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Jul 6, 2018 15:22:43   #
tomcat
 
srt101fan wrote:
Ha! Nikon...Canon... Sony... Like I said in another post, another topic - it's like arguing about North Carolina, Alabama, or Texas barbecue!



North Carolina, in the eastern part of the state, has real BBQ. Those other 2 places have charred meat with sauce.............. We've been doing it for longer.

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Jul 6, 2018 15:28:28   #
kenievans Loc: Dallas
 
tomcat wrote:
North Carolina, in the eastern part of the state, has real BBQ. Those other 2 places have charred meat with sauce.............. We've been doing it for longer.


Although I am a native Texan I have to agree with you but don't tell anyone I said that.

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Jul 6, 2018 15:37:26   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
Streets wrote:
Two buttons to do the job of one? What am I missing here?


Have you tried it? Watch Steve Perry's video about it at https://backcountrygallery.com/. Doesn't hurt to try it or at least check out what it does.

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Jul 6, 2018 15:56:49   #
zcarxrg Loc: Corpus Christi
 
inclinerr wrote:
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens 18-55 and 70-300. My enjoyment with this camera in my retirement is just wonderful.
However I read about changing the button on the back to do the focus and use only the shutter release to take the picture.
Now I am juggling using two buttons 1) to focus and 2) snap the picture. This sometimes has caused me to miss an action shot.
Has anyone else tried out this arrangement of buttons on their camera and what are your opinions, advantages, and or short comings?

Here is a 3 photos showing what I have shot with the camera using the 55-300 lens.
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens ... (show quote)




I have been using back button focus for wildlife, birds, and birds in flight for about a year and a half. That is probably 30,000 or more shots. I very infrequently fail to maintain pressing the back button during an inflight series. To me that is the only detriment. The main generic advantages to me are that I can release the BBF to recompose and I never have to worry about the touch required for 1/2 press or full press of the shutter release. I don't shoot in cold weather much but imagine shutter half press can be difficult with gloves on.


Even more of an advantage for using back button focus for Canon shooters is that the cameras above the 80D have a programmable "asterisk" button next to the Back AF button. I have that programmed with "registered settings" for high speed shutter for birds in flight. I can quickly move my thumb just 3/8ths. of an inch to the right of the Back AF button and switch from current settings to my registered settings for an unexpected in flight series.

I believe Nikon has some firmware upgrade for a higher end camera that allows a similar function without needing to manually select different shooting settings with a wheel or menu but don't think it is as easy on their cameras.
A Nikon shooter may be able to expand on that function for Nikon or your specific camera.



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Jul 6, 2018 16:08:36   #
tomcat
 
Streets wrote:
Two buttons to do the job of one? What am I missing here?


Look at this issue from the other side. You have one button, the shutter release, trying to do the work of two buttons which is not efficient. The shutter is trying to focus and take the picture at the same time. Why not separate the two and let BBF ( or FBF ) do the focusing continuously and then let the shutter take the picture?

The first time I tried this it was very awkward but now it’s the best feature for sports and I use it all the time

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Jul 6, 2018 16:14:11   #
srt101fan
 
zcarxrg wrote:
I have been using back button focus for wildlife, birds, and birds in flight for about a year and a half. That is probably 30,000 or more shots. I very infrequently fail to maintain pressing the back button during an inflight series. To me that is the only detriment. The main generic advantages to me are that I can release the BBF to recompose and I never have to worry about the touch required for 1/2 press or full press of the shutter release. I don't shoot in cold weather much but imagine shutter half press can be difficult with gloves on.


Even more of an advantage for using back button focus for Canon shooters is that the cameras above the 80D have a programmable "asterisk" button next to the Back AF button. I have that programmed with "registered settings" for high speed shutter for birds in flight. I can quickly move my thumb just 3/8ths. of an inch to the right of the Back AF button and switch from current settings to my registered settings for an unexpected in flight series.

I believe Nikon has some firmware upgrade for a higher end camera that allows a similar function without needing to manually select different shooting settings with a wheel or menu but don't think it is as easy on their cameras.
A Nikon shooter may be able to expand on that function for Nikon or your specific camera.
I have been using back button focus for wildlife, ... (show quote)


Beautiful image!

