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Dec 21, 2018 12:52:56   #
Jeannie88
 
Two years ago , I switched from my 3 FF Nikon cameras to an Olympus Micro four thirds. I was surprised at just how good the quality was. If I print anything, I send it to Adorama to be printed at 11x14. After I made the switch, I sent a batch of files to be printed. They were from my Nikon D3, D810, D700, and from the Olympus Omd EM1M2, and Em1. I knew which files were which, But No-one else did..and no one I showed the prints to could tell whether a full frame Nikon camera had taken them, or were they shot with the MFT.

To say I was pleased, put it mildly. one concern of leaving my 3 FF cameras and going to MFT cameras, was fear over the image quality. That fear was gone after I saw those prints .

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Dec 21, 2018 12:58:05   #
Diocletian
 
traderjohn wrote:
Only if you are a slave to political correctness.


Says the man with the white male agenda....

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Dec 21, 2018 13:13:53   #
Johnnyparkrat
 
Two more myths:
13. The average shooter can afford a ff camera!
14. Big, heavy, unwieldy, clunky cameras and lenses are much easier to use to catch a shot of a lifetime for the average shooter.

Isn't that what it's all about? Availability and oportunity, that is.

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Dec 21, 2018 13:29:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Actually it was my point. Why do we keep using the 24x36mm format as a reference point? Why do we call it Full Frame? Why do we have crop factor based on this format? I wish we can get rid of the term full frame and the crop factor.



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Dec 21, 2018 13:31:19   #
tomcat
 
IDguy wrote:
Ah, I remember the joke. Sorta. Something like this:

All of Mormanism was delighted to learn today that the second coming was upon us. And it happened in Salt Lake City! There is only one slight problem: She’s black.

Ok, racist and religious bigot all wrapped in one. Have at it!


I like this.....really cute..

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Dec 21, 2018 13:33:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Jeannie88 wrote:
Two years ago , I switched from my 3 FF Nikon cameras to an Olympus Micro four thirds. I was surprised at just how good the quality was. If I print anything, I send it to Adorama to be printed at 11x14. After I made the switch, I sent a batch of files to be printed. They were from my Nikon D3, D810, D700, and from the Olympus Omd EM1M2, and Em1. I knew which files were which, But No-one else did..and no one I showed the prints to could tell whether a full frame Nikon camera had taken them, or were they shot with the MFT.

To say I was pleased, put it mildly. one concern of leaving my 3 FF cameras and going to MFT cameras, was fear over the image quality. That fear was gone after I saw those prints .
Two years ago , I switched from my 3 FF Nikon came... (show quote)


I've heard this story over and over, and lived it myself. FF gear certainly has its place, but if you want to travel light AND get great images, there are other options. Panasonic and Olympus make some of the better ones.

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Dec 21, 2018 13:33:26   #
tomcat
 
Jeannie88 wrote:
Two years ago , I switched from my 3 FF Nikon cameras to an Olympus Micro four thirds. I was surprised at just how good the quality was. If I print anything, I send it to Adorama to be printed at 11x14. After I made the switch, I sent a batch of files to be printed. They were from my Nikon D3, D810, D700, and from the Olympus Omd EM1M2, and Em1. I knew which files were which, But No-one else did..and no one I showed the prints to could tell whether a full frame Nikon camera had taken them, or were they shot with the MFT.

To say I was pleased, put it mildly. one concern of leaving my 3 FF cameras and going to MFT cameras, was fear over the image quality. That fear was gone after I saw those prints .
Two years ago , I switched from my 3 FF Nikon came... (show quote)


If you had shot them in low light and high ISO >12,500, I could have easily spotted which one was from the D3. It's just that good......

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Dec 21, 2018 13:35:14   #
Bill P
 
Aside from numbers 1 and 8, I totallly agree. And isn't there something about dual memory card slots?

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Dec 21, 2018 13:43:25   #
delkeener Loc: SW Rhode Island, USA
 
I guess Hassy and Rolli drew the short straw.

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Dec 21, 2018 13:58:43   #
distill Loc: Huthwaite, Nottinghamshire UK
 
So 70mm was??????? Of course twice as good

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Dec 21, 2018 14:11:35   #
A. T.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
OK, let's hear them. (Just in time for holiday upgrades ... )

1. Bigger pixels are better pixels

2. If you're not full-frame, you're not fully serious

3. If they weren't better, they wouldn't be more expensive

4. Film was full frame and film is still better

5. Your photography is improved by the crop factor of going full frame, 50% better for Nikon users and 60% improvement for Canon users

6. If you can't afford to go full-frame, you can't afford to go from good to great

7. You can't afford to throw away 60% of the frame

8. A cropped sensor is like drinking lite beer

9. If God had meant you to shoot cropped sensors, she wouldn't have invented 35mm film

10. Ansel Adams never would have used a cropped sensor

11. You can't get a shallow depth of field on a cropped sensor

12. If you can't tell the difference, it isn't there
OK, let's hear them. (Just in time for holiday upg... (show quote)


Well, I everybody needs something to talk about.

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Dec 21, 2018 14:34:51   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Past Pro wrote:
God is a she??????

Of course! (they all are)!

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Dec 21, 2018 14:57:59   #
SierraP Loc: Eastern Sierras
 
You forgot the benefit of body building with full frame. Lugging around bigger cameras and much bigger lenses. Full frame also helps to build a bigger and better ego and self worth.

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Dec 21, 2018 15:00:02   #
Johnnyparkrat
 
True,true!

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Dec 21, 2018 15:15:47   #
tomcat
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
OK, let's hear them. (Just in time for holiday upgrades ... )

1. Bigger pixels are better pixels

2. If you're not full-frame, you're not fully serious

3. If they weren't better, they wouldn't be more expensive

4. Film was full frame and film is still better

5. Your photography is improved by the crop factor of going full frame, 50% better for Nikon users and 60% improvement for Canon users

6. If you can't afford to go full-frame, you can't afford to go from good to great

7. You can't afford to throw away 60% of the frame

8. A cropped sensor is like drinking lite beer

9. If God had meant you to shoot cropped sensors, she wouldn't have invented 35mm film

10. Ansel Adams never would have used a cropped sensor

11. You can't get a shallow depth of field on a cropped sensor

12. If you can't tell the difference, it isn't there
OK, let's hear them. (Just in time for holiday upg... (show quote)




I agree that #1 is true. My D3s 12 mp sensor has some honking' huge nuclear pixels designed for ultra high ISO..... they're like a fisherman's net, just grabbing every photon that comes by......

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