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Jul 1, 2018 08:32:50   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
tbsteph wrote:
WD produces better than average drives


I've had several of their portables go south... use Seagate, now...

Dik

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Jul 1, 2018 11:12:54   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
If you have not done so, try using a different USB cord to connect the HD to the computer. Also try using another USB port on the computer.

For future reference, is always a good idea to back up important data on a 2nd hard drive.

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Jul 1, 2018 11:33:57   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Lots of great info here. I will pass on all of this to Ryan. I deeply appreciate all the input. In an age where photography is nearly all digital/electronic, it's important to see to the welfare of ones images and craft. I think we will start with investigating cords first, then USB drives, then as money permits, some of the more expensive solutions. I thank you all.

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Jul 1, 2018 11:37:04   #
Ron Dial Loc: Cuenca, Ecuador
 
Go to the Western Digital web site. WD makes a software diagnostic tool that you can run and it will diagnose your HD and may be able to repair it.

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Jul 1, 2018 11:48:29   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Ron Dial wrote:
Go to the Western Digital web site. WD makes a software diagnostic tool that you can run and it will diagnose your HD and may be able to repair it.


Thank you. I'll let Ryan know that.

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Jul 1, 2018 12:21:09   #
szoots
 
Hard drive do fail and like earlier comments intermittent problems do not get better only worse. There is a software called SpinRite that revitalizes cranky hard drive. I’ve used it successfully on a number of occasions. Once revitalized I backed it up to an array and to the cloud. I have LighRoom Program on my c: drive (SSD) and data (photos) on d: drive. That d: drive could be external or internal. With faster read/write speeds of the SSD drive my work goes quickly. Having storage on a regular drive does not slow it down and if crash occurs, I can easily recover. SSD drives hold up better but have limited write/read cycles (in the millions).

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Jul 1, 2018 13:36:19   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Longshadow wrote:
(WD Gold is better than Black. Gold is an enterprise drive.)
...an MTBF of up to 2.0 million hours. Data center quality.


Gold replaces the RE drives - enterprise class, RAID compliant. Black is similar, but not recommended for RAID because it does not provide TLER. Both have 5 yr warranties. WD also as the excellent line of HGST Ultrastar drives - also enterprise class. Their drive offerings are beginning to look like a giant bowl of Skittles.

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Jul 1, 2018 13:50:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gene51 wrote:
Gold replaces the RE drives - enterprise class, RAID compliant. Black is similar, but not recommended for RAID because it does not provide TLER. Both have 5 yr warranties. WD also as the excellent line of HGST Ultrastar drives - also enterprise class. Their drive offerings are beginning to look like a giant bowl of Skittles.


Yea, they have, what, five colors???

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Jul 1, 2018 14:07:43   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
When you consider the fact that the first commercially available 10 MB hard drive had a price tag of $ 1000.00 and today's 10 TB drives cost about $ 300.00 you will begin to understand the issue. Sooner or later, ALL drives will fail. Not IF but WHEN! I have had very good luck with both WD and Seagate drives. I always use either RAID 1 or RAID 5 and I always make on-site and off-site backups. I'm very partial to Synology NAS servers and use a variety of software to ensure backups are made and up to date. As a heavy Apple user, Time Machine works well for me. Best of luck.

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Jul 1, 2018 14:52:45   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
cjc2 wrote:
When you consider the fact that the first commercially available 10 MB hard drive had a price tag of $ 1000.00 and today's 10 TB drives cost about $ 300.00 you will begin to understand the issue. Sooner or later, ALL drives will fail. Not IF but WHEN! I have had very good luck with both WD and Seagate drives. I always use either RAID 1 or RAID 5 and I always make on-site and off-site backups. I'm very partial to Synology NAS servers and use a variety of software to ensure backups are made and up to date. As a heavy Apple user, Time Machine works well for me. Best of luck.
When you consider the fact that the first commerci... (show quote)


Thanks.