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Jul 6, 2018 16:18:19   #
larryzplace Loc: Elk Grove Village Illinois
 
Check with Steve Perry... Look for his video on youtube... I had tried it based on other peoples recommendations and was not happy with it... Then I watched his video and
it became perfectly clear on the why and how... I doubt I will ever go back... Definitely a good teacher... He is also a member here...

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Jul 6, 2018 16:21:42   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
This may have been said before, but, before autofocus, the shutter button had nothing to do with focusing. For the most part, we all remembered to focus before hitting the shutter button. I’m a fairly recent convert to bbf but I made the switch because I finally decided that there were no drawbacks that I could discern and there was a lot to be gained. I’m slow to change (I avoided autofocus as long as I could) but I have no regrets about bbf.

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Jul 6, 2018 16:50:47   #
Angel Star Photography Loc: Tacoma, WA
 
inclinerr wrote:
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens 18-55 and 70-300. My enjoyment with this camera in my retirement is just wonderful.
However I read about changing the button on the back to do the focus and use only the shutter release to take the picture.
Now I am juggling using two buttons 1) to focus and 2) snap the picture. This sometimes has caused me to miss an action shot.
Has anyone else tried out this arrangement of buttons on their camera and what are your opinions, advantages, and or short comings?

Here is a 3 photos showing what I have shot with the camera using the 55-300 lens.
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens ... (show quote)


First, wonderful and beautiful shots!

Back-button focus does take a bit of getting accustomed to using especially if one has been quite used to the half-press focus of the shutter release. I missed a few shots myself as would forget that my autofocus was not activated by the shutter release. At one time I was on the verge of ditching it but later just decided I would go out and practice more. Now, I don't believe I will go back to the half-press shutter release activation. I have found back-button focus extremely convenient when focusing and recomposing---press once to acquire focus lock, recompose, and shoot. For this, I will typically set my autofocus to single-shot. For anything dealing with motion, I will set my autofocus to continuous or AI Servo, press and hold the back-button focus and fire off a shot or burst off a few shots. I will admit, though, that sometimes I will forget to "press and hold" or at other times take my thumb off of the button when I really shouldn't but with practice, I suspect it will become more habitual to operate the button appropriately.

C. R. Smith (Charles)
Angel Star Photography
www.angelstarphotography.com

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Jul 6, 2018 19:04:31   #
CathyAnn Loc: Apache Junction, AZ
 
I use BBF exclusively. It has a lot of advantages. Steve Perry has an outstanding video on the subject. If you haven't seen it, it's well-worth watching.

https://youtu.be/FzqQskGoURE

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Jul 6, 2018 19:11:54   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
inclinerr wrote:
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens 18-55 and 70-300. My enjoyment with this camera in my retirement is just wonderful.
However I read about changing the button on the back to do the focus and use only the shutter release to take the picture.
Now I am juggling using two buttons 1) to focus and 2) snap the picture. This sometimes has caused me to miss an action shot.
Has anyone else tried out this arrangement of buttons on their camera and what are your opinions, advantages, and or short comings?

Here is a 3 photos showing what I have shot with the camera using the 55-300 lens.
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens ... (show quote)


Welcome to the hype of bbf. There are very few situations where bbf makes sense. Mostly as you have discovered it is a nuisance.

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Jul 6, 2018 19:21:51   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
I have it in my D7200. I love it. It does take a little getting used to it. Personally i would not go back to using the shutter button to focus. I want to be photogenic past October, while there i tried out a Nikon 200-500 zoom. I could get it to focus until I realized the camera was not set up for BBF. I am so used to using i thought the camera was broken.

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Jul 6, 2018 19:52:02   #
Dan R Loc: Way Way Way Upstate NY
 
I only use BBF and keep my Nikons set to AF-C for all shots. There is no reason not too.

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Jul 6, 2018 19:54:21   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
As previously stated most useful for sports along with continuous focus mode.

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Jul 6, 2018 22:27:01   #
inclinerr Loc: South Carolina, United States
 
The aircraft is a T45 Buckeye 2 seat jet trainer used by the US Navy and Marines for training new pilots.
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=1100&tid=2000&ct=1

To Everyone:
Thank-you for posting all of your wonderful comments, web tutorials, and instructional advice.
Also thank-you for your comments about the 3 pictures I have included.
Now onward to practice, shoot, practice, shoot, practice and shoot.

Here is a dragonfly captured with BBF.


(Download)

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