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Jul 21, 2018 17:44:14   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
chaman wrote:
LOL! I know nothing? How about a medical degree and a specialty in Adult Neurology? Faulty reasoning? Dont tell? How about your LACK of any reasoning? Know how to choose your battles next time. You have proven how defective the thought process of a long term pot user can get with every post here.


You have obviously been educated FAR above your intelligence.

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Jul 21, 2018 18:32:17   #
JeffL Loc: New Jersey
 
I would like to again thank posters who recognize the vitriol of chaman’s posts. However, there is no partisan position. It is simply does medical marijuana help with symptoms of various ailments. The answer is yes. It doesn’t matter if the sufferer is wearing a MAGA hat or dreadlocks.

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Jul 22, 2018 08:34:01   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Cambridge University Says Spelling Does Not Matter?

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteres are at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.



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Jul 22, 2018 08:47:26   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
JeffL wrote:
Chaman has proven the old adage to be true: "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." Or, IMHO, if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck then it is a quack! He also proved another point. The guy that graduates at the bottom of his medical school class is still called "Doctor."


Hold on JeffL ... Let's be fair here ... chaman probably graduated in the top 99% of his class! That alone should qualify him for SOMETHING ... right?

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Jul 22, 2018 08:51:03   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Paladin48 wrote:
Hold on JeffL ... Let's be fair here ... chaman probably graduated in the top 99% of his class! That alone should qualify him for SOMETHING ... right?


They appear to not have taught how to research

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Jul 22, 2018 08:53:30   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
chaman wrote:
Oh the village idiot....how could I, or even you know about an unknown case. I could never venture to give an opinion on an unknown case to me. Even if it's possible you are making in out. You present yourself as a blabbering idiot with every post.


You've been Bloviating your opinions on "unknown cases" for several pages. Perhaps they wouldn't be "unknown" to you if you actually applied your vast medical knowledge and did a little research of your own. We are ALL waiting on your findings, "Herr Dokter" ... or is it "Comrade Doctor"? GO!

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Jul 22, 2018 09:03:53   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Lol an those man made drugs have added health issues heart disease is one of many. Wow try to educate yourself. Lol


Big "Pharma" and the AMA are in bed together to be sure. Curing a disease (cancer for instance) doesn't make near as much money as treating it. And while we're at it let's see if shaman (true spelling of his "handle") has any thoughts about the CDC ... Center for Disease CREATION. That will light him up for sure! LOL Come to think of it look closely at his avatar ... it is an angry cartoon doctor ... How apropos is THAT?!?!?

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Jul 22, 2018 09:21:37   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Paladin48 wrote:
Big "Pharma" and the AMA are in bed together to be sure. Curing a disease (cancer for instance) doesn't make near as much money as treating it. And while we're at it let's see if shaman (true spelling of his "handle") has any thoughts about the CDC ... Center for Disease CREATION. That will light him up for sure! LOL Come to think of it look closely at his avatar ... it is an angry cartoon doctor ... How apropos is THAT?!?!?
Big "Pharma" and the AMA are in bed toge... (show quote)


I know people with COPD that have used all those inhalers that they say don't really help breathing. Then they try inhaling peppermint oil. They it opens everything instantly. So I tried it for my allergies. It helped instantly. Those inhalers has steroids in them which destroys your immune system. So which would you want to use. An pepperment will get rid a cold in one day. I looked up health benefits of peppermint. It a medicene cabinet in a bottle. Even gets rid of head aches instantly.

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Jul 22, 2018 12:15:45   #
chaman
 
Paladin48 wrote:
If anyone is acting like a 5 year old it is you, chaman. All that pouting and acting out. Your parents must be so proud of you now. KUDOS!!! Sad really ... you and your leftist counterparts have completely forgotten about CIVIL DISCOURSE. Wow ... just wow. smdh


You really think this is an argument about leftist, liberals and that whole crap? If people like you are helping the fly boy liar here, no wonder things are going down the drain. I think dirtpusher did a much more honest defense of his point of views about the issue at hand. I presented facts not here say or anecdotal over dramatized stories.....facts about the substance. I also clearly stated that I am not against marijuana but I am against LYING about its real medicinal properties to sell it. These people (if they would classify as such) just sell you the substance using used car salesman tactics to start a dependence in you and create a captivated crowd to continue their business. In the end of all this when the dust settles the true benefits of this substance would be so prostituted that will loose credibility. But these liars and hypocrites would have make a nice fortune resting on the backs of foolish, poorly informed individuals.

If garbage like this paladin POS wants to keep the argument as a political one please continue to do so. It has nothing to do with it. The facts makes this kind of people always mad, but they are there for anyone willing to truly inform themselves. Counselors like fly boy here only want you to buy the substance, be aware and be smart.

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Jul 22, 2018 12:21:21   #
chaman
 
JeffL wrote:
I would like to again thank posters who recognize the vitriol of chaman’s posts. However, there is no partisan position. It is simply does medical marijuana help with symptoms of various ailments. The answer is yes. It doesn’t matter if the sufferer is wearing a MAGA hat or dreadlocks.