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Jul 1, 2018 14:57:49   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
There are lots of suggestions here to check this or that. I would put everything else on hold and as quickly as possible get those files on another drive somewhere and somehow. Once they are safe you can begin to trouble shoot the original problem. Glitches can escalate. Backup first. Trouble shoot next.
...Cam

Wingpilot wrote:
My grandson has been trying to download his photos from a shoot a couple days ago, but his hard drive intermittently fails, or at least seems to. He's hoping it's not his USB drive on his MacBook Pro. It's a Western Digital HDD. His problem is that his LR is connected through his hard drive because he doesn't want a bunch of stuff on the computer's hard drive. I guess my question is, given that this external HDD is only a couple years old, have there been any failure issues of note with Western Digital drives? If so, is there a better, more reliable alternative to WD?
My grandson has been trying to download his photos... (show quote)

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Jul 1, 2018 15:00:01   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
CamB wrote:
There are lots of suggestions here to check this or that. I would put everything else on hold and as quickly as possible get those files on another drive somewhere and somehow. Once they are safe you can begin to trouble shoot the original problem. Glitches can escalate. Backup first. Trouble shoot next.
...Cam


Yup, that's for sure.

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Jul 1, 2018 20:48:05   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Assume that ANY hard drive (include SSD drives and flash drives too) can fail at any moment from the time it leaves the factory. Doesn't matter what brand, model or anything. You should NEVER RELY ON A SINGLE LOCATION for anything you don't want to/can't afford to lose, whether it's the computer's main hard drive, a second internal, USB external, a flash drive, whatever.
Have you ever seen the face of a teacher whose almost-completed Masters thesis exists ONLY on the hard drive of her iBook, which is on the verge of failing entirely and won't even boot up? I have. It isn't pretty. How about years-worth of treasured photographs?

That's not to speak of folks who think they are "backing-up" by copying files onto another partition of the computer's one hard drive.

The saying in the IT field is: Never trust important data to a single "spindle". I shudder at people who keep everything they ever did on their computer or on their camera's memory card, never moving things from the computer or camera off onto other storage. The never-ending growth of hard drive and memory card sizes encourages this unsafe behavior.

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Jul 1, 2018 21:03:18   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
nadelewitz wrote:

Have you ever seen the face of a teacher whose almost-completed Masters thesis exists ONLY on the hard drive of her iBook, which is on the verge of failing entirely and won't even boot up? I have. It isn't pretty. How about years-worth of treasured photographs?


I have only spent a few months on UHH but a constant has been the warnings to everyone about making sure you have sufficient backup copies of your work that you won't be brassed off when your only copy of your work bites the dust.
In the case of the comment above about the teacher who lost her Masters thesis I can only point out that she must be reasonably intelligent to get to that point so really I have no sympathy if she lost her work. I bet she had insurance on her car. In fact it is so bad that I always assume now that if you haven't backed up your work there are only three reasons (none of which I have any sympathy for) - one is that you didn't really want the work/photographs/documents/whatever as you had made no effort to protect it, secondly you are so lazy or procrastinated major in doing anything about it, or thirdly you wander through life with your head buried so far in the sand that you ignore everything about you other than what affects you directly - like a car crash or eating. I am sorry but that is the bottom line.
Wise up - back up !

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Jul 1, 2018 21:34:09   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
chrissybabe wrote:
I have only spent a few months on UHH but a constant has been the warnings to everyone about making sure you have sufficient backup copies of your work that you won't be brassed off when your only copy of your work bites the dust.
In the case of the comment above about the teacher who lost her Masters thesis I can only point out that she must be reasonably intelligent to get to that point so really I have no sympathy if she lost her work. I bet she had insurance on her car. In fact it is so bad that I always assume now that if you haven't backed up your work there are only three reasons (none of which I have any sympathy for) - one is that you didn't really want the work/photographs/documents/whatever as you had made no effort to protect it, secondly you are so lazy or procrastinated major in doing anything about it, or thirdly you wander through life with your head buried so far in the sand that you ignore everything about you other than what affects you directly - like a car crash or eating. I am sorry but that is the bottom line.
Wise up - back up !
I have only spent a few months on UHH but a consta... (show quote)


I agree with you.

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