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Jan 8, 2019 05:39:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Here is what the hate America democrats have done to social security.



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Jan 8, 2019 06:12:59   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
You forgot "Liberals created Social Security".

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Jan 8, 2019 06:40:05   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
sb wrote:
You forgot "Liberals created Social Security".


Are you aware of the rules they established to sell the program?

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Jan 8, 2019 06:56:27   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
LWW wrote:
Are you aware of the rules they established to sell the program?


Of course he did.

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Jan 8, 2019 07:25:27   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here is what the hate America democrats have done to social security.


There have been plenty of SS villains Arch


"In 1983, the President Reagan and the United States Congress accepted the recommendations of The Greenspan Commission and increased payroll taxes to save money for the retirement of baby boomers. Excess funds were supposed to be saved so the Social Security Trust Fund would have the money to pay benefits to baby boomers as they retired.

Almost immediately, Congress began “borrowing” that Social Security surplus. The money went to pay for everything from roads and bridges to foreign aid and the Iraq war.

Republican and Democrat Presidents have allowed this raid to go on. And Members of Congress from both parties have participated." Quora

https://www.quora.com/Has-any-president-ever-borrowed-money-from-social-security

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Jan 8, 2019 07:41:56   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here is what the hate America democrats have done to social security.



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Jan 8, 2019 08:23:12   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Your only problem is you can’t wrap your head around the fact that this has gone on for decades and across presidents and congresses of both parties.

This is where you cry foul when the other team does it and cheer when your team does the same thing.

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Jan 8, 2019 08:24:53   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
LWW wrote:
Your only problem is you can’t wrap your head around the fact that this has gone on for decades and across presidents and congresses of both parties.

This is where you cry foul when the other team does it and cheer when your team does the same thing.


Huey never been. Proved he the sharp one

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Jan 9, 2019 07:58:49   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
sb wrote:
You forgot "Liberals created Social Security".


But he didn't forget liberals also destroyed it.

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Jan 9, 2019 08:04:02   #
dcma2005 Loc: Waterbury, Connecticut
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here is what the hate America democrats have done to social security.



Fake news. A little basic research would show that postings similar to this have been circulating for years. It was fake news then; it remains fake news.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/social-security-changes/

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Jan 9, 2019 08:39:42   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dcma2005 wrote:
Fake news. A little basic research would show that postings similar to this have been circulating for years. It was fake news then; it remains fake news.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/social-security-changes/


What is fake about it?
You are absolutely wrong.

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Jan 9, 2019 08:45:08   #
Curtis_Lowe Loc: Georgia
 
Like almost all issues, the SS Trust Fund is complicated.

What would you have them do with the excess funds collected by SS? They bought US bonds, the proceeds from the bonds was spent as with all proceeds from bonds with the promise to pay back.

Imagine what would happen to the value of the dollar if in fort Knox ( or some place of your choosing) piles of Dollars or Gold in an ever increasing amount accumulated from the surplus until like now they draw it down to pay the difference from the amount collected.

You must think a bit I know it is more difficult than just repeating something you read or saw on TV

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Jan 9, 2019 09:08:19   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
But he didn't forget liberals also destroyed it.


If you had a clue you wouldn't be uninformed.



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Jan 9, 2019 09:21:09   #
dcma2005 Loc: Waterbury, Connecticut
 
Architect1776 wrote:
What is fake about it?
You are absolutely wrong.


Really?

Taxation of social security benefits began under the administration of Ronald Reagan in the 1983-1984 timeframe. That is a fact.

Payments into social security from workers paychecks has never been an allowable tax deduction. The original law passed under a democratic president did not provide for such a deduction. That is a fact.


Sorry that these facts do not fit your narrative.

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Jan 9, 2019 09:50:52   #
Curtis_Lowe Loc: Georgia
 
dirtpusher wrote:
If you had a clue you wouldn't be uninformed.


I also used my late fathers SS survivor benefits ~$58/month ( a lot of money then) to supplement my income from part time jobs to pay my way through GT.

I am not aware of any legislation that got passed that slashed SS, can you help out and advise what anybody did or that Ex-speaker Ryan pushed through to slash SS?

He did try to point out that as configured SS is not sustainable long term and that is a problem isn't it?

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