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Oct 25, 2018 18:34:21   #
Wags Loc: Mequon, WI
 
Thanks, Haydon. I appreciate your comments and ideas.

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Oct 25, 2018 18:43:33   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Haydon wrote:
If you can wait it out I wouldn't be surprised if you see some Black Friday deals on the D750 this year. They always have something at that time of year up until Christmas.


I believe that the $1400 is Nikon's Black Friday deal with an early start. Here is a link...

https://www.adorama.com/g/nikon-dslr-camera-sale-holiday-2018

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Oct 25, 2018 18:46:42   #
Wags Loc: Mequon, WI
 
Thanks, Larry. This discussion has really helped. I’m going to do some more research, especially on the D750. That might be a good option.

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Oct 25, 2018 18:53:09   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Haydon wrote:
Dave, if anything I agree with your choice. Your opinion was well rounded. If the OP is hooked on FF I think the best value is a D750 for low light.

Many endorse their own purchases that may not be optimized for the intended use of the OP. I'm sure a 200 F2 isn't on the table :)


I have been watching your posts for quite some time and I respect your opinions, so there is indeed no argument!

I spend a lot of time trying to learn my equipment and with my short experience, I try to imply that simply buying a better camera may not give you what you are hoping for, particularly if you have not really pushed your existing camera and your methodology to the point where you are not totally pleased with your results. I am not at all implying that the OP has not done this, but rather to not expect some magical results because of the capabilities a new piece of equipment offers.

It's all good, just a possible consideration before leaping. We must be happy!

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Oct 25, 2018 18:58:19   #
Haydon
 
DaveO wrote:
I have been watching your posts for quite some time and I respect your opinions, so there is indeed no argument!

I spend a lot of time trying to learn my equipment and with my short experience, I try to imply that simply buying a better camera may not give you what you are hoping for, particularly if you have not really pushed your existing camera and your methodology to the point where you are not totally pleased with your results. I am not at all implying that the OP has not done this, but rather to not expect some magical results because of the capabilities a new piece of equipment offers.

It's all good, just a possible consideration before leaping. We must be happy!
I have been watching your posts for quite some tim... (show quote)


That's a great assessment Dave. All is good sir!

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Oct 25, 2018 19:06:11   #
Muddyvalley Loc: McMinnville, Oregon
 
Haydon wrote:
You might want to check the following link.

https://www.productexpert.com/best-low-light-camera/
https://www.theolive.com/reviews/best-low-light-cameras/

Remember, people are going to patronize their own purchases.


I see they both agree with my observations regarding ISO as I posted above. The different Nikons all have different strong & weak points. I also feel the D750 also seems to be a little quicker at finding focus on small moving bugs. I'll never regret buying the D850. I like them both but almost always pick up the D850 as it is better for what I've been shooting.

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Oct 26, 2018 06:51:44   #
ELNikkor
 
If you like and use the built-in flash and don't want to mess with getting out a flash and sticking it on your camera whenever the grandkids are being cute in the house, the D750 or D810 are your options. Good as the D850 is, you will always need some kind of external flash to get out and stick on and adjust etc. I agree with other posters that the D750 is probably your most reasonable option, and Black Friday may be a good time to get one, possibly with a 24-120 lens for under 2K.

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Oct 26, 2018 07:05:15   #
jr168
 
The D7200 should be capable of capturing images in a school gym. Would the D850 be better? Probably. The biggest difference is just how it would handle the iso noise. The majority of school gyms have horrible light. The key is to make sure you are using a lens that is at least f/2.8 and shooting it wide open at 2.8, having a shutter speed of 1\800 to 1\1000, then adjusting your iso for exposure. I am usually in the 6400-10000 range. Try to avoid using the A or S modes or even the auto iso since the light/ dark jerseys and the varied lights from the scoreboard or scorer's table can throw off your settings. Hope this helps. Good luck.

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Oct 26, 2018 07:13:08   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Wags wrote:
This is my 2nd post, and I have truly gotten to enjoy all the other postings. I look forward to receiving and opening this email every day. So, I need some help/advice. The majority of my photography is shooting grandkids sports and school events and landscapes. I currently use a Nikon D7200, and my lenses are the Sigma 18-35, 1.8; the Tamron 24-70, 2.4; the Tamron 70-200, 2.4; and the Tamron 18-400, 5.6. I also use the Tamron 150-600 at times and the Nikon 105 for macro photography. Typically, when shooting a soccer or baseball game outside, I have great success with either the 24-70 or the 70-200. I can get some really sharp images. On a cloudy day I might have to adjust the ISO a bit, or even go to Auto ISO. But there is almost always enough light outside. However, when I go indoors, it’s a different story. I will shoot in a variety of gyms and trying to freeze movement, at a basketball game for example, is really difficult. And going to a higher ISO for those types of shots just doesn’t give me what I’m looking for. I almost always use a monopod or tripod when I shoot indoors.

