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Nov 13, 2018 09:24:39   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
kenArchi wrote:
Does it matter if I am using a studio or on camera flash?
They do put out an instant burst of light right?
And will a flash meter read the f-stop output?
And can you not adjust the flash from full power to 1/128th power?


Most modern cameras and strobes have electrical contacts that automatically determine the exposure. My old Canon SX20IS accepts my Speedlight 580EXII for my 7D... looks silly, strobe is nearly as big as the camera, but, it works very well. Both cameras have electrical contacts and 'recognise' the strobe. I still use the SX20IS... at short distances, it projects a grid on the object to focus on. With either the on camera strobe or the Speedlight, I can take photos at 10' or 15' in total darkness. Works great for fire investigations, etc.

Strobes used to have a guide number that you divided this number by the distance and this yielded the f-stop.

Shutter speed was sync'd for strobe and was often in the order of 1/125 second. Shutter speed should not be adjusted outside of the sync time. The f-stop was the only item that had to be adjusted to allow the light from the measured flash to achieve a proper exposure.

As strobes developed they had sensors that measured the reflected light and 'clamped' the flash so the exposure was correct. Early ones just 'dumped' the remaining capacitor charge. Newer strobes saved the charge for the next shot and effectively extended the battery life.

Dik

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Nov 13, 2018 09:29:44   #
flightdog
 
Geeze dude,
Why do combative? These folks are trying to help you...

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Nov 13, 2018 10:15:07   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
There is no easy answer to your question. I use YN460 manual flashes; they go from full power all the way down to 1/64th power (if I remember rightly!).

It's hard to comprehend this, but your shutter speed, aside from the flash sync speed, has nothing to do with the amount of light your camera will record on your subject in flash photography. The flash pops for only a fraction of the time your shutter will be open. The shutter speed affects only ambient (background) light. If you don't believe me, then shoot a photo at 1/200th and 1/60th with the same f/stop. The ambient lighting will be different (darker and lighter), but your subject will be lit the same.

The f/stop determines the amount of flash your camera will receive. Using the same flash power, I can make my subject brighter by opening the aperture or I can make it darker by decreasing the aperture. If you use a constant f/stop, then you will have adjust the flash output instead of the f/stop.

Using my YN460s, at your f/5.6, I would set my speed light at 1/2 power and work from there, either adjusting the aperture or the flash power; in your case, because you specify the aperture at f/5.6, I would have to adjust the flash power, usually decreasing it.

Once you grasp the basics of flash photography, you can usually determine the flash output (based on your f/stop) in three experimental shots.

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Nov 13, 2018 10:19:55   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
kenArchi wrote:
Does it matter if I am using a studio or on camera flash?
They do put out an instant burst of light right?
And will a flash meter read the f-stop output?
And can you not adjust the flash from full power to 1/128th power?


Yes, it matters if you are using a studio strobe. The studio strobe puts out a lot more light than a speed light.

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Nov 13, 2018 10:26:02   #
sailor2545 Loc: Victoria, BC
 
kenArchi wrote:
Does it matter if I am using a studio or on camera flash?
They do put out an instant burst of light right?
And will a flash meter read the f-stop output?
And can you not adjust the flash from full power to 1/128th power?


don't be such a fool. just give him the info and he may be able to help ypu

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Nov 13, 2018 10:44:52   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
kenArchi wrote:
When I set my camera at f-5.6, 1/60 second to take a picture of my subject, what f-stop should I set my flash?


I am curious as to why you won't tell us the brand, model of the flash your using? Any reason? Just asking it might help us answer your question.

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Nov 13, 2018 10:53:02   #
zzzynick Loc: Colorado
 
You have a computer, right.
Google f/stop and flash.
See what comes up.
Read.

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Nov 13, 2018 11:41:15   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Pardon me, but I've never seen an F-stop on a flash. There is no aperture on a flash, only on a lens. Manual flash settings are either calculated (as in the 'old' days) or determined by using a flash meter and setting the appropriate F-stop on the lens. I would suggest getting yourself a book on Flash Photography and reading through that to gain more understanding. Modern on-camera flash units, often called speedlights, and modern cameras, mostly control flash automatically and, for the most part, do a good job. Tweaking makes things much better but more knowledge is needed to accomplish that. Best of luck.

