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Sep 5, 2018 17:34:29   #
le boecere
 
FLYPRP wrote:
Hello everyone,

I'm new here so wanted to do a little introduction before I ask for advice. My name is Jorge, born and raised in Puerto Rico until I was 23, then in 1982 I joined the best military force on earth, the US ARMY and was active for almost 9 years. I always loved photography so my very first check bought me a nice Canon AE-1P and I loved it. I met a beautiful lady in Tacoma, WA in 1985 and guess what, I married her :) Then I was sent to Korea for an overseas tour in 1987 and while over there, I sold my camera and all the gear I had :( with the idea of getting a new model after coming back to the states. Got back to the states and no camera. I got out of the military after being sent to Desert Storm; got busy, started a family, got a job and never bought a nice camera again. I stayed in Tacoma where I live and work now. Have a daughter 22, a son 18 and still no camera and I hope I didn't get you all bored to death, sorry if I did.

Now, I still want to buy myself a "nice" camera. Costco has a Nikon D7500 with two lens bundle for $1599.00 which I think might be a nice set up, but I'm not sure about it. Can you please let me know your thoughts and advise. Thank you all in advance.
Hello everyone, br br I'm new here so wanted to ... (show quote)


Hi Jorge,

I was born and reared in Tacoma, and get back there quite often. Also served 15 months in Korea with the U.S. Army (a very long time, ago).

If your heart is not tied to "Canon", I suggest you take a long and thorough look at mirrorless camera systems. When I left my Canon SLR, I went to a Canon digital travel camera, only to discover that I needed to upgrade, if I wanted to capture images of fast moving objects (like grandkids). Today, I' own both Sony and Fujifilm APS-C cameras, and doubt I'll ever own a DSLR.

My experience FWIW ~ and thank you for your service to our Country.

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Sep 6, 2018 04:59:11   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Bipod wrote:
Who is this "mainstream"? Advertising and PR?

Which laboratory independently tests cameras and printers?
Which independent academic scientists or engineer studies them?
Which peer-reviewed scholarly journal publishes articles about them?
How many of the people who do write about them are paid endorsers?

About the only independent voice is Consumer Reports--and it's budget
is too tiny to even begin to adequately test cameras.

The ultimate source for most of what you hear about camera companies
is the companies themselves. Actually, this is true for the entire
"high tech" sector: few journalists understand the technology, so most
articles in the popular press are little more than re-writes of press releases.

Typical title: "<Company X> Introduces the New <Product Y>".
Or: "Which is the Best Camera Ever <Product X> or <Product Y>?"
(The fact that it might be <Product Z> that hasn't been made for
30 years is *never* mentioned.)

There is no "mainstream": just a carefully orchestrated chorus of
sales talk. Nikon's ad budget in 2001 was $18.2 mn -- that buys a
lot of opinon. Who knows what it is today? Canon's ad budget
is rumored to be even larger.

I hope you realize that people are paid by high-tech companies to
post on-line. And it's pefectly legal (at least in the USA).

The idea that public companies want to increase earnings
is not controversial. Nor is the idea that total camera sales revenue is
dominated by consumer purchases (and that the photography profession
is shrinking). Nor is the idea that the Joe Consumer is probably not the
biggest expert around when it comes to optics, electronics, and embedded
systems--or even photography.

Can people really not know that professional photographres are going
out of business all over the USA? And that camera stores are closing?
And that camera repair shops are closing? And that photo labs are
nearly extinct? Even wedding photogrphers are having a hard time
making ends meet. Obviously, this has had a big impact on camera
manufacturers: the tiny pro market would only support a small company
like Leica, not giant companies like the big Japanese makers.

Even just 20 years ago, I had my passport photo by a profesional
photographer. 50 years ago, people who wanted portraits had them
done in a photographer's studio. Less than 150 years ago, amateur
photographers were rare: photographers were mostly professionals.

Then along came George Eastman. Today the great company he founded ,
Eastman Kodak, is a shadow of its former self. George Eastman
committed suicide in 1932

Everyone knows Kodak for its cheap cameras, but only photographers
know about its excellent R&D labs and technical publications. Who
now publishes hundreds of technical papers? Not Nikon, Canon or Sony.
Prior to the 1950s, Kodak even published the formulas for its developers.
Good luck getting a frimware listing for any of today's digital cameras.

Companies and corporate titans come and go--only art is permanent.
So having an economic system that aims only to produce products
services and not great art is kind of strange. But there are few NEA
grants for photogrphers--and none for camera makers.

As for being cynical, well, there's quite a bit of that around these days,
especially in Washington, DC.
Who is this "mainstream"? Advertising ... (show quote)


Impressive rant. There are plenty of legitimate sources for market, company, and product information. It doesn't take much work to triangulate and corroborate those and come to credible and defensible conclusions.

If you are interested in fact based analysis, that is.

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Sep 6, 2018 13:17:22   #
IBM
 
FLYPRP wrote:
SS319, that was such a long time ago and now with all the new technology, they are all good cameras to me. So I just want something that will be confortable for me to learn. It just happens that costco had that bundle and it looks good and interesting to me.


Your right there all good there is no need to spend more than $300 to $500 for a entry level DSLR of any make as the imeages you take
Will be the same as those taken with a $1500 or a $6000 . My daughter uses her iPhone and her images put most of the pictures I have
Seen from her friends and other source's to shame , I still use a D90 nikons bought new ,and I shoot bald eagles on the wing .I may get a
Higher iso and frame per sec.camera soon, I would get a refurbished camera for around $700 If I were in your shoes the d7200 then in a year or two when you know all there is to know about your camera and your still wanting a new one , then go for the $1500 job but buy it
Refurbished for half that , my second d90 was a used one for $400 and that is the one I use for eagles ,the lens has never been off it for five years or more ,

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Sep 11, 2018 15:14:37   #
IBM
 
rpavich wrote:
Asking the OP why he doesn't stay with film is an insult to you?

That's the dumbest thing I ever heard (at least today so far)

Film isn't expensive nor is it hard to find and hard to get developed or printed.


No your right ,if you compare it with more film . I can shoot 500 hundered or more images on a card and develop all of them at Costco for peanuts , it would cost a bundle to buy film and do the same amount of images.

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