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Jul 13, 2018 15:52:11   #
Foozer
 
Does anyone know if this software has the ability to work with layers?
Thank you.

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Jul 13, 2018 15:58:00   #
AlohaJim Loc: Retired. Hawaii >> N. Arizona.
 
We use layers in:
Photoshop . . .full version or CS6 for those that still have it.
Capture One V 11, also has layers and is a formidable program.
j

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Jul 13, 2018 16:02:41   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Foozer wrote:
Does anyone know if this software has the ability to work with layers?
Thank you.


No.

On1 Raw and Capture One do, however.

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Jul 13, 2018 16:13:06   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
No, but if you subscribe to the Adobe $10/mo photographer's plan, you can start in LR, round-trip into PS, work in layers, then return to LR. That doesn't address your original question about LR 6, but it is nevertheless a good option.

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Jul 13, 2018 16:50:56   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Foozer wrote:
Does anyone know if this software has the ability to work with layers?
Thank you.


Nope, it does not. Photoshop CS6 and CC, yes. You can subscribe and get both Lr and Ps together.

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Jul 13, 2018 17:43:25   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
You can also purchase Affinity for about $50

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Jul 13, 2018 18:45:47   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Foozer wrote:
Does anyone know if this software has the ability to work with layers?
Thank you.
PS does, LR does not, the smaller brother of PS, Photoshop Elements works with layers, much in the same way as PS does!

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Jul 13, 2018 23:36:44   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
One of the purposes of layers is to make adjustments non destructively. In other words, if you don't like your adjustments, you can delete the layer.

Lightroom accomplishes similar by using Virtual Copies and Resets. It is always not destructive.

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Jul 14, 2018 05:47:57   #
Tronjo Loc: Canada, BC
 
AlohaJim wrote:
We use layers in:
Photoshop . . .full version or CS6 for those that still have it.
Capture One V 11, also has layers and is a formidable program.
j


For Capture One!

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Jul 14, 2018 06:16:24   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
bsprague wrote:
One of the purposes of layers is to make adjustments non destructively. In other words, if you don't like your adjustments, you can delete the layer.

Lightroom accomplishes similar by using Virtual Copies and Resets. It is always not destructive.


Actually layer capability is part of a bit mapped editing program. In addition to non-destructive editing, the more important functions of layering include providing 100% control over local adjustments in terms of where they are applied using layer masks, being able to use layer effects to allow elements of a layer to "punch through" based on color and tonal range, control how two (or more) layers merge - which you can use to enhance contrast, brightness, separate an image into high and low frequency components to be able to perform frequency-specific types of edits on each component, perform compositing of two or more images, etc etc etc etc.

Lightroom does very little in the way of local adjustment, and while it does offer resets for each adjustment and for the entire image at the same time, most of the adjustments are parametric in nature, and they affect the entire image. And if you think about what non-destructive editing really encompasses, it's not just about deleting a layer that has an adjustment that you don't like, but it also provides the ability to go back and revisit a layer to "adjust the adjustment" either intensifying or diminishing the effect. This is why a raw converter is not capable of providing a finished image. Photoshop alone, with Adobe Camera Raw, has always been a complete editing solution, and Lightroom will never be a complete solution, and On1 and Capture One with their layer capability, have much improved local adjustments, but still require a pixel editor to create a truly "finished" image.

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Jul 14, 2018 10:12:53   #
Foozer
 
Thank you for the information. I don't do enough pp to warrant the monthly cost. Thus the reason to purchase the software. I will look into some of those that were mentioned.

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Jul 14, 2018 10:32:18   #
wds0410 Loc: Nunya
 
Foozer wrote:
Does anyone know if this software has the ability to work with layers?
Thank you.


Luminar supports layers.

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Jul 14, 2018 11:44:55   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Agreed... Lightroom cannot do layers.

Photoshop can.

Elements can, too... and it can be bought as a stand-alone, perpetually licensed software if you don't want to subscribe to PS CC. Elements is also a lot simpler to use than PS.

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Jul 14, 2018 13:01:09   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Actually layer capability is part of a bit mapped editing program. In addition to non-destructive editing, the more important functions of layering include providing 100% control over local adjustments in terms of where they are applied using layer masks, being able to use layer effects to allow elements of a layer to "punch through" based on color and tonal range, control how two (or more) layers merge - which you can use to enhance contrast, brightness, separate an image into high and low frequency components to be able to perform frequency-specific types of edits on each component, perform compositing of two or more images, etc etc etc etc.

Lightroom does very little in the way of local adjustment, and while it does offer resets for each adjustment and for the entire image at the same time, most of the adjustments are parametric in nature, and they affect the entire image. And if you think about what non-destructive editing really encompasses, it's not just about deleting a layer that has an adjustment that you don't like, but it also provides the ability to go back and revisit a layer to "adjust the adjustment" either intensifying or diminishing the effect. This is why a raw converter is not capable of providing a finished image. Photoshop alone, with Adobe Camera Raw, has always been a complete editing solution, and Lightroom will never be a complete solution, and On1 and Capture One with their layer capability, have much improved local adjustments, but still require a pixel editor to create a truly "finished" image.
Actually layer capability is part of a bit mapped ... (show quote)

Gene,

My answer to the OP should have been "NO"! I made the mistake of guessing the OP was new to post or inexperienced in post process and I made a guess as to why the asked the question. My mistake. One of these days I'll learn to read more and write less.

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Jul 14, 2018 14:31:21   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Foozer wrote:
Does anyone know if this software has the ability to work with layers?
Thank you.


Lightroom will NOT work in layers. Adobe Photoshop 6 WILL work in layers. In short, Photoshop is a pixel editing software that does work in layers, and Lightroom is NOT a pixel editing software and only does text editing of the image.

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