I have GAS, mine is as much a mental disorder as not, yes I'm on numerous meds for OCD and anxiety. Anyway I am constantly driven to update my gear, 3 kids in College so I'm a bottom feeding used kind of guy. I currently have an Olympus EM-1.1, with the 4/3's 12-60 f2.8-3.5 and 50-200 f2.8-3.5, E-600 and EP-1 with kit lenses 1-45, 17mm. I also have Nikon D300, D700, D2X with 20mm f4, 25-50 f4, 80-400.
I feel like I need to devote myself to one system or the other and I actually stay up at night stressing about this. I'm tempted to trade the OLY stuff in on a 24-120 f4, Yes any serious input would be greatly appreciated.
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Flickwet wrote:
I have GAS, mine is as much a mental disorder as not, yes I'm on numerous meds for OCD and anxiety. Anyway I am constantly driven to update my gear, 3 kids in College so I'm a bottom feeding used kind of guy. I currently have an Olympus EM-1.1, with the 4/3's 12-60 f2.8-3.5 and 50-200 f2.8-3.5, E-600 and EP-1 with kit lenses 1-45, 17mm. I also have Nikon D300, D700, D2X with 20mm f4, 25-50 f4, 80-400.
I feel like I need to devote myself to one system or the other and I actually stay up at night stressing about this. I'm tempted to trade the OLY stuff in on a 24-120 f4, Yes any serious input would be greatly appreciated.
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Just sell everything and invest in a Large Format setup. Anything less and it would be the wrong system for what you are shooting.
tdekany wrote:
Just sell everything and invest in a Large Format setup. Anything less and it would be the wrong system for what you are shooting.
Hahahahahahahaha, that's the ticket. I'm more comfortable with Nikon, used them all my life, I like the Olympus, but have operating issues cuz...menus. So is a 16 meg 1/2 frame (Subminiature) going to compare with a 12 meg Full Frame (miniature)? Hey Bipod! My former Linhoff technika 4x5 (small format) was also "Mirrorless".
Flickwet wrote:
I have GAS, mine is as much a mental disorder as not, yes I'm on numerous meds for OCD and anxiety. Anyway I am constantly driven to update my gear, 3 kids in College so I'm a bottom feeding used kind of guy. I currently have an Olympus EM-1.1, with the 4/3's 12-60 f2.8-3.5 and 50-200 f2.8-3.5, E-600 and EP-1 with kit lenses 1-45, 17mm. I also have Nikon D300, D700, D2X with 20mm f4, 25-50 f4, 80-400.
I feel like I need to devote myself to one system or the other and I actually stay up at night stressing about this. I'm tempted to trade the OLY stuff in on a 24-120 f4, Yes any serious input would be greatly appreciated.
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Your work is stellar beautiful landscape photography.
I don’t understand why you have GAS, looks to me you have some very good equipment already and what’s not too be satisfied with what you have already! Ultimately it’s your decision what you do good luck Flickwet.
Stay with Olympus. Can't beat their quality.
Your images are great so looks like the equipment you have is serving you well. (Is that Bath Rd. heronry?) If you're comfortable with Nikon then keep it and sell off what you don't use or want. After you sell it, then you can have GAS with your earnings. Maybe get something to challenge your skills even more, like a macro lens for your Nikons. Don't lose sleep over it. In the end, what you have now is a good collection. When the kids get done with college, then you can go hog wild in the camera store! (This is what I'm waiting for....)
Re your question of 16MP half frame vs 12MP full frame.
I had this discussion when I was trying to decide Olympus M1 or Nikon D700. At the end of a Scott Kelby seminar I attended, I
asked him this:
In the film days, bigger film meant more detail. What governs the detail in digital? Will a full frame 12MP give you more detail than a 16MP APS or 4/3 sensor?
His answer was that pixels are pixels - more is better for detail. Where you will trade off is in noise - FF is better because the pixels are bigger.
This is logical, as you are dividing an image up into 16 or 12 million small pieces and the displaying it. Which way would have more detail? Of course the one consisting of more pieces.
You are shooting landscape, so the other advantage of FF, where you can get shallower DOF than with the crop sensor, is no great advantage to you.
I chose the Olympus over the Nikon because I just could not see myself carrying that D700 everywhere (it overwhelmed the MeFoto tripod I was using).
I am very happy with my choice and I recently bought a Mark II which is 20MP and even has better noise control than the M1.1.
Part of my decision was monetary - for the money I had, I could buy a brand new Oly kit or a used Nikon. The other factor was that I trusted Scott's analysis - he encouraged me to go with the Nikon because it is main stream but acknowledged that the greater detail would come from the half frame camera, so I knew he wasn't speaking out of his - oops - I mean he was giving me an honest answer.
