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May 24, 2018 22:52:24   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
srt101fan wrote:
If you think it's silly, why are you reading and posting?


We all want to be part of the photography movement I enjoy people but this thread is not going to help me or you. But now that we are talking please let me know if you have gotten anything from this thread and if so what?

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May 24, 2018 23:07:06   #
sxrich
 
[quote=Bill_de]How do you take a high key or low key image?

Please explain this one?

Thanks

high key-blow out highlights


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May 24, 2018 23:09:12   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
[quote=sxrich]
Bill_de wrote:
How do you take a high key or low key image?

Please explain this one?

Thanks

high key-blow out highlights


Thanks. I was wondering why Karno felt you needed to shoot manual for high and low key shots.

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May 24, 2018 23:18:32   #
sxrich
 
Bill_de wrote:
Thanks. I was wondering why Karno felt you needed to shoot manual for high and low key shots.

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its more about lighting. here is low key


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May 24, 2018 23:23:56   #
srt101fan
 
karno wrote:
We all want to be part of the photography movement I enjoy people but this thread is not going to help me or you. But now that we are talking please let me know if you have gotten anything from this thread and if so what?


This thread is a conversation, not a photography lesson. But yes, I have learned from some of the comments. They (including yours) have led me to think more about the reasons for full manual.

Maybe the underlying theme of this thread is the RELATIVE importance of "full manual". Some imply it's the only way to go. I maintain that you can be a good photographer and never use full manual. It all depends on how and what you shoot.

Peace, brother.

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May 24, 2018 23:25:03   #
latebloomer Loc: Topeka, KS
 

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May 24, 2018 23:26:42   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
srt101fan wrote:
This thread is a conversation, not a photography lesson. But yes, I have learned from some of the comments. They (including yours) have led me to think more about the reasons for full manual.

Maybe the underlying theme of this thread is the RELATIVE importance of "full manual". Some imply it's the only way to go. I maintain that you can be a good photographer and never use full manual. It all depends on how and what you shoot.

Peace, brother.


Not all artists paint alike. But it is still art.

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May 24, 2018 23:51:02   #
rmacilroy Loc: pompano beach, fl
 
there are some artise that just can see and compose an immage in an insant wish i had that gift . for them auto is the way to go. i have to look at something and figure it out. wish i could be intuitive

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May 24, 2018 23:54:01   #
Lemon Drop Kid Loc: Greeley, CO
 
I began my professional photography career carrying a speed graphic, cut film holders, a flash and a light meter. So yes, I know how to use a light meter. But know what I do now? I have a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000. I set the shutter speed that I want, or set the aperture that I want. Then I look through the eyepiece or at the monitor, and turn the rear dial (only the one dial is available) to view how dark or light I want the overall image. I can go in this manner from total black to total light. And it is accurate. What I see is what I get. Any spot changes inside an image is done in PP. Who in this day and age needs to know anything else? Worrying about one-third F stops? Ridiculous. Look at your camera image and make it look the way it looks to you, or the way you want it to look.

Of course, you can do the whole thing with RAW in PP, but I feel it is best to get your basic exposure done in the camera.

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May 25, 2018 00:13:07   #
rmacilroy Loc: pompano beach, fl
 
very nice better than nice. love it.

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May 25, 2018 00:17:10   #
rmacilroy Loc: pompano beach, fl
 
thanks your light years a head of me shit man your ding studio work. cant even grasp your knowlege.

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May 25, 2018 01:19:25   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
selmslie wrote:
I mentioned this earlier but it bears repeating.

When you are shooting in broad daylight you don't need to meter anything at all. The sun's brightness is a constant. The Sunny 16 rule covers pretty much any situation, including white egret feathers or white clouds - they will not get blown out. If you are using a modern digital camera, getting detail from the shadows is a simple matter since illumination from the open sky is only about 3 stops dimmer than direct sunlight.

There are lots of other situations where you can get away with no meter at all, at least for your first take, as explained in Exposure value.

Either approach can get you a useful SWAG for the first image. You may need only a small manual adjustment for the remaining images until the light changes.

Of course this assumes that you will be developing from the raw file to some latitude.
I mentioned this earlier but it bears repeating. b... (show quote)


I certainly wouldn't quarrel with any of that.

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May 25, 2018 01:24:19   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
selmslie wrote:
In this context, maintaining control means getting the same exposure for a subject regardless of the changing background.

For example, if you are following a runner and you have the right exposure setting, you don't want that exposure to change just because he runs past a light or dark background. Manual exposure will not change the runner's exposure. Any of the Auto settings will compensate for the change in brightness of the background.

The same thing can happen with any subject when the background changes - birds in flight, racