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AF-C Priority Selection, NIKON D5000
Jul 11, 2018 08:41:52   #
Oldroyvoyager
 
Steve Perry's Back Button AF book refers to an AF-C Priority Selection mode for the D5xxx series cameras. Have searched the Custom Menu(s) on my D5000 thoroughly with no success. I'm guessing that I don't need to be concerned, but I wonder if anyone can suggest whether or not Steve missed something in his excellent guide. ?? Is there another way of controlling priority selection for the AF-C mode in D5000 cameras? Or is the "Release" selection just a default?

Thanks.

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Jul 11, 2018 08:46:07   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
If the D5000 is like some other Nikons, you hold the button on the side of the AF/M switch on the front of the camera while turning the rear control dial.

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Jul 11, 2018 08:54:16   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
OOps - it turns out the D5000 is different.

"You set these by pressing either the top or rear INFO button to display the INFO screen. Once the info screen is displayed, press the rear INFO button to change the settings.

Click over to the right side of the screen, and about halfway up you'll see either AF-A, AF-S or AF-C displayed. Select it, and press OK to set them."


Copied from Ken Rockwell site.

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Jul 12, 2018 06:32:30   #
CO
 
I just downloaded the manual for the D5000. It doesn't look like it has AF-C Priority Selection and AF-S Priority Selection. My D7000 and D500 have it. I have both set to Focus. I want to make sure it has acquired proper focus before taking the picture. I'm not sure how the D5000 handles it.

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Jul 12, 2018 06:53:20   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
I don't have access to a D5000 series camera to double check this at the moment (I'm running a workshop in Cost Rica), but I'm pretty sure the D5000 doesn't allow you to set a priority mode.

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Jul 12, 2018 09:56:21   #
dbgrizzzz
 
I found that AF-A works fine with back button focus, and preserves the focus beep and the focus illumination light, which is disabled using AF-C. In AF-A, it starts as an AF-S, but if the subject moves and you keep pressing the focus button, the focus changes exactly as you would expect.

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Jul 12, 2018 12:11:26   #
Oldroyvoyager
 
Thanks to all for inputs.

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Jul 12, 2018 12:25:11   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Oldroyvoyager wrote:
Steve Perry's Back Button AF book refers to an AF-C Priority Selection mode for the D5xxx series cameras. Have searched the Custom Menu(s) on my D5000 thoroughly with no success. I'm guessing that I don't need to be concerned, but I wonder if anyone can suggest whether or not Steve missed something in his excellent guide. ?? Is there another way of controlling priority selection for the AF-C mode in D5000 cameras? Or is the "Release" selection just a default?

Thanks.


With a D5000 you cannot select a Focus or Release Priority for single (AF-S) or continuous (AF-C) focusing. If the camera is set to AF-C or is using continuous servo in AF-A - it will automatically prioritize shutter release over focus.

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Jul 12, 2018 12:28:42   #
Oldroyvoyager
 
Thanks again. That last post was really the answer i was looking for, but had assumed with some confidence.

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Jul 12, 2018 12:46:47   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
dbgrizzzz wrote:
I found that AF-A works fine with back button focus, and preserves the focus beep and the focus illumination light, which is disabled using AF-C. In AF-A, it starts as an AF-S, but if the subject moves and you keep pressing the focus button, the focus changes exactly as you would expect.


AF-A is "automation".... it really isn't a separate focus mode.

In AF-A the camera is supposed to detect whether a subject is moving or not, and then switch to and use what the camera thinks is the correct focusing mode: AF-S for stationary subjects, or AF-C continuous focus mode for moving subjects. I don't have D5000, so can't say from personal experience with it, but having experimented with similar to AF-A on other cameras in the past I found that it slowed autofocus slightly, didn't always choose the correct mode and often didn't switch modes properly if a subject started moving. The percentage of my shots that were mis-focused went up significantly while I was using the equivalent of AF-A... And, conversely, when I stopped using it, started using BBF and the equivalent of AF-C most of the time, my percentage of missed focus shots was hugely reduced. So I avoid the equivalent of AF-A on my cameras (it's essentially a "point n shoot" focus mode).

One of the primary reasons to use BBF is to be able to use AF-C as your default focus mode. Sports and action photographers in particular like to keep their cameras set to continuous focus mode to be ready to track a moving subject. But it actually can be used by anyone for any type of subject, moving or stationary.... though not without BBF because that will get you in trouble when using techniques such as "focus and recompose".

Another minor "problem" with continuous focus is there's no focus confirmation (beep or illumination). It's not "disabled"... It's simply not possible because continuous AF never stops (the way AF-S does), so there's never anything to confirm! Once you learn the camera and lens' focusing capabilities well, learn to trust them and yourself, focus confirmation really isn't needed. (P.S. while it's possible to turn off the audible "beep" of focus confirmation, I leave it on because if I hear it while shooting moving subjects I'm immediately alerted that my camera is set to the wrong focusing mode and most shots will miss focus unless I change it to the correct mode). In AF-A, focus confirmation should only work when you're photographing stationary subjects. If your subject is moving you hear the beep or see the flash of illumination, your camera has self-selected the wrong mode and you'll miss focus a lot!

But besides needing BBF and the lack of a confirmation beep and flash, AF-C (or Canon AI Servo continuous focus mode, etc.) has distinct advantages and can be used with both stationary and moving subjects.

For example, some modern zoom lenses are "varifocal" because that makes for a simpler, more compact design and lower cost. This means the lens doesn't maintain focus when you adjust the focal length. If using AF-S (or if AF-A has selected that mode for you), any time you zoom a varifocal your images will be mis-focused unless you consciously make a point to re-focus by lifting off the button and reapplying it. But if instead you are in AF-C continuous focus mode (possible thanks to using BBF), it will instantly and automatically correct any focus lost to a varifocal zoom.

While focus-related, "Focus/Release Priority" serves another purpose. If a camera allows this to be adjusted, it simply lets the user decide what's important: Whether they want the shutter to fire immediately, even if exact focus hasn't been completely achieved in every instance... Or if they're willing to sometimes accept a slight delay in shutter release in order for more (most? all?) of their shots to be precisely focused. Personally I set Focus Priority high on my cameras... missed focus shots are of little value to me. (If I were a photojournalist I might feel the opposite and set shutter release priority high.)

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Jul 12, 2018 17:09:39   #
dbgrizzzz
 
I have a D5600 and with back button focus set, I can use AF-A, and it works perfectly. I have personally tested it, it switches between a S mode initially into a C mode seamlessly if needed, by just holding the BB focus button down; it focus tracks a moving subject. I don't know about other Nikon camera models.

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