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Aug 4, 2018 11:51:05   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
chasgroh wrote:
...really, really hard to do on the road if you're taking more than 20 photos in a day. I sometimes take thousands, so *anything* cloud is out. I do happen to travel with a small laptop and an external HD (I use SSD's for everything outside of some larger remote drives at home), when I get done with a given day it's time to backup, I actually have a copy of Lightroom Classic CC on the laptop, so I save to the laptop drive and the remote in one blow with an import selection in LR. When that operation is done, I check to make sure my photos are where they are supposed to be, put fresh cards in my body(s) and go out for another day. So, I'm backed up to two hard drives and the original card from the camera. Never had a HD fail on the road (knock on wood) and, especially, never had an SSD fail *ever* ...and I've been using them since inception. Yes, anecdotal. <shrug>
...really, really hard to do on the road if you're... (show quote)


BTW, it is not out nor hard to do.
You are going to transfer your pictures to either an external drive or internal drive. The cloud backup devices monitor the drive and automatically backup selected folders or drives. This can be done "on demand" or scheduled to back up while you sleep.
Aint Technology Wonderful?

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Aug 4, 2018 12:38:10   #
C6Joe Loc: NorthWestern Nevada
 
chasgroh wrote:
Never had a HD fail on the road (knock on wood) and, especially, never had an SSD fail *ever* ...and I've been using them since inception. Yes, anecdotal. <shrug>


I use them exclusively on all my workstations, as the boot drive, and in all my laptops. I have had them fail, but, the failures have always been brand specific. And always for the same reason: I am an amateur radio operator and when I have my amplifiers on and operating with a fair amount of power, I will 'smoke' them. Western Digital's are the most RF resistant, and have never (Knocking on wood) experienced a failure in the systems running the WD SSD's. Other of the more popular and recommended SSD's have never held up: AData's come to mind, as do Samsung.

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Aug 4, 2018 12:55:01   #
kashka51
 
C6Joe wrote:
I use them exclusively on all my workstations, as the boot drive, and in all my laptops. I have had them fail, but, the failures have always been brand specific. And always for the same reason: I am an amateur radio operator and when I have my amplifiers on and operating with a fair amount of power, I will 'smoke' them. Western Digital's are the most RF resistant, and have never (Knocking on wood) experienced a failure in the systems running the WD SSD's. Other of the more popular and recommended SSD's have never held up: AData's come to mind, as do Samsung.
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Thanks!

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Aug 4, 2018 13:04:27   #
C6Joe Loc: NorthWestern Nevada
 
ggab wrote:
BTW, it is not out nor hard to do.
You are going to transfer your pictures to either an external drive or internal drive. The cloud backup devices monitor the drive and automatically backup selected folders or drives. This can be done "on demand" or scheduled to back up while you sleep.
Aint Technology Wonderful?


Coming from someone whose job is corporate and Government networks services:

Anyone using cloud services from anyone, is asking for a big shock, down the road. Never, EVER, trust any storage to anything other than your own devices, EVER!! If you want dependable storage at your location, buy a good NAS device, populate it with WD RED drives and set it up as a RAID1 device. Anything written to it, will be written to both drives in the device, giving you redundancy.

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Aug 4, 2018 13:13:21   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
ggab wrote:
BTW, it is not out nor hard to do.
You are going to transfer your pictures to either an external drive or internal drive. The cloud backup devices monitor the drive and automatically backup selected folders or drives. This can be done "on demand" or scheduled to back up while you sleep.
Aint Technology Wonderful?


Not only "hard" to do on the road, but often IMPOSSIBLE to do. I travel a lot as a wildlife photographer and internet service is spotty at BEST and usually non-existant outside of big cities. The cloud is, in reality. a very poor alternative to a battery operated portable hard drive of sufficient capacity. And they fit well in a shirt pocket.

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Aug 4, 2018 13:43:23   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Not only "hard" to do on the road, but often IMPOSSIBLE to do. I travel a lot as a wildlife photographer and internet service is spotty at BEST and usually non-existant outside of big cities. The cloud is, in reality. a very poor alternative to a battery operated portable hard drive of sufficient capacity. And they fit well in a shirt pocket.


Is your situation, traveling without cell or internet service, typical of the masses? If so, I apologize.

Since we are having this conversation, you have internet access. Eventually you use your computer for post and internet.
I would also expect, although I don't know for sure, you use your computer to transfer the files from either a flash card of one type or another/your camera to the external drive. I have not seen an external drive with wireless connection directly to a camera. It may exist, however I haven't seen it.
I know from experience that the wireless connection from my canon cameras to my wireless accessories (my tablet used for remote live view) shut down once the camera goes into sleep mode. This behaviour would make the file transfer unreliable IMHO.

Regardless, the OP asked about back up in case of computer crash. I pointed out the risks to any drive, internal or external and a practical solution.

