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Jun 22, 2018 14:11:41   #
BebuLamar
 
nadelewitz wrote:
This will mean the end of the uncontrolled "Wild West" attitudes of ebay, Amazon, and others. Sucks to be big, wealthy and unregulated, doesn't it? My state (NY) years ago started making you pay an amount when you file your tax return to cover your untaxed online purchases, unless you say you didn't make any untaxed purchases. Apparently they take your word for it so far, but who knows....? If you go to register a car you bought in another state with a lower sales tax rate or from a private party, you have to pay the difference or the full rate at registration or you don't get registered!
This will mean the end of the uncontrolled "W... (show quote)


Now that collecting tax when you buy and sell used car is something I am against. If they collect tax on used car from private party then why not collecting tax when you sell your old cameras?

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Jun 22, 2018 14:14:54   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
kenievans wrote:
I would prefer to purchase from local merchants but alot of the time they don't have the inventory I can find online. Service and price are great if they have something I want to purchase.


There are not any local merchants anymore. I live in Cincinnati and the only shop in town is DODD's Camera. they are over priced as are many camera stores even online due to a lack of true competition. The large corporate empire and attrition (old stores closing due to death or bad health of older owners) has been swallowing the little mom and pop stores for years. Since the government cannot tax an empty store and gets less from one corporation than several they go after who is left and in photography it is the online sales. There used to be here in Cincinnati a lot of labs with many workers in each as well as many camera stores with employees. Now we have Best Buy and Dodd Camera and one lab called Robin Imagining left. The used to be camera shops in the drug stores are now pretty much just a place where one can go to print out an 8x10 when the average person wants only one and their home printer they feel is not good enough to make one and they really do not want to buy a pack of 10 8x10 papers to print on.

We are left with no real service. I asked at Dodd's the other week or so ago about lenses, the clerk (like the clerk in the pawn shop I visited before him) had no idea if the lens I was looking at would work on my Nikon D7200. AI went home and looked it up at B&H then while online I made a minor purchase of a few 16 G fast memory cards for my camera. The price online was around $10 each and at DODD was around $25 each. If you have a shop near you call yourself lucky. I hope they hire better sales people at DODD but I know they do not pay the sales people much nor give them much in incentives to stick around more than a few months or a year.

Now our government just wants their share. I say my representatives are overpaid know nothing's about freedom and the real American way. These politicians only know how to change a subject and speak out of ignorance of existing law and then point fingers at the other party. We tax payers pay way too much for what is given to the poor illegal immigrant than what is given to a poor born in our country American. For a country that claims it is broke I ask, "Why do we keep paying to help countries that are socialist nations that want all Americans and their government dead?". I mean if I am broke I can't go and buy me a beer anyplace but yet our government buys the brewery and gives it away when it is broke. Sorry we do not need more taxes we need fewer politicians and their lackeys they pay to help them do nothing.

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Jun 22, 2018 14:16:42   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Now that collecting tax when you buy and sell used car is something I am against. If they collect tax on used car from private party then why not collecting tax when you sell your old cameras?


sshhh....don't let the politicians know about this...

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Jun 22, 2018 14:34:51   #
fishone0 Loc: Kingman AZ
 
I have been paying state sales tax on Amazon for a long time

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Jun 22, 2018 14:41:09   #
fishone0 Loc: Kingman AZ
 
just ordered a lens from B&H and I didn't pay sales tax I don't know how it will work out in the future but I do pay state sales tax on my Amazon orders --which is a lot easier on my purse than paying city and state tax when I purchase from my local retailer --at my local retailer I pay 9.50 % which I think is outrageous-- I prefer shopping out of town which has a cheaper sales tax

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Jun 22, 2018 14:47:19   #
avman Loc: Normal IL
 
fishone0 wrote:
just ordered a lens from B&H and I didn't pay sales tax I don't know how it will work out in the future but I do pay state sales tax on my Amazon orders --which is a lot easier on my purse than paying city and state tax when I purchase from my local retailer --at my local retailer I pay 9.50 % which I think is outrageous-- I prefer shopping out of town which has a cheaper sales tax


No Doubt....Here in Normal local sales tax is 8.75%....nothing Normal about that!

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Jun 22, 2018 14:59:19   #
rcarol
 
Pegasus wrote:
I suspect you don't know much about computers.

Here is a link to the service/software I mentioned a few times already:

http://go.taxware.com/STS-sales-tax-services.html

I'm sure there are others and like everything else in the world if there's a need for it, services will appear. Who would have thought you could accept credit cards using a smartphone and a simple little plug-in reader? In this connected world of ours, there should be or will be "an app for that" to calculate the proper sales tax and even deal with the remittance to the proper locations.
I suspect you don't know much about computers. br ... (show quote)


I had a $172 Million contract to provide desktop computers to the government so I might know just a little bit about computers. As I said, I doubt that your desktop computer would be up to the challenge of collecting and distributing sales taxes. Your solution is to offload it to a company that does have the resources. Fine. How much will this cost the user? Will the small user be able to afford this service or a service like it? Will this drive the small business person away from the internet? I don't know any of these answers. Do you? I'm not trying to be argumentative but I don't think the answer is simple or inexpensive. Only time will tell which of us is right.

