More memories are coming back seeing the military patches.
Jim-Pops wrote:
Nothing good came out that war. Doctors said I am one affected by agent orange, Prostate cancer. Around a lot of aircraft that dropped the stuff. I think I am fine now, will keep getting checkups the rest of my life.
Lung cancer, prostate cancer, thyroid cancer and Type. II diabetes. Plus high this, low that. I knew that brown shit dripping off the trees wasn’t Geritol.
I wasn’t in the military. My dad did his time in Korea. Just reading this thread. U Guys are the BEST. God Bless ALL of YOU. THANKS ! ! !
berchman wrote:
I've visited Vietnam twice and it *is* a beautiful country. Kennedy didn't learn from the French experience there and sent in troops justifying it with the discredited domino theory. A lot of people on both sides were killed or messed up by agent orange; a lot of cultural treasures were destroyed and with what result? Vietnam is Communist and our "friend."
I know many Vietnamese would hardily disagree with you. They say to never trust the Communist
Vietnam, 1968-'69--199th Lt. Inf. Bde, at Redcather Base, east end of Long Binh Base facility. Flew Huey's and OH-6A'.
1971-'72, 213th Avn. Co., Phu Loi, north of Saigon. Flew Ch-47 Chinooks.
Thanks for posting the memories. They bring back a lot of them. Yes, Vietnam is a beautiful country, but there were some drawbacks to being there back then. I've never had a desire for a return visit, though.
That is an interesting picture of the CH-54 "flying crane" sling loading what was left of a UH-21. By the way, the Jolly Green Giant was a different helicopter and was a Navy bird. The army never had the Jolly Green.
And for all you other vets, thanks for your service, too.
Wingpilot wrote:
Vietnam, 1968-'69--199th Lt. Inf. Bde, at Redcather Base, east end of Long Binh Base facility. Flew Huey's and OH-6A'.
1971-'72, 213th Avn. Co., Phu Loi, north of Saigon. Flew Ch-47 Chinooks.
Thanks for posting the memories. They bring back a lot of them. Yes, Vietnam is a beautiful country, but there were some drawbacks to being there back then. I've never had a desire for a return visit, though.
That is an interesting picture of the CH-54 "flying crane" sling loading what was left of a UH-21. By the way, the Jolly Green Giant was a different helicopter and was a Navy bird. The army never had the Jolly Green.
And for all you other vets, thanks for your service, too.
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You are 100% correct Not the Joly Green Giant it was the Flying Crane. Wish I could correct the other post. Wasn't the Joly Green Giant the C130 gun ship? My memory
BTW I only flew in the Chinook one time. As I remember it when it started I thought it would shake itself apart and when up to speed the loudest aircraft I ever flew in.
"Welcome Home!" Vietnam vets.... We didn't hear that often enough.
daddybear wrote:
Lung cancer, prostate cancer, thyroid cancer and Type. II diabetes. Plus high this, low that. I knew that brown shit dripping off the trees wasn’t Geritol.
So sad that that stuff got to you that bad. So far as they say I only got prostate cancer. Had it removed then came back and needed 40 treatments of radiation, been good since.
Stay safe my friend.
Jim-Pops wrote:
You are 100% correct Not the Joly Green Giant it was the Flying Crane. Wish I could correct the other post. Wasn't the Joly Green Giant the C130 gun ship? My memory
BTW I only flew in the Chinook one time. As I remember it when it started I thought it would shake itself apart and when up to speed the loudest aircraft I ever flew in.
The Jolly Green Giant was another Sikorsky helicopter. It was a bit smaller than ther CH-54 Flying Crane and had a full fuselage for carrying troops and internal cargo. It also had an extended fuel range and was use extensively for rescuing downed pilots and getting them to safety.
Yes, the Chinook was/is a very loud helicopter. I believe the sound level in the cockpit was 120+ db, due to the bottom of the front transmission being in the ceiling of the cockpit. Could be part of the reason I have a high frequency hearing loss now that the military won't admit to and denied a disability claim. Fortunately they did grant me a 100% disability for the prostate cancer deemed a result of exposure to agent orange.
Jim-Pops wrote:
So sad that that stuff got to you that bad. So far as they say I only got prostate cancer. Had it removed then came back and needed 40 treatments of radiation, been good since.
Stay safe my friend.
I didn't have to have it removed. Apparently the tumor was far enough advanced that they didn't want to risk anything, so I also had the 40 radiation treatments, and now I'm on a 3 year regimen of hormone deprivation therapy that starves the cancer cells of testosterone. So far so good, and the tumor is gone,or at least they can't feel it. PSA's at an undetectible level. I'll be glad when this is over as I'm really not fond of the frequent hot flashes I get on a daily basis. Only two more years to go. Glad you're doing well too.
Wingpilot wrote:
The Jolly Green Giant was another Sikorsky helicopter. It was a bit smaller than their CH-54 Flying Crane and had a full fuselage for carrying troops and internal cargo. It also had an extended fuel range and was use extensively for rescuing downed pilots and getting them to safety.
Yes, the Chinook was/is a very loud helicopter. I believe the sound level in the cockpit was 120+ db, due to the bottom of the front transmission being in the ceiling of the cockpit. Could be part of the reason I have a high frequency hearing loss now that the military won't admit to and denied a disability claim. Fortunately they did grant me a 100% disability for the prostate cancer deemed a result of exposure to agent orange.
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Thanks for correcting me on the Jolly Green Giant.
I know the Chinook is the reason for your Hearing Loss, as I said noise was terrible.
Just Googled this:
Sound pressure is measured in decibels (dB). ... With extended exposure, noises that reach a decibel level of 85 can cause permanent damage to the hair cells in the inner ear, leading to hearing loss. Many common sounds may be louder than you think… A typical conversation occurs at 60 dB – not loud enough to cause damage.
Now at 120+? I lost me hearing because of something else and only understand 70% of what I hear even with my hearing aids. I can only guess what you are going through.
I used to tease my Dad about his hearing loss and now I know what an ass I was for doing it.
Thank you for posting these. I was in An Khe in 1969. Four years ago my wife and I returned and spent 14 days traveling from Hanoi to Saigon. Beautiful country, great people who loved Americans.
YES, Vietnam is a beautiful country. Sadly, the TET-68 offensive kinda, sorta left a "not so nice" impression for me. I went back several years ago with a few buddies. The base of a mountain (Mountain of the Black Virgin) in Tay Ninh where we had one hell of a battle is now a large restaurant, complete with outdoor seating. Things change, but bitter memories remain.
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