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Aug 31, 2018 14:37:20   #
Lynxhe Loc: PA
 
Just to throw this out there: if the "kid" is in foster care, then you are in serious trouble with a bunch of people plus the STATE. ASK, Ask!!

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Aug 31, 2018 16:51:40   #
sv3noKin51E
 
It's sad, that there;ll always be sick people who misuse photographs, video or whatever is handy, to take advantage of others. It doesn't matter whether a camera, striking a match, a kitchen knife, or a vehicle is used, someone will always warp something, normally not harmful, to create problems for themselves and/or others. It's better to listen to the positive voice inside or above, choose the light and to ignore the dark side. The majority of photographers are good guys and live to make beautiful images. Most don't have time for the dark side, unless it has to do with color balancing. Someday, those who walk the dark side land in a prison of their own making. (Robin William's 'One Hour Photo' 2002 comes to mind).

When I was still shooting film I used a local lab, there were several, all gone now. I never had to worry about who was inspecting my images with ulterior motives; they'd never do hinky things with anyone's work. Now, everyone's images are automatically being uploaded from afar, into clouds, so the owners can download them. We still use a local printing service so we don't have to upload, except onto their printer. Our drives, images and backups are locally archived and encrypted, and the workstation doesn't go online.

The present insanity of fake news, manipulated sound bites/speech and images, is detrimental to all. Like the gent who took the shot of the pretty girl from his hotel room, maybe he'll be fine, and get out with his hide, and the secret chinese dark forces will be too busy to nab him. All hotel rooms in china are continually surveilled and monitored, in case they need to work a honey pot. Compared to the Brits, the US, or any other nation, the Chinese have taken the dark state of the art to a Minority Report level, complete with DNA, remote retinal scans and street level face/body recognition. Before you leave the airport to go to your hotel, the first time you walk on the street, their systems have you, and they can nab you in minutes. A few months ago, a Brit reported on how he allowed their police to try their system on him, to demonstrate their capabilities; in real time. A bit of sarcasm, but that was a real challenge, to find tall, light-skinned westerner, among all the shorter chinese folks. He lasted 10 minutes and a squad came up to him. The goal is for their AI and other systems to be superior to any on the planet.

On the lighter side, they haven't been able to scan one's thoughts yet; try not to look like the cat that ate the canary. If your conscience or that little voice tells you to 'do this/don't do that,' better heed the advice. Drat; that voice seduced me into a GAS attack; I discovered a mint condition Nikkor 300mm AiS for the D700, and there was no choice, the voice and low price forced me to buy it. Like most of the old Nikon battleship models, the focus it solid and optically it's sharp as a tack, not as heavy as the 200-400mm. Prepping for bird and bunnies this weekend, I took a very long distance shot of my pretty Wife (since I have a license for that). Her smile filled the screen and she was pleased with the result. I've stayed out of trouble another day. Happy shooting. sv

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Aug 31, 2018 17:56:41   #
carlbsc
 
Think about it, how would you react at a gathering if someone took a picture of your child singled out from the crowd? I'd dang sure want to know what his/her intentions were. Ask before the shot, or ask after the shot. If they somewhat question, offer to delete. Be sure to tell them the picture is not for commercial use.

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Aug 31, 2018 18:44:54   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I just don't do it. I even ask to take pictures of a dog when the owner can be identified.

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Aug 31, 2018 18:47:05   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Does Your Dog Bite?
Ouch, he bit me!

It’s Not My Dog...

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Aug 31, 2018 19:57:16   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
That would be one of the dumbest laws but almost all states have useless laws on the books. So if I wanted to take a picture of an orange grove in FL that would be illegal???? Doesn't make any sense.

I think NJ has a law that makes it illegal to take pictures from the shoulder of a road...probably due to public safety?


It hasn't passed yet, but I read in the news where someone is trying to push it through.....

You are right, it be another dumb law. It includes all ag in Florida if passed.

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Aug 31, 2018 20:00:44   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I would not take Wikipedia as the best or final word on any subject personally...


Sometimes they are right...... this is one... from the way I understand the law..... the laws do vary slightly in some states..

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Aug 31, 2018 20:07:32   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
frankraney wrote:
It hasn't passed yet, but I read in the news where someone is trying to push it through.....

You are right, it be another dumb law. It includes all ag in Florida if passed.


NY is not exempt of course - Mayor Bloomberg tried to get 1) Congestion pricing (aka local toll streets) in NYC midtown 2) Salt content of restaurant food regulated/restricted and 3) Restricting the size of soda cups - fortunately he failed on all three. Especially #1 would have been most detrimental since we were in the midst of the 2008-09 financial crisis aftereffects. These dumb bureaucrats think people can't think for themselves - the nanny state at it's best.

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Aug 31, 2018 21:41:39   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Anyone can edit a Wikipedia definition... I hope you don’t trust snopes too much either...

frankraney wrote:
Sometimes they are right...... this is one... from the way I understand the law..... the laws do vary slightly in some states..

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Aug 31, 2018 21:52:48   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Anyone can edit a Wikipedia definition... I hope you don’t trust snopes too much either...


I don't trust either one completely, or any other site for that matter, but add I said, this article is correct, that's why I listed it.. do your research if you do not believe it or me...i only listed the link after i had already answered the ops question. And yes, ANYONE can copy the text and edit it, then repost, I did not.

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Aug 31, 2018 22:20:44   #
11bravo
 
sv3noKin51E wrote:
Like the gent who took the shot of the pretty girl from his hotel room, maybe he'll be fine, and get out with his hide, and the secret chinese dark forces will be too busy to nab him.
Really? The only Chinese dark forces I worry about is my PRC traveling companion. She asked what I was doing, saw the photo, said, "oh, pretty girl huh", and gave me a slug in the arm.

Given I'm not a dissident, I haven't had any trouble with Chinese security. In fact, I find their transportation security (airport, train station, bus station) much more pleasant than the US's TSA. They're friendly, polite, smile, and at least one is a cute girl (though I don't take any photos).

sv3noKin51E wrote:
All hotel rooms in china are continually surveilled and monitored, in case they need to work a honey pot.
Talk about your fake news...

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Sep 3, 2018 11:06:22   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
artBob wrote:
I have no idea who this girl is. She was at a public football game, and I loved the feeling she showed. I never plan on using it to sell pom-pons, nor raingear, nor anything else. I have shown it in exhibits. I am comfortable with all this, because I photograph for art, not PC, and the image is not harming anyone, but rather giving us a glimpse into ourselves, a role of Art.


Hello art bob. In today’s western culture taking images of children is controversal.
Because of a hyperbolic media and up tight people using this good photo is problematic.
Just go near a playground or walk down a family homes street and you will see suspicion.
It is documentary art to me but the parent might not like it. Stock photo buyers I believe
require a release to display your work for sale.

Years ago I shot doc style photos everywhere in NY. Great shots of kids. Unusual characters etc. I believe you can’t do that anymore.

Nice shot it tells a story.

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Sep 3, 2018 14:58:57   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
I'm not accusing anybody of anything here, but imagine the following:

Adult male photographs preteen male child.
Parent: "Did you just take a picture of my son?"
Photog: "Yes, I did."
Parent: "Why?"
Photog: "Because he's pretty."

I will leave the remainder of this scenario to individual interpretation and resolution......

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