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Aug 16, 2012 08:54:41   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
Drigby1 wrote:
I have PSE 10 combined with various filters from Alien Skin and also use Perfect Photo Suite 6.1 (5 wonderful apps) from onOne Software.


Thanks for your comments Drigby... I think PSE10 will be the one. They are on Ebay starting @ $59 USD.

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Aug 16, 2012 08:56:21   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
roger2012 wrote:
I have PSE 10 and find very adequate for my needs.CS6 is ment for professional photographers hence the cost involved you would have to be taking images for a living to warrant having it.


Thanks Roger, it seems the consensus goes in 10's favour.

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Aug 16, 2012 08:57:33   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
sodapop wrote:
I suggest PSE 10. I have it and it does virtually all the items you mentioned that you wanted to do. MUCH less cost as well

Darryl88 wrote:
Hi all I'm hoping someone can help me out with a bit of a dilemma. I want to start shooting in RAW & process my photos myself. I have Digital Photo Professional v3.11 that came with my canon but I want to do more than just convert my RAW photos to a different format........ but, I have no idea which is the better program to use. Can someone advise me which is the most suitable program for a new (but keen to learn) user. I was about to buy Elements 10 and someone said I should use Adobe CS6 (or whatever version its up to), but they couldn't tell me why! I would like to learn the whole gamut - layers, masking, removing objects, skys etc. Help please..
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Thank you for your advice Sodapop....I will be taking it.

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Aug 16, 2012 08:59:26   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
Fstop12 wrote:
Darryl88 wrote:
Hi all I'm hoping someone can help me out with a bit of a dilemma. I want to start shooting in RAW & process my photos myself. I have Digital Photo Professional v3.11 that came with my canon but I want to do more than just convert my RAW photos to a different format........ but, I have no idea which is the better program to use. Can someone advise me which is the most suitable program for a new (but keen to learn) user. I was about to buy Elements 10 and someone said I should use Adobe CS6 (or whatever version its up to), but they couldn't tell me why! I would like to learn the whole gamut - layers, masking, removing objects, skys etc. Help please..
Hi all I'm hoping someone can help me out with a b... (show quote)


My advice to you would be to start with Photoshop Elements 10. It's relatively inexpensive and will afford you the chance to see if you really want to go down this rabbit hole! I have been using adobe products for years, have upgraded along the way when new bell's and whistles have been added. I am still discovering new things to do with CS5. Like anything else, it will take practice and dedication to learn either of these two programs.
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Thanks Fstop.... I don't know how much CS is worth but I can get '10' for almost pocket money and that's the way I will run.

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Aug 16, 2012 09:01:34   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
krispix wrote:
I agree with all the previous postings.
Elements is fantastic for the price. It will do most of the stuff that CS does and is a lot more user-friendly.
On the plus side, if you buy PSE 10, Adobe will offer you a good upgrade deal to CS6, IF you think you need it. Although I doubt that you will.
You can download 30-day trials of both these pieces of software. Give them both a try and make up your mind at leisure.


Thanks for your input Krispix - I will be buying '10' tomorrow.

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Aug 16, 2012 09:05:49   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
warrior wrote:
PSE 10 with Topaz plug in


Thank you Warrior....it does seem that '10' has won the popularity program. I have got an old version of Elements which came with my camera but it's version 2 so I will buy '10' tomorrow.

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Aug 16, 2012 09:08:37   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
Iduno wrote:
Lightroom 4 and PSE10 is my recommendation. LR should handle the bulk of everything you need to do then PSE for nurturing your more artistic side. You can buy both for less money than CS6.


Thanks for your input Iduno.....a couple of hours ago I would have said 'Iduno' what to buy but now I do. I will be buying '10' tomorrow.

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Aug 16, 2012 09:09:43   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
ata3001 wrote:
Iduno wrote:
Lightroom 4 and PSE10 is my recommendation. LR should handle the bulk of everything you need to do then PSE for nurturing your more artistic side. You can buy both for less money than CS6.

I agree with this setup.


Thanks for the advice ata - I will be following it.

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Aug 16, 2012 09:12:38   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
CanonShot wrote:
Iduno wrote:
Lightroom 4 and PSE10 is my recommendation. LR should handle the bulk of everything you need to do then PSE for nurturing your more artistic side. You can buy both for less money than CS6.


Ditto this one. This is a dymanic PP duo. Would suggest you start with PSE10 and add LR4. Prices for PSE10 seem to be dropping and LR4 won't break your wallet. Regardless, what you get with these two will peak your "capture" curiosity.


Thanks canon, Ebay has '10' starting from $59 USD ($72nz) and I will get it tomorrow. I have just been given a copy of Lightroom 3.6 so I will look at that as well.

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Aug 16, 2012 09:14:22   #
Darryl88 Loc: New Zealand
 
violet.shelley wrote:
I have PS 10 and think it is great. I take photos for fun, am not a professional and think unless you are or have money to spare then PS 10 does all you want and more. Have fun.


Thanks for your input violet - it seems '10' wins by a long shot.. I will purchase a copy tomorrow....and then comes the learning curve lol.

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Aug 16, 2012 09:26:39   #
krispix Loc: London - UK
 
Darryl88 wrote:
Thanks for your input violet - it seems '10' wins by a long shot.. I will purchase a copy tomorrow....and then comes the learning curve lol.


Yes the learning curve is steep, but the more you play with it the easier it becomes until you reach the point when you look at an image and say, "I know what to do with that."
The beauty of RAW is that you keep the image as shot and it really doesn't matter what you do to it in PSE you can always go back and start fresh. So, open up a RAW image and go crazy wild to get a feel of what the functions are all about, then go back and try something different, and keep on doing that for as long as it takes. You will discover that they are several different ways of doing the same thing.
One small tip; Wait until you've finished all your post production before you sharpen the image then save it.

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Aug 16, 2012 10:08:57   #
Stevieboy Loc: West Palm Beach, Florida
 
Elements plus the Topaz bundle is a terrific combination

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Aug 16, 2012 10:47:29   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
I got CS5 when it first came out, but wish I would have just kept my Elements and kept upgrading every other year. If I could only have that money back to get better glass. OH, the mistakes I've made!!!

In my humble opinion, I'd avoid getting a program from Ebay. Did that once, and it was a bootleg copy, caused real problems when I tried to register it. Amazon is selling new copies, free shipping, today only for the discounted price.

Lastly, on the subject. Elements 10 does almost everything CS-5 does, including the awesome content aware fill, but is more user friendly. I have things like puppet warp, that I've never successfully figured out on CS-5. Figure Elements 12 will have it, and it will be easier.

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Aug 16, 2012 12:01:52   #
rebride
 
To get started with Raw you could download Picasa for free. Automatically opens Raw ready for editing.
You can download a free trial of Photoshop Elements and/or Lightroom to get a taste for how they operate. I have both and prefer Lightroom. Actually I now use Cyberlink PhotoDirector which is Lightroom clone.
For layers try Elements 10 first (that will be enough of a learning curve) before CS6.

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Aug 16, 2012 13:13:34   #
Dun1 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
If money is not a factor, and if you want software you can use far into your post processing future Lightroom is a great choice, and using CS as your external editor. The Lightroom workflow and catalog is great and in many cases you will be able to perform most of the corrections and enhancements you wish in Lightroom. In case you find that you want to do more heavy processing CS would be my recommendation. In the event that you only decide to purchase Photoshop Elements, if you do decide to upgrade to CS the cost of the upgrade version is less than the original price of CS sans Photoshop Elements.

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