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Aug 4, 2018 13:46:09   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
C6Joe wrote:
Coming from someone whose job is corporate and Government networks services:

Anyone using cloud services from anyone, is asking for a big shock, down the road. Never, EVER, trust any storage to anything other than your own devices, EVER!! If you want dependable storage at your location, buy a good NAS device, populate it with WD RED drives and set it up as a RAID1 device. Anything written to it, will be written to both drives in the device, giving you redundancy.


Our Government uses secure cloud services all the time. It may be government owned and behind government firewalls, however it is a cloud service all the same.

Corporations do the same.

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Aug 4, 2018 15:11:09   #
kashka51
 
C6Joe wrote:
Coming from someone whose job is corporate and Government networks services:

Anyone using cloud services from anyone, is asking for a big shock, down the road. Never, EVER, trust any storage to anything other than your own devices, EVER!! If you want dependable storage at your location, buy a good NAS device, populate it with WD RED drives and set it up as a RAID1 device. Anything written to it, will be written to both drives in the device, giving you redundancy.

THANKS! GOOD INFO!

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Aug 4, 2018 15:20:43   #
C6Joe Loc: NorthWestern Nevada
 
kashka51 wrote:
THANKS! GOOD INFO!


I should add too, I am pretty sure the devices can be set up as stand alone, one programmed with a computer, and most have a USB slot, so you can direct plug you memory card into the device via a card to USB adapter.

If this is something that catches your attention, contact the seller of the NAS drive that interests you and ask how to do what you want.

The NAS device I use is from Buffalo Systems. Western Digital makes a good one, but I didn't like the way it interfaced with my network, do went with the Buffalo NAS box.

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Aug 4, 2018 15:29:21   #
kashka51
 
C6Joe wrote:
I should add too, I am pretty sure the devices can be set up as stand alone, one programmed with a computer, and most have a USB slot, so you can direct plug you memory card into the device via a card to USB adapter.

If this is something that catches your attention, contact the seller of the NAS drive that interests you and ask how to do what you want
OK
The NAS device I use is from Buffalo Systems. Western Digital makes a good one, but I didn't like the way it interfaced with my network, do went with the Buffalo NAS box.
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Aug 4, 2018 15:59:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
baygolf wrote:
If you are only want to carry either an Ipad or Android device along with your camera take a look at this:

https://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-Wireless-Portable-Companion-Streamer/dp/B016ZWS9ZE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8

Yes, you will still need a portable hard drive, but the RavPower will power the drive and download your pictures the drive.


I have a collection of flash memory sticks I use with my RavPower WD-03 - when traveling, in particular, I cannot stress enough the importance of redundant backup. SD enabled wireless hard drive work great until they don't. If you read the reviews on Amazon and other places, there is a huge number of 4 and 5 star reviews, and a very high number of 1 star reviews - the former usually represents the new owners and their elation over getting such a neat piece of tech gear, and the latter are those that are writing their sob stories when the drives fail - and by the numbers, they clearly do.

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Aug 4, 2018 16:34:22   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
Sunnely wrote:
I think there are 2 separate questions in this statement. But since you mentioned 1 TB, I will assume portable HD.

I have a Western Digital 4 TB with no problem. I have 1 TB Seagate with no problem. I'm Prime with Amazon and got WD at Amazon. Got my Seagate at Best Buy. If you're Costco member, they have "sale" of Seagate of different TBs just about everyday.

As for SD Card, I usually order mine from Amazon. Make sure you get the class 10. No problem with Sandisk or Transcend.

I never use refurbished.

Hope this helps.
I think there are 2 separate questions in this sta... (show quote)


I have had 2 Seagates fail so I stay with Toshiba these days. Mine have taken a few falls and still work but the Seagates quit just carrying them to the studio.

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Aug 4, 2018 16:36:16   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
rcarol wrote:
The OP is looking for a self-contained hard drive with a built-in SD card reader and rechargeable battery.


Never knew one existed and how do you know if the pics got uploaded and not corrupted in the up load with out a visual confitmatio?

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Aug 4, 2018 16:39:06   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
ggab wrote:
Put them in the cloud. Hard drives will crash. It is not a question of "if they will crash" it is a question of "when they will crash".
SSD's can go bad as well.
Cloud storage goes from free to very cheap.
Amazon, I believe, offers free unlimited storage to it's prime members.
Other sites that sell their service will allow you to not only put your raw and jpeg images up, you can back up your hard drives as well.


So I have heard of data storage companies that have had crashes of their hard drives too. As well as being hacked for personal information of the clients.

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Aug 4, 2018 16:40:38   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Not only "hard" to do on the road, but often IMPOSSIBLE to do. I travel a lot as a wildlife photographer and internet service is spotty at BEST and usually non-existant outside of big cities. The cloud is, in reality. a very poor alternative to a battery operated portable hard drive of sufficient capacity. And they fit well in a shirt pocket.


Is that hard drive plugged into the camera?

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