Nice people backing you out on the issue here, huh? Proud yet? Every time that fanatical idiot posts to "back you up" it just drags you down.... Oh the irony. No the answer is not YES. Its much more complicated than that. Liar. It may help with some but with the vast majority of your claims it does nothing. Liar. I bet thats not what you say in your "counseling" encounters. You only point out the probable positives, over emphasize them, exaggerate, add your own little anecdotes and completely HIDE the dependence it creates....sounds about right?

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Jul 22, 2018 12:24:52   #
chaman
 
dirtpusher wrote:
They appear to not have taught how to research


LOL! Really? And who taught you? Delusion is such a wonderful thing. Nice couple of supporters for Mr Fly Boy here. Please continue to defend him.

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Jul 22, 2018 12:28:44   #
chaman
 
dirtpusher wrote:
I know people with COPD that have used all those inhalers that they say don't really help breathing. Then they try inhaling peppermint oil. They it opens everything instantly. So I tried it for my allergies. It helped instantly. Those inhalers has steroids in them which destroys your immune system. So which would you want to use. An pepperment will get rid a cold in one day. I looked up health benefits of peppermint. It a medicene cabinet in a bottle. Even gets rid of head aches instantly.


And I know hundreds who have saved their lives because of them. See what is wrong with your logic? You reach conclusions based on your own experience for allergies. Steroids do not destroy the immune system. Thats a blatant LIE. They modulate the immune response to help with the chronic inflammation of certain lung diseases. Used as directed has saved LIVES. Inform yourself for once.

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Jul 22, 2018 12:34:07   #
chaman
 
Paladin48 wrote:
You've been Bloviating your opinions on "unknown cases" for several pages. Perhaps they wouldn't be "unknown" to you if you actually applied your vast medical knowledge and did a little research of your own. We are ALL waiting on your findings, "Herr Dokter" ... or is it "Comrade Doctor"? GO!


Could you provide any useful posts? Could you post some studies that verify UNDENIABLY the benefits of marijuana that would merit classifying it as the new gold standard of treatment for any disease? Instead of playing with smilies and conspiracy theories or behaving like a little kid....could you do that? I did. I posted a few links to articles and studies did you read those before acting like a clown and further sink fly boy here even more?

I will not answer more of your useless garbage unless you bring such studies, if they exist, to this discussion. So do your homework smartass, lets see them. Im waiting.

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Jul 22, 2018 12:38:05   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
chaman wrote:
Nice people backing you out on the issue here, huh? Proud yet? Every time that fanatical idiot posts to "back you up" it just drags you down.... Oh the irony. No the answer is not YES. Its much more complicated than that. Liar. It may help with some but with the vast majority of your claims it does nothing. Liar. I bet thats not what you say in your "counseling" encounters. You only point out the probable positives, over emphasize them, exaggerate, add your own little anecdotes and completely HIDE the dependence it creates....sounds about right?
Nice people backing you out on the issue here, huh... (show quote)


Most of the health claims for cannabis have to be anecdotal because our federal government has made it extremely difficult to do scientific studies. Hopefully that will change soon and we can find out which claims can be backed up. I think it would just be better to have full adult usage legalized. Then if people felt it gave them some relief from medical conditions, they would be free to use it. As far as dependance, our legal drugs of alcohol and tobacco are physically addictive, as well as prescription opioids, causing withdrawal symptoms. Cannabis can have psychological dependance, but then so can video games, social media, junk food, etc. I was a frequent user of cannabis back in the '70s and 80's, but when it became unavailable for a time, sometimes weeks at a time, I didn't experience any negative effects.

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Jul 22, 2018 13:14:36   #
chaman
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Most of the health claims for cannabis have to be anecdotal because our federal government has made it extremely difficult to do scientific studies. Hopefully that will change soon and we can find out which claims can be backed up. I think it would just be better to have full adult usage legalized. Then if people felt it gave them some relief from medical conditions, they would be free to use it. As far as dependance, our legal drugs of alcohol and tobacco are physically addictive, as well as prescription opioids, causing withdrawal symptoms. Cannabis can have psychological dependance, but then so can video games, social media, junk food, etc. I was a frequent user of cannabis back in the '70s and 80's, but when it became unavailable for a time, sometimes weeks at a time, I didn't experience any negative effects.
Most of the health claims for cannabis have to be ... (show quote)


Important to emphasize...."so we can find out which claims are backed up". EXACTLY. That is where I have a problem with. These places who are currently selling it are doing so unethically and without any scruples. They exaggerate and hide the negative sides of the substance to sell more. The dependence aspect is a plus for them! If in my practice in order to recommend a substance Im completely RESPONSIBLE to provide the patient with the pros and cons, there is a dosage to each drug and a frequency to use it correctly. Why not applying the same to these places? Is there a warning given to avoid driving while on the influence of marijuana given to these patients? Nope. Do they warn about the dependence? Nope. Now having to read one of these lairs here propagating false info prompt me to answer back. Have you read all the improper info that for example dirtpusher have written here? You seem like a well informed person and would surely agree with me. The poor guy perhaps is just ignorant but such ignorance is perpetuated when liars like the fly boy here show themselves. Why not base actions on true knowledge and not hear say and fairy tales? They are doing a disservice to a potentially good alternative just to make a quick buck riding the wave.

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