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Jun 22, 2018 15:15:21   #
tenor57
 
Best view of New Jersey is in the rear view mirror :-)

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Jun 22, 2018 15:18:24   #
rcarol
 
tenor57 wrote:
Best view of New Jersey is in the rear view mirror :-)


Very good point.

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Jun 22, 2018 15:39:45   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
rcarol wrote:
I doubt that you're computer as it sits today could either collect or distribute the sales tax. A program needs to be written to do this. I doubt this program will be free. But more importantly, how do you distribute the money per zip code? I don't care how fast you think your computer is, this is going to be a nightmare. The US Government uses huge mainframe computers to keep tabs on individual income taxes. What makes you believe that collecting and distributing sales taxes can be relegated to a desktop computer or even a bank of desktop computers?
I doubt that you're computer as it sits today coul... (show quote)


Probably has a APP for that. Don't they have an app for everything?

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Jun 22, 2018 16:00:12   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
rcarol wrote:
I had a $172 Million contract to provide desktop computers to the government so I might know just a little bit about computers. As I said, I doubt that your desktop computer would be up to the challenge of collecting and distributing sales taxes. Your solution is to offload it to a company that does have the resources. Fine. How much will this cost the user? Will the small user be able to afford this service or a service like it? Will this drive the small business person away from the internet? I don't know any of these answers. Do you? I'm not trying to be argumentative but I don't think the answer is simple or inexpensive. Only time will tell which of us is right.
I had a $172 Million contract to provide desktop c... (show quote)


Yes, you are being VERY argumentative. Sales tax is a small application compared to some of the stuff that can be done on a desktop computer or a laptop. Heck, this being a photographic website, doing image post-processing on a pictures requires far more computing power than calculating sales taxes.

As I have said several times now, there are services that do that for you and I'll bet you there will be a bunch of other providers for this simple service that will cost very little on a per-transaction basis. Accepting credit cards is almost ubiquitous now at places and by people that would never have done it just a few years ago.

For example, for the last couple of years local swim teams have events where they serve food like hot dogs, hamburgers and bottled water and such and they take credit cards which they zip through a little adapter on a smartphone. It's pennies per transaction.

On a small business's website, the shopping basket and credit card is all a service provided by a third-party that charges a small percentage for each transaction. The sales tax thing will just be an additional services provided the same way, probably by the same people.

This doesn't require gigantic computers with vast amounts of storage. This is a no-brainer, just another opportunity to offer a service and suck money from the consumer to feed the forever hungry governments.

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Jun 22, 2018 16:00:51   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
tropics68 wrote:
Probably has a APP for that. Don't they have an app for everything?


Exactly. Just wait and see.

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Jun 22, 2018 16:12:36   #
rcarol
 
Pegasus wrote:
Yes, you are being VERY argumentative. Sales tax is a small application compared to some of the stuff that can be done on a desktop computer or a laptop. Heck, this being a photographic website, doing image post-processing on a pictures requires far more computing power than calculating sales taxes.

As I have said several times now, there are services that do that for you and I'll bet you there will be a bunch of other providers for this simple service that will cost very little on a per-transaction basis. Accepting credit cards is almost ubiquitous now at places and by people that would never have done it just a few years ago.

For example, for the last couple of years local swim teams have events where they serve food like hot dogs, hamburgers and bottled water and such and they take credit cards which they zip through a little adapter on a smartphone. It's pennies per transaction.

On a small business's website, the shopping basket and credit card is all a service provided by a third-party that charges a small percentage for each transaction. The sales tax thing will just be an additional services provided the same way, probably by the same people.

This doesn't require gigantic computers with vast amounts of storage. This is a no-brainer, just another opportunity to offer a service and suck money from the consumer to feed the forever hungry governments.
Yes, you are being VERY argumentative. Sales tax ... (show quote)

You said it yourself when you referred to third party providers offering up these services. Credit card transactions and sales tax stuff will be handled using someone else's mainframe, not your desktop computer.

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Jun 22, 2018 16:20:02   #
pendennis
 
mizzee wrote:
Does anyone know if the decision affects past purchases?


The ruling is effective from the day the Supreme Court made it.

In the U.S. Constitution there's this thing called Article 1, Section 10, which states in part that no state shall pass any ex post facto law...

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Jun 22, 2018 16:24:04   #
pendennis
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Perhaps the real question is will Chinese Sellers have to collect US States' Sales Taxes, probably not!


The Chinese would have to sign a treaty in order to be the collection agent for the several states' sales/use tax assessments. Besides, it's the end user who's responsible to remit the tax to the state/local taxing jurisdiction, absent withholding by the seller.

Down the road, it may be interesting if an individual refuses to pay on the basis that the Supreme Court ruled that states may collect sales taxes. State laws would have to be rewritten or modified.

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