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Nov 13, 2018 12:01:55   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
kenArchi wrote:
Does it matter if I am using a studio or on camera flash?
They do put out an instant burst of light right?
And will a flash meter read the f-stop output?
And can you not adjust the flash from full power to 1/128th power?


Does it matter if I am using a studio or on camera flash? Yes, as the power differs greatly. Studio strobes are much more powerful therefore they are more versatile.
They do put out an instant burst of light right? Yes, both do but that doesn't mean they are the same. For instance, some can be used for High Speed Sync, some can't
And will a flash meter read the f-stop output? Not usually, I think you'll get a distance readout not and f-stop readout. (on a speedlite)
And can you not adjust the flash from full power to 1/128th power? Yes, as far as I know both studio and speedlites can have the power adjusted in the same way.

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Nov 13, 2018 12:24:36   #
Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada
 
kenArchi wrote:
As I have said the camera is set at f-5.6 and 1/60 second. All settings are manual.
If I was using settings in auto and TTL I would not be asking this question.
Surely, you being an accomplished and experienced photographer you would know and understand flash photography would be able to help me out?
As I am still on the amerature page.


There are three factors that determine the proper power setting on the flash. Aperture (F/5.6) . . . distance from flash to subject . . . and ISO (the amount of light needed for perfect exposure)
The information you are offering is incomplete.

If you are using the flash in manual mode, the first thing you have to do is determine a GUIDE NUMBER for the flash based on the particular flash unit and the ISO being used. Normally adjusting exposure on manual flash is done by adjusting the aperture . . but of course adjusting any of the three factors will work, just not as accurately or conveniently. Once the guide number is established, it is as simple as dividing the guide number by the distance in feet from the flash to subject to determine F/stop. (Example: Guide number of 115 . . . distance from subject 10 feet would be a setting of F/11)

Hope that is what you were looking for.

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Nov 13, 2018 12:30:25   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
kenArchi wrote:
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And will a flash meter read the f-stop output?
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jeep_daddy wrote:

And will a flash meter read the f-stop output? Not usually, I think you'll get a distance readout not and f-stop readout. (on a speedlite)


Al the flash meters I have used give a direct f/stop reading:
Minolta Flash Meter IV
Minolta Auto Meter IVF
Sekonic L-358

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Nov 13, 2018 12:30:34   #
BebuLamar
 
cjc2 wrote:
Pardon me, but I've never seen an F-stop on a flash. There is no aperture on a flash, only on a lens. Manual flash settings are either calculated (as in the 'old' days) or determined by using a flash meter and setting the appropriate F-stop on the lens. I would suggest getting yourself a book on Flash Photography and reading through that to gain more understanding. Modern on-camera flash units, often called speedlights, and modern cameras, mostly control flash automatically and, for the most part, do a good job. Tweaking makes things much better but more knowledge is needed to accomplish that. Best of luck.
Pardon me, but I've never seen an F-stop on a flas... (show quote)


Older auto flashes that use the sensor on the flash rather than TTL have the aperture setting. You set the ISO and aperture on the flash and then match the same setting on the camera and the flash will automatically give you the correct exposure.

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Nov 13, 2018 12:37:36   #
wetreed
 
kenArchi wrote:
As I have said the camera is set at f-5.6 and 1/60 second. All settings are manual.
If I was using settings in auto and TTL I would not be asking this question.
Surely, you being an accomplished and experienced photographer you would know and understand flash photography would be able to help me out?
As I am still on the amerature page.


Your attitude is less than desirable. Learn how to spell, amerature is not a word . You are very confused about flash photography and need a lot of help. If you were a nicer person I would offer advice. I do think you should grow up a little.

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Nov 13, 2018 13:03:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
kenArchi wrote:
Using any type of flash off camera in manual settings does it matter which brand or type I should use?
Probably not.

Do they have different powers from each other?
Yes they do.

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Nov 13, 2018 13:23:26   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
kenArchi wrote:
Does it matter if I am using a studio or on camera flash?
They do put out an instant burst of light right?
And will a flash meter read the f-stop output?
And can you not adjust the flash from full power to 1/128th power?

Since you’ve said all settings are manual, of course it doesn’t matter what flash you’re using. Set it to the same f/stop as your lens (f/stops are not a camera setting), divide the flash’s guide number by the f/stop to get the correct distance, or divide the guide number by the distance to get the correct f/number..
Flash meters are more useful for studio flash - my experience has been that guide numbers are generally accurate.
Not all flashes have variable power settings.

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