6D is capable of the same quality images at a far friendlier price. Couple that to a 16-35 f/2.8 or a 17-40 f/4 and it will work just fine. Natural light real estate almost begs for a FF body. Large aperture lenses not all that necessary if you are using a tripod, but then again, time is money.That said, the 7D is quite capable in decent light or if using flash. I would look for a used 10-22 or 10-18 or even rent one for a week to determine if you feel the need to go beyond APS-C. Sounds exciting. Best of luck.

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Jan 9, 2019 15:08:01   #
billgdyoung Loc: Big Bear City, CA
 
canon Lee wrote:
HI Gene thank you for sharing. I would like to add a more realistic view point . Yes I want to get as near excellent as possible photos, but, Gene, I am not shooting for a magazine, corporation or million dollar homes. but for realtors that will only pay $100.00 for a shoot. I am not sure the agents and public really can see what expensive equipment can do. But as a photographer I would want the best equipment. I do know to level my camera to the floor to cut down on some of the distortion. I am really trying to get a wide angle lens that will get me more of the tiny rooms, without barrel distortion or fisheye look. I am looking at the Canon 10-18mm for my crop sensor camera. What do you think about this lens? I have a 15-85mm but it has too much barrel distortion. I am presently using a 17-55mm which has no barrel distortion but limits the amount of the room that I can take. I am not sure buying a full frame camera ,like the Canon 6D2, will help that much. To put 2K into a new camera and lens just isn't practical for this market where I'm living now.
So Gene, what lens would you suggest for my Canon 7D?
HI Gene thank you for sharing. I would like to ... (show quote)

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have you considered a tile-shift lens?

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Jan 9, 2019 15:13:36   #
copladocus
 
billgdyoung wrote:
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have you considered a tile-shift lens?


Tilt-Shift lens... Please do comment as this is another thing I have contemplated. BIG $$$ holds me back.

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Jan 9, 2019 15:20:07   #
kdogg Loc: Gallipolis Ferry WV
 
I have a 7 and a 7D II. When I was looking for a wide zoom I put in a lot of research and ended up with a Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 and am very pleased with it.

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