Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

Yes respect is very important. You should continue to follow this thread and others on the same topic.

You are the one lacking respect. The public, over time and though application of law, determines the general direction of how we as a people view morality and a general concept of respect for others.

You seem to be extremely self centered. And in that respect lacking in appropriate respect for the rights of others in contrast to what you see as your own personal priviledges.

PH CIB

Exactly all of the security cameras and cell phones we are being filmed or photographed all the time whether we like it or not,,,where are the laws on that ? It seems like Photographers are being unfairly targeted.....

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

I say that if someone doesn't want me taking their photo, I won't take their photo. How is this me lacking respect? Please explain and quantify your assertion that I'm self centred. Getting quite personal here.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Thank you for taking the words out of my mouth.

A photographer, Voss, right here on UHH submits excellent
photos several times a week of strangers on the street. Perfectly legal. If they are in a witness protection program or are fleeing a violent spouse it is their problem if they submit themselves to public attention.

As for Facebook photos, if the person submitted the photo to FB, that person should have every expectation that the photo of their five year old daughter in only underpants will be seen and copied by thousands of people. Welcome to the Internet and social media sites.

Dennis

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

Wonderful, because that shows no disrespect

But you claimed nobody has a right to take your picture and post it online. That is, according the US Supreme Court, a constitutionally protected right. Your statement is ultimately disrespectful and very self centered.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

In addition, as a famous law professor from Yale once said, "the law is what the judge says it is".

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

I don't live in the US. I don't live under your constitution. Sigh.

DonB Loc: Port Royal , Tn

I raise this question. I know the above statement is correct in today's legal arena, I have to live with it, like it or not. Question; If a photo is construed as porn, why is the subject not construed as indecent dress (or undress?) Just wondering.

BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan

aellman Loc: Boston MA

Not to mention the various "spy" cameras including the ones built into sunglasses.

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

But you are engaging in a discussion that clearly is about US law, and we can assume you meant what applies if you come to the US. Otherwise you should have stated that you were changing the subject, as we all know there are hundreds of different jurisdictions.

However, despite all that, even though I cannot cite specific legal basis for law in the UK I am willing to bet that in this case it is virtually identical to US law. Show us specifics if you wish to claim otherwise (because what you have stated does not make any sense in context, which is to say the UK is not a moslem country).

(Edit: A seach of photography law in the UK verifies you are absolutely wrong. Granted that UK law has some quirks that can be misunderstood though.)

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Then why would you post in a predominantly American political forum? Before a number of fools jump in to chastise me, I am NOT saying you cannot post here. Many do. But to post from the UK regarding a post of American laws seems a bit foolish to me. I realize laws are somewhat different in the UK (of course that is why we left centuries ago) but thinking your opinion matters here with our laws is humorous at best.

Dennis

spaceytracey Loc: East Glacier Park, MT

There are situations where it's probably good to carry model/property release forms.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

RESPECT! Perhaps, in the throes of doing our work and wanting to record people and life as we see it, we lose perspective. We know that there is no legal expectation of privacy in public places but perhas some folks have their own issues or problems and should be left alone-especially if they verbally object to being photographed. Some people's religious beliefs forbid "graven images". Some folks are shy, become embarrassed or have a poor self-image. Unceremoniously, sticking a camera in someone's face on the street can certainly be disturbing and may even evoke a defensive or violent responses.

My experience that good "street" photograhers work inconspicuously or have a talent to blend in with whatever activities are ongoing. Some can kinda put out a good vibe that does not intimidate people and may even enlist their subject's involvement or cooperation.The may not "pose" per se, but the just do what the are doing a let the photographer do his or her art or job.

In some geographic locations-cities and towns, folks are used to artist and photograhers working in public- doing their art. In othere places, perhas they are looked upon as intruders. It's important to know your environment and its attitudes.

I've always operated under the premise that giving respect will garner respect in the majority of situations.

My perspective- My question to ask yourselves is this: Unless you are an investigative photojournalist working undercover in some hostile environment, is capturing any image or doing any self-assigned project important enough to cause discomfort, intimidation, worry or anxiety in another human being?

Perhaps difficulties that courteous photograhers encounter are brought about by the rude and inconsiderate action of indecorous photograhers- we kinda pay for the sins of others. Perhaps the recent and massive proliferation of child pornography and othere extremely distasteful forms of raw porn is so disgusting that some folks begin painting innocent photograhers with the same bad brush- unsophisticated but quite possible.

Understanding some of theses unfortunate situations and being sympathetic to people's fears and concerns will not constitute your abandonment of you legal, civil or constitutional rights. Compassion and respect goes a long way!

Sadly enough- when some folks begin getting vitriolic and hostile with each other in theses threads, it's indicative of why they might have difficulties working with and among the public. In the photography biz- nice guys and gals finish first.

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

Those having a go at me clearly are not reading my posts properly. This thread has become quite hostile. But apparently I'm not allowed to state my opinion, as some think it's humorous. Again, please read what I'm saying. Law should not be the most important thing here. Therefore, I can say whatever the heck I like thank you very much. Respect to those who are seeing both sides of the argument, sadly some others think their photography can come at the expense of upsetting others. Shameful.