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Nov 22, 2018 14:03:59   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Ummm...it is YOU that is running from the question I posed you. Lol learn how to read.

Keenan wrote:
Wow. So on the most controversial and outrageous a... (show quote)


You do know that an assailant who murders a pregnant woman can by charged with double murder at ANY stage of pregnancy right? Is this proposed law any different?


Keep running, Rac.

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Nov 22, 2018 14:13:58   #
EyeSawYou
 
Keenan wrote:
Keep running, Rac.


Rac again? ROTFLMBO you are deflecting from my question because you know you are cornered once again. I WIN AGAIN!!! LOL

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Nov 22, 2018 14:35:08   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Ummm...it is YOU that is running from the question I posed you. Lol learn how to read.

Keenan wrote:
Wow. So on the most controversial and outrageous a... (show quote)


You do know that an assailant who murders a pregnant woman can by charged with double murder at ANY stage of pregnancy right? Is this proposed law any different?


Congratulations Rac. You are exactly wrong, once again.

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Nov 22, 2018 14:49:52   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Frank T wrote:
The question presently on the floor is, Do you believe that if a woman is raped and gets an abortion, she should be put to death?
Yes or No


Is she being forced to not get an abortion under the penalty of death?

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Nov 22, 2018 14:57:57   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
yhtomit wrote:
Is she being forced to not get an abortion under the penalty of death?


You're slow, aren't you?

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Nov 22, 2018 15:02:06   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
amyinsparta wrote:
Has anyone stopped to think about the number of people added to the population if abortion were prohibited and how many of them would not be able to support a life? Or how many women , along with the pregnancy, would die from homemade attempts to abort, or suicides, or deaths of newborns? How easy it is for this fool to put the onus on the woman. But how typical it is in fundamentalist circles. Look up the stats on abortions to see just how many there are worldwide, and then maybe realize it takes two to tango. 99.999%of females dont get pregnant unless there is a penis involved. And that penis is as much responsible for creation as the vagina. As far as I have been taught, there was only ONE immaculate conception.

I'm sick and tired of old white men trying to dictate to women how to live their lives, especially those old white fundamentalists and the Catholic Church. How easy it is for both to put the blame for all the ills of the world onto the backs of women and minorities, while they themselves can't keep their own sexual wants in check.

Oh yeah, have a great Thanksgiving and give to the poor in spirit and the poor in finances.
Has anyone stopped to think about the number of pe... (show quote)


I don't disagree with this post at all, but it seems like a 180 degree turn from your post on abortion I read yesterday. That one surprised me, because it wasn't a point of view I expected you to take (I'm in no way suggesting you should behave according to my expectations). Did I misunderstand the post I read yesterday? Am I misunderstanding this post? You're obviously not obligated, but if you wouldn't mind explaining, I would be appreciative.

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Nov 22, 2018 15:11:46   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Keenan wrote:
At least on the Fux News side they have lost all meaning. I haven't found that to be the case with Maddow. From a fact checking standpoint, there really is no comparison between Hannity and Maddow.


While Rachel frequently puts more emphasis on things than I feel they deserve, and can be accused of attempting to whip her audience into a frenzy, I find her factual statements to be mostly true. Her opinions and conclusions, like everyone's, should not be considered to be absolute fact without some work by the viewer. She like every TV personality, needs to keep an audience. She is very intelligent, and very informed, and one can learn a lot from her show, but one should never be so lazy as to not check other sources as well. Hannity is nothing like that.

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Nov 22, 2018 15:16:29   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Keenan wrote:
So I take it you are an enthusiastic supporter of giving the death penalty to women who have abortions. Got it. Not the least bit surprised, Rac.

What would be your preferred method? A public hanging or cutting her head off surrounded by angry mobs, like they do in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan?


What, is stoning out of fashion these days? Eyesore believes in anything he believes will upset liberals. If he was for it yesterday, but today liberals support it, he will be against it today. If Trump were to call himself a Muslim, and proclaim the merits of Islam, so would eyesore.

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Nov 22, 2018 15:21:21   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
I see you are once again making assumptions out of thin air, where did I say I was an "enthusiastic" supporter of this proposed law? I see you refused to address the fact that an assailant who murders a pregnant woman can by charged with double murder at ANY stage of pregnancy, why?


I'm not sure if that is totally true, but whether it is or not, it shouldn't be. I think killing you should be no different than killing a pregnant woman. It would be a lot easier to understand, but still just as wrong.

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Nov 22, 2018 15:25:02   #
Rose42
 
Keenan wrote:
Yea, the fact that the American Taliban GOP believes so fervently in putting women to death who are raped and get an abortion...that they actually are genuinely attempting to make it the law of the land with a straight face...is a subject so uninteresting and immaterial...that it isn't even worth anybody's time to discuss...


The entire GOP? Sounds like another lie...

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Nov 22, 2018 15:28:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Keenan wrote:
You're slow, aren't you?


That really isn't a fair question to ask a "slow" person. At least in this case, he obviously doesn't know.

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Nov 22, 2018 15:29:25   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Rose42 wrote:
The entire GOP? Sounds like another lie...


Really? Then how do you think it passed the legislature, Rose? Every GOP rep voted for it.


Oh yea, I almost forgot, I'm still waiting for you to admit that you made up that bullcrap about Tahoe homeowners being stopped from raking their pine needles. It appears that you forgot again, but fortunately, I haven't.

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Nov 22, 2018 15:29:59   #
Rose42
 
amyinsparta wrote:
Has anyone stopped to think about the number of people added to the population if abortion were prohibited and how many of them would not be able to support a life? Or how many women , along with the pregnancy, would die from homemade attempts to abort, or suicides, or deaths of newborns? How easy it is for this fool to put the onus on the woman. But how typical it is in fundamentalist circles. Look up the stats on abortions to see just how many there are worldwide, and then maybe realize it takes two to tango. 99.999%of females dont get pregnant unless there is a penis involved. And that penis is as much responsible for creation as the vagina. As far as I have been taught, there was only ONE immaculate conception.

I'm sick and tired of old white men trying to dictate to women how to live their lives, especially those old white fundamentalists and the Catholic Church. How easy it is for both to put the blame for all the ills of the world onto the backs of women and minorities, while they themselves can't keep their own sexual wants in check.

Oh yeah, have a great Thanksgiving and give to the poor in spirit and the poor in finances.
Has anyone stopped to think about the number of pe... (show quote)


Abortion for societal convenience? I agree the man is just as responsible but its a lot easier for them to run away.

I am not for abortion but I'm not for the death penalty for someone who has one either.

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Nov 22, 2018 15:59:19   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
While Rachel frequently puts more emphasis on things than I feel they deserve, and can be accused of attempting to whip her audience into a frenzy, I find her factual statements to be mostly true. Her opinions and conclusions, like everyone's, should not be considered to be absolute fact without some work by the viewer. She like every TV personality, needs to keep an audience. She is very intelligent, and very informed, and one can learn a lot from her show, but one should never be so lazy as to not check other sources as well. Hannity is nothing like that.
While Rachel frequently puts more emphasis on thin... (show quote)



Hannity is an entertainment show not a news show, the screaming is hard to contend with.

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Nov 22, 2018 16:07:30   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
Hannity is an entertainment show not a news show, the screaming is hard to contend with.


If you watch him for entertainment and he entertains you, cool. I don't think most of his followers are in on the joke.

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