Whats a fair price
Jun 17, 2018 13:03:44 #
photonutt1970 wrote:
somewhere around $150 I would think, but that's what I sell my 30X40 canvases
What do those canvases cost you?
Jun 17, 2018 13:08:28 #
jmccl wrote:
I looked at the water fall at the right which appears to be straight ahead of the camera. That falling water seems to be straight up and down to me, I think the image is level.
It's not the "falling" water that has to be level. It's that leading line from L to R at the TOP of the water fall that is not level. Your whole water fall composition is going downhill to the left. Recrop the image and either raise the left side or lower the right side until the top of the brook/river/whatever is level and look at the image again.
When I look at this image, my brain is leading my eyes straight out of the image and into the left side of the border---I am having difficulty getting my eyes to focus back into the center of the image.
Jun 17, 2018 13:11:42 #
Thurber Mingus wrote:
Regarding whether or not it's level... br I thin... (show quote)
thank you for restating this. This is what I've been trying to tell the OP. The image is not balanced and is not level and my eyes keep falling out of the image. I cannot keep to the center. If I could get the original I would recrop it for him, free of charge.
Jun 17, 2018 13:16:18 #
bpulv wrote:
If you look at the water just before the point where it goes over the falls there is a dark line that separates the faster moving water from the slower water above. That is where the water is level and where the photo must be level to appear correct.
Perfect!!! Thanks for showing everyone what we have been talking about. A leading line from L to R, whether it's a river, the beach, the mountains, or a pasture HAS to be close to horizontal to keep the eyes focused into the center subject of interest. Otherwise, that line takes your eyes on a path that you, the photographer, did not want the viewers to go. The first print is sooooo much better and less confusing to the brain.
Jun 17, 2018 13:31:09 #
out4life2016 wrote:
I shoot this photo a few weeks ago and decided to see what it was like blown up to a 20x30 and framed it since I liked it so much. Several coworkers have asked if I was willing to sell it and I'm trying to determine a fair price. The print was 20 dollars and the frame and matting was another 115 dollars. Any advice would be helpful. I am including a photo of the finished item and the original copy below. Thank you for all honest opinions.
As a pro usually the price is either double the cost and sometimes triple the cost. A general rule of thumb it is but it also depends on overhead for the pro's studio and other expenses. For friends I usually double the cost minimum. If you give it to them at cost they will always think of you as the cheap guy to go even if you go pro. You put much time into the one you have and that includes all the research you had finding the frame and printer. To be fair you should be paid for it no matter if it is a picture or just changing tires on a car. Your mechanic gets paid well and so should you.
Jun 17, 2018 13:33:17 #
tomcat wrote:
It's not the "falling" water that has to... (show quote)
He can fix that downhill thing in post before he sells the image to someone now that he knows. good advice to him
Jun 17, 2018 14:22:26 #
Here is my take on your dilemma, out...
For friends, and i mean "friends," I would price it at cost plus $20, that is whatever money you payed out, plus $20 for your time and effort... Just sell the print itself and let your friends decide how to mount and frame the picture.
At the same token, if you are at a show, then I would say look around at other photographers and what they are charging. I have gone and priced my work approximately $10 cheaper than some of my competitors.
If you are lucky enough to have a gallery showing, then remember that the gallery gets 40% of the sale, so, price your work accordingly. Hope this helps...
Rich...
For friends, and i mean "friends," I would price it at cost plus $20, that is whatever money you payed out, plus $20 for your time and effort... Just sell the print itself and let your friends decide how to mount and frame the picture.
At the same token, if you are at a show, then I would say look around at other photographers and what they are charging. I have gone and priced my work approximately $10 cheaper than some of my competitors.
If you are lucky enough to have a gallery showing, then remember that the gallery gets 40% of the sale, so, price your work accordingly. Hope this helps...
Rich...
Jun 17, 2018 14:46:41 #
TheShoe
Loc: Lacey, WA
ggttc wrote:
I see that.
It looks to me like the waterline is horizontal. If you make the ledge horizontal by rotating the image, then the waterline will no longer be horizontal and will look strange. Do you have software that can correct the perspective?
Jun 17, 2018 14:59:22 #
Frames, matt and glass are expensive. Not to mention mounting and labor. Not much left over for the photographer. What I have been doing is selling the print flush mounted on a standard sized board and letting the customer go to Michaels and frame it on their own.
Jun 17, 2018 15:35:59 #
TheShoe wrote:
It looks to me like the waterline is horizontal. If you make the ledge horizontal by rotating the image, then the waterline will no longer be horizontal and will look strange. Do you have software that can correct the perspective?
Go back and look at the recent images in this thread where one of the UHH'ers re-cropped the original image. You have to admit that the re-cropped image is more pleasing to the eye and the horizontal ledge keeps your eye focused on the waterfall in the center versus the original where the leading line is dropping off on the left side. Otherwise, there is nothing else that I can add. I can explain it to you, but I can't make you understand it.....sorry.
Jun 17, 2018 15:42:27 #
Mr Bill 2011
Loc: southern Indiana
Thurber Mingus wrote:
Regarding whether or not it's level... br I thin... (show quote)
there's a large rock in the upstream pool that gives a reasonable horizontal reference; according to that, water is off level.
Jun 17, 2018 15:45:29 #
marine73 wrote:
Don't forget your time. What is that worth to you.
And in figuring your costs do you amortize your equipment and include travel and other expenses to get the shot?
Jun 17, 2018 15:50:15 #
billnikon wrote:
When I do shows I take my costs (in this case it w... (show quote)
Thats pretty close to what I suggested. The fees are yours for the making and theirs for the taking.
Valid point about friends and you can always add, My show price on this piece is $XXX,XX but for you and only you I will make it, then figure your cost your time and a small profit (if that's what you want) and price it out. Big thing to remember is that if you give it to them then there is NO value seen or perceived. Price it fairly and let others share the beauty you have created. Print only and/or set ( framed) are two different things and you cant afford to keep giving these works away unless you are trying to get recognized
Jun 17, 2018 15:53:39 #
Mr Bill 2011 wrote:
there's a large rock in the upstream pool that gives a reasonable horizontal reference; according to that, water is off level.
Thanks for pointing that out also. I don't understand why some readers cannot grasp the concept of leading lines and how important they are to drawing your eyes toward the subject. A composition has to be framed and cropped to keep the viewer present in the work. Any angles, such as sloping lines that lead you out of the image are contrary to your sense of balance. And that's exactly what the left side of the OP does.
Jun 17, 2018 16:06:50 #
A really nice frame can be had for $40 to $50 and another $15 for the matting (single mat). So you really should just let your co-workers frame it themselves.
Me personally I'd just sell them the print for somewhere around $30 or $40.
Also note really nice professional prints (no frame and matting) can be had for $20 to $30 off the Internet. I just bought two really nice prints last year for $20 each. So max of $30 to $40 sounds about right.
Me personally I'd just sell them the print for somewhere around $30 or $40.
Also note really nice professional prints (no frame and matting) can be had for $20 to $30 off the Internet. I just bought two really nice prints last year for $20 each. So max of $30 to $40 sounds about right.
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