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Aug 1, 2018 09:29:14   #
rbk35
 
Lens recommendations for an outdoor shot at PNC Park, senior pictures for a few of our high school boys from the baseball team. No action shots, headshots etc. I have a Nikon D7200, Godox 685n flash, Tamron 70-200 G2. Thinking of something like a 50mm F1.8 or similar reach zoom.

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Aug 1, 2018 09:32:59   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
For a head shot, I’d use the 70-200.
The 50 is a very short tele on your crop camera. It is going to include a lot of background. What’s in that background could be distracting.
This was shot at noon on an overcast day with a Godox AD 200 flash in a softbox (off camera) at about 180mm on a full frame (about 120mm on DX)



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Aug 1, 2018 09:45:14   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
The lens you have is fine, just step back a couple of feet if 70 isn't short enough.

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Aug 1, 2018 09:54:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rbk35 wrote:
Lens recommendations for an outdoor shot at PNC Park, senior pictures for a few of our high school boys from the baseball team. No action shots, headshots etc. I have a Nikon D7200, Godox 685n flash, Tamron 70-200 G2. Thinking of something like a 50mm F1.8 or similar reach zoom.


Most definitely use the Tammy 70-200! The wide end is a 105mm full frame equivalent field of view, about 2X normal perspective. That’s the most commonly used “look” for head-and-shoulders portraits. Go longer on subjects with protuberant facial features — to flatten them.

The 50 isn’t bad, but I would use it for waist-up compositions.

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Aug 1, 2018 09:56:07   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Yes, the 70mm side of your Tamron should do a good job if you step back just a little. Useless to say your lens is excellent for all types of portraits from what I know.

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Aug 2, 2018 06:37:50   #
CO
 
If you do get a prime lens and hand hold the camera a lot, take a look at Tamron's new SP prime lenses. They all have vibration compensation. I purchased the 45mm f/1.8 SP VC lens for my Nikons. The vibration compensation really helps when you can't use a tripod. They also have a metal lens barrel and are fully weather sealed. Its 9-blade aperture produces nice bokeh. The new lenses are the 35mm f/1.8, 45mm f/1.8, 85mm f/1.8, and 90mm f/2.8 macro.

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Aug 2, 2018 06:55:23   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
70-200 is perfect. The longer the lens the more compression of the back round. you will get a wider depth of focus at 200mm and that will allow you use the lens wide open with everything you need in focus. If you can't use it at 200 because of space or distance issues then go to the 70 end but increase your f stop to compensate for the decrease in dof (focus).

This is 200mm at 2.0 f stop...


rbk35 wrote:
Lens recommendations for an outdoor shot at PNC Park, senior pictures for a few of our high school boys from the baseball team. No action shots, headshots etc. I have a Nikon D7200, Godox 685n flash, Tamron 70-200 G2. Thinking of something like a 50mm F1.8 or similar reach zoom.


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Aug 2, 2018 07:24:26   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
catchlight.. wrote:
70-200 is perfect. The longer the lens the more compression of the back round. you will get a wider depth of focus at 200mm and that will allow you use the lens wide open with everything you need in focus. If you can't use it at 200 because of space or distance issues then go to the 70 end but increase your f stop to compensate for the decrease in dof (focus).

This is 200mm at 2.0 f stop...

very nice!

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Aug 2, 2018 08:01:45   #
ELNikkor
 
Just use the Tamron. The 50 might come in handy for a group shot.

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Aug 2, 2018 11:57:27   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Love Canon lenses... Thank you :)

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Aug 2, 2018 13:15:53   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
catchlight.. wrote:
70-200 is perfect. The longer the lens the more compression of the back round. you will get a wider depth of focus at 200mm and that will allow you use the lens wide open with everything you need in focus. If you can't use it at 200 because of space or distance issues then go to the 70 end but increase your f stop to compensate for the decrease in dof (focus).

This is 200mm at 2.0 f stop...


Nice shot but your explanation is very confusing.

Longer lenses don't compress - but the distance to your subject and the background changes for the same composition, and that will give the illusion of compression.

https://fstoppers.com/originals/lens-compression-doesnt-exist-147615
https://photographylife.com/what-is-lens-compression

A 200mm lens will give you a shallower depth of focus, which I am assuming you mean depth of field. Using any lens wide open will minimize depth of field, compared to stopping it down a little.

Did you use the $5700 Canon 200mm F2 lens for this shot? Or did you use the 70-200mm F2.8.

Using a 70mm focal length compared to 200mm will provide greater depth of field. If you are shooting to the same composition, then the depth of field will be the same - DoF is related to lens magnification, which is determined by focal length and distance to subject, along with aperture. At the same aperture, a 70mm lens moved closer to the subject to give the same composition as a 200mm at F2.8 at a greater distance will provide the same depth of field.

Great image, in spite of it all.

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Aug 2, 2018 15:38:03   #
spraguead Loc: Boston, MA
 
Here's one of a few portraits i did of folks that work at a local food bank. D7000, with Nikon 85mm f/1.4D IF. It was a nice lens for shooting with the available light. I do wish I had a flash or two for fill, would have helped with some of the other locations at the event..


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Aug 2, 2018 19:27:34   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
rbk35 wrote:
Lens recommendations for an outdoor shot at PNC Park, senior pictures for a few of our high school boys from the baseball team. No action shots, headshots etc. I have a Nikon D7200, Godox 685n flash, Tamron 70-200 G2. Thinking of something like a 50mm F1.8 or similar reach zoom.


Sigma 50-100 f1.8 ......

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Aug 2, 2018 23:14:30   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
spraguead wrote:
Here's one of a few portraits i did of folks that work at a local food bank. D7000, with Nikon 85mm f/1.4D IF. It was a nice lens for shooting with the available light. I do wish I had a flash or two for fill, would have helped with some of the other locations at the event..


Good start.
A reflector for fill would make a big difference and pretty easy to use.
Godox (Flashpoint from Adorama) has some great lighting equipment:https://www.adorama.com/fplfsmznkk1.html
(BTW: Your D7000 pop-up flash can control an off camera flash that's Nikon CLS compatible, though outside, it may be an issue at times.)
Easy to use softbox for speedlights here: https://www.adorama.com/pastr179.html

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Aug 3, 2018 07:00:47   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Not true, thanks for your comment but depth of focus is the main advantage for me at 200 or 300mm. The article is misleading I think. The further you are from the subject the wider the DOF (focus) will be and still give you the ability to have the lens wide open to get the DOF (field). Yes the 6K 200 F/2.0 is does a great job... https://www.slrlounge.com/lens-compression/


Gene51 wrote:
Nice shot but your explanation is very confusing.

Longer lenses don't compress - but the distance to your subject and the background changes for the same composition, and that will give the illusion of compression.

https://fstoppers.com/originals/lens-compression-doesnt-exist-147615
https://photographylife.com/what-is-lens-compression

A 200mm lens will give you a shallower depth of focus, which I am assuming you mean depth of field. Using any lens wide open will minimize depth of field, compared to stopping it down a little.

Did you use the $5700 Canon 200mm F2 lens for this shot? Or did you use the 70-200mm F2.8.

Using a 70mm focal length compared to 200mm will provide greater depth of field. If you are shooting to the same composition, then the depth of field will be the same - DoF is related to lens magnification, which is determined by focal length and distance to subject, along with aperture. At the same aperture, a 70mm lens moved closer to the subject to give the same composition as a 200mm at F2.8 at a greater distance will provide the same depth of field.

Great image, in spite of it all.
Nice shot but your explanation is very confusing. ... (show quote)

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