I Have To Ask (Page 10): Not sure about vitriol in this thread... I can't say I see any, unless you consider disagreements to be "vitriol". My apologies if you think I'm one of the...

srt101fan

safeman wrote:

Good gravy! I didn't mean to start WW 3. All I said was that if you start out with a better original, be it a RAW file or film you will end up with a better final photograph whether it is PP on Photoshop or in a darkroom with chemicals and light. Enough already. This topic does not deserve the level of vitriol it is generating.

Not sure about vitriol in this thread... I can't say I see any, unless you consider disagreements to be "vitriol".

My apologies if you think I'm one of the culprits.

srt101fan

AndyH wrote:

One of the things about UHH, both a little disturb... (show quote)

srt101fan

Longshadow wrote:

Yes, I can set my camera to use certain "slider positions" in the camera just as I would adjust them in DPP (the RAW editor) for various picture styles (landscape, etc.). I can adjust the default for each style. Those selected settings show up in DPP when I edit an image.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

repleo wrote:

Slides had to be sent for processing.

But I don't recall sending instructions on processing, even in E-4 processed films, let alone the incredible Kodachrome.

Slid films are the closest analogy to "SOOC" imho.

What do you think?

Andy

kskarma Loc: Topeka, KS

OK...we have come this far, so why don't we just settle things ONCE and FOR ALL... RAW vs. jPEG, Nikon vs. Canon, Photoshop vs LR, DSLR vs. mirrorless, Chevy vs. Ford, Packers vs. Raiders, Skins vs. Shirts, Rum vs. Scotch, Chicago vs. Philly, Ethanol vs. Unleaded, Roy Rogers vs. Gene Autry, iPhone vs. that Other, rock vs. paper vs. scissors, carpet vs. hardwood....once these are decided, we can all rest easy...….

<semi-sarcasm off>

srt101fan

AndyH wrote:

That makes your position clearer, thanks! I used t... (show quote)

".....explain how to build a watch when the OP asked for the time.".....Love it!!
You do come up with some good ones Andy!

ab7rn Loc: Portland, Oregon

ncammack wrote:

Hello all,

Being new on the forum I really don't want to stir up a hornet's nest but I have to ask; Post Processing, yes or no? If yes, what program(s) do you use. If no, I'm curious as to why not. To be honest, I do some post processing using GIMP, Dark Table, and Luminance HDR. Not always, but when I feel that a little punch up will turn a good shot into a great one.

You are on the right track. Processing is refinement. I started out in film and processing was part and parcel of it. To me, sooc is akin to Instamatic.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

srt101fan wrote:

".....explain how to build a watch when the OP asked for the time.".....Love it!!
You do come up with some good ones Andy!

Thanks. It's not original with me, though. But you have certainly added to the knowledge of many, me included. Inadvertently or not!

Andy

srt101fan

AndyH wrote:

Thanks. It's not original with me, though. But you have certainly added to the knowledge of many, me included. Inadvertently or not!

Andy

Thanks; inadvertently for sure!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

repleo wrote:

Slides had to be sent for processing.

Or... you had your own E6 darkroom.

I despised that process. We had a deep tank sink line with nitrogen burst agitation and a precision tempering system where I worked. I ran thousands of rolls of Ektachrome through it, 20 at a time. I got really good at loading Nikor reels!

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

burkphoto wrote:

Or... you had your own E6 darkroom.

I despised that process. We had a deep tank sink line with nitrogen burst agitation and a precision tempering system where I worked. I ran thousands of rolls of Ektachrome through it, 20 at a time. I got really good at loading Nikor reels!

I did some E6 processing. Seemed impossible to push without turning everything greenish.

Andy

KankRat Loc: SW Chicago Suburbs

repleo wrote:

Slides had to be sent for processing.

Hold still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SSOWORzw4

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

AndyH wrote:

I did some E6 processing. Seemed impossible to push without turning everything greenish.

Andy

Yeah, Ektachrome was twitchy stuff. I ran control strips with every batch, plotted SPC charts, adjusted replenishment rates, and added corrective chemicals if needed. Our process was usually one standard deviation better than Kodak’s control limits, but I was never able to get more than a one stop push to look acceptable. So I didn’t push unless absolutely necessary. So when digital came along, I felt like the kid in Animal House who has a half-naked cheerleader crash through his window while he’s reading Playboy — “Thank-You, God!”.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

burkphoto wrote:

So when digital came along, I felt like the kid in Animal House who has a half-naked cheerleader crash through his window while he’s reading Playboy — “Thank-You, God!”.

Perfect analogy!

The young ‘uns have no idea 💡!

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

kskarma wrote:

OK...we have come this far, so why don't we just settle things ONCE and FOR ALL... RAW vs. jPEG, Nikon vs. Canon, Photoshop vs LR, DSLR vs. mirrorless, Chevy vs. Ford, Packers vs. Raiders, Skins vs. Shirts, Rum vs. Scotch, Chicago vs. Philly, Ethanol vs. Unleaded, Roy Rogers vs. Gene Autry, iPhone vs. that Other, rock vs. paper vs. scissors, carpet vs. hardwood....once these are decided, we can all rest easy...….

<semi-sarcasm off>

So why don't we? because most don't really want to. Debate is great. Unfortunately, some take it on themselves to lecture rather than join a debate.