The question, then, is: Would I have better results with the Nikon D850? From everything that I have read so far, it seems that the D850 is better designed for the type of indoor photography that I like to do, and landscapes as well. I would really welcome any and all advice. Thanks!
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I believe you would be better served by the Nikon D500. It also has the same focusing system as the D850 and D5. Plus, your getting more reach AND the D500 has a focusing system called GROUP AUTO FOCUS which the D7200 has not. As long as the cluster of 4 squares are on your subject you are in focus. PLUS, the D500 is much better at high speeds than the D7200, so you can crank it up and hand hold with your 70-200. AND, the D500 is currently on sale until tomorrow and Nikon throws in a free batter grip, plus B&H throws in a memory card and camera bag. Hurry, this black friday deal ends tomorrow.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1214161-REG/nikon_1559_d500_dslr_camera_body.html?sts=pi

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Oct 26, 2018 07:57:06   #
GED Loc: North central Pa
 
Wags wrote:
Yes, I always shoot in RAW. And use Lightroom for any post production. But I have yet to upgrade from
Lightroom 6, so if I do go to the D850, I will need to go the LR subscription route because I don’t think my current version supports the D850.


The latest version of Ligthroom 6 will support the Nikon D850, it is what I use. The version is 6.14

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Oct 26, 2018 08:15:19   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Wags wrote:
This is my 2nd post, and I have truly gotten to enjoy all the other postings. I look forward to receiving and opening this email every day. So, I need some help/advice. The majority of my photography is shooting grandkids sports and school events and landscapes. I currently use a Nikon D7200, and my lenses are the Sigma 18-35, 1.8; the Tamron 24-70, 2.4; the Tamron 70-200, 2.4; and the Tamron 18-400, 5.6. I also use the Tamron 150-600 at times and the Nikon 105 for macro photography. Typically, when shooting a soccer or baseball game outside, I have great success with either the 24-70 or the 70-200. I can get some really sharp images. On a cloudy day I might have to adjust the ISO a bit, or even go to Auto ISO. But there is almost always enough light outside. However, when I go indoors, it’s a different story. I will shoot in a variety of gyms and trying to freeze movement, at a basketball game for example, is really difficult. And going to a higher ISO for those types of shots just doesn’t give me what I’m looking for. I almost always use a monopod or tripod when I shoot indoors.

The question, then, is: Would I have better results with the Nikon D850? From everything that I have read so far, it seems that the D850 is better designed for the type of indoor photography that I like to do, and landscapes as well. I would really welcome any and all advice. Thanks!
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The D7200 holds its own pretty well in low light. You don't say what it is about the higher ISO you don't like. A couple of things to keep in mind. Gyms are one of the hardest places to shoot. With a D750, your Tamron 18-400 is a DX lens and while the D750 has a DX mode, it would be severely limited.

I shoot a lot of my grand kids sports. I bumped from the D7200 to D500, primarily for higher FPS and bigger buffer. the D7200 was my backup for a long time. I recently traded it in for a D750, primarily to shoot portraits and night skies. But anything with movement, I grab the D500. Lately, I've been getting great results with a FX 24-120 on it.

Good luck, they are both great cameras! But you should be able to get good results with that D7200. By the way, you will have to up your ISO in the gym to get high SS, so you may want to shoot RAW and adjust in PP to get the "look" you want. At the end of the day, you can't change physics.

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Oct 26, 2018 08:19:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I've never had any interest in the D8xx series, but I love my D750.

Comparison sites -
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Oct 26, 2018 08:52:49   #
queencitysanta Loc: Charlotte, North Carolina
 
I would go for the D850 over the D750 because you have almost double the pixel count. I went from a D800 to a D750 and regret it. I also had a D7200 but I still like the D800 and can't imagine how much better the D850 must be.

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Oct 26, 2018 09:06:55   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Concerning the comments on reach...if you do the arithmetic, there are more pixels in a D850 image in DX mode or cropped to DX than in the D500, and you have the better optionsfor wide angle if you need it...

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Oct 26, 2018 10:52:45   #
bjprovo Loc: Northeast CT
 
I can't speak to the D7200 but I have a D810 and a D850. I will tell you that the D850 is amazing in high school gymnasiums with a quality 2.8 lens. I use the Nikon lenses but I am sure the others are equally up to the task. The D850 clearly outperforms the D810. I also purchased the turbocharged battery grip to give me 9fps and I have never been more pleased with my sports results. Ultimately it is up to you and whether the expense is worth the return. I am pleased and have never looked back.

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