Also, the mainstream issue is not such a factor anymore. You can get a lot of aftermarket equipment for Oly now that did not exist when I was shooting their DSLRs.
And the menu is just something you need to deal with when you decide to make some change that can't be handled by Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, and WB settings. Pretty much the stuff you use day to day is right there on the 2 buttons near the power switch or accessible via the Super Control Panel. People obsess too much over the menus in this camera and I just remember that "Google is you friend".
aschweik wrote:
Your images are great so looks like the equipment you have is serving you well. (Is that Bath Rd. heronry?) If you're comfortable with Nikon then keep it and sell off what you don't use or want. After you sell it, then you can have GAS with your earnings. Maybe get something to challenge your skills even more, like a macro lens for your Nikons. Don't lose sleep over it. In the end, what you have now is a good collection. When the kids get done with college, then you can go hog wild in the camera store! (This is what I'm waiting for....)
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Yes and no, it isn't "Bath Rd", but further north along A-P. After looking at my Nikon images I find them "Creamier", the d700 amazed me
FWIW, I have the m5 II and initially found the menus daunting until I got the book by Darrel Young. Revelation! I can access 95% of everything I do via the touch screen. No menu digging! Now I can’t imagine using anything else.
rond-photography wrote:
Re your question of 16MP half frame vs 12MP full frame.
I had this discussion when I was trying to decide Olympus M1 or Nikon D700. At the end of a Scott Kelby seminar I attended, I
asked him this:
In the film days, bigger film meant more detail. What governs the detail in digital? Will a full frame 12MP give you more detail than a 16MP APS or 4/3 sensor?
His answer was that pixels are pixels - more is better for detail. Where you will trade off is in noise - FF is better because the pixels are bigger.
This is logical, as you are dividing an image up into 16 or 12 million small pieces and the displaying it. Which way would have more detail? Of course the one consisting of more pieces.
You are shooting landscape, so the other advantage of FF, where you can get shallower DOF than with the crop sensor, is no great advantage to you.
I chose the Olympus over the Nikon because I just could not see myself carrying that D700 everywhere (it overwhelmed the MeFoto tripod I was using).
I am very happy with my choice and I recently bought a Mark II which is 20MP and even has better noise control than the M1.1.
Part of my decision was monetary - for the money I had, I could buy a brand new Oly kit or a used Nikon. The other factor was that I trusted Scott's analysis - he encouraged me to go with the Nikon because it is main stream but acknowledged that the greater detail would come from the half frame camera, so I knew he wasn't speaking out of his - oops - I mean he was giving me an honest answer.
Also, the mainstream issue is not such a factor anymore. You can get a lot of aftermarket equipment for Oly now that did not exist when I was shooting their DSLRs.
And the menu is just something you need to deal with when you decide to make some change that can't be handled by Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, and WB settings. Pretty much the stuff you use day to day is right there on the 2 buttons near the power switch or accessible via the Super Control Panel. People obsess too much over the menus in this camera and I just remember that "Google is you friend".
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This was exactly the answer I was looking for, thank you, as long as noise isn’t an issue than the greater detail wrought by the denser sensor will be preferred! Thank you, I’ll keep the em1.1
Wow Bath Rd heronry close to my home!
aschweik wrote:
Your images are great so looks like the equipment you have is serving you well. (Is that Bath Rd. heronry?) If you're comfortable with Nikon then keep it and sell off what you don't use or want. After you sell it, then you can have GAS with your earnings. Maybe get something to challenge your skills even more, like a macro lens for your Nikons. Don't lose sleep over it. In the end, what you have now is a good collection. When the kids get done with college, then you can go hog wild in the camera store! (This is what I'm waiting for....)
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As a self described bottom feeder, used gear is a great way to obtain gear. Which system has more used gear? Which system has cheaper gear?
To the OP.......Maybe you should spend your money on therapy.
Alan1729
Loc: England UK, now New York State.
Flickwet wrote:
This was exactly the answer I was looking for, thank you, as long as noise isn’t an issue than the greater detail wrought by the denser sensor will be preferred! Thank you, I’ll keep the em1.1
You may like the OMD EM11 mk2 the stabilisation is awesome, I've hand held shots for seconds no blur. If you have a none 4/3 lens you like it's rendition buy an adaptor. I kept all my Canon FD lenses when I switched to Olympus. Got an adaptor and had fun. Now I have the full use of my FD lenses because I bought one of those sell off Sony a7 bodies. Now however I use my Oly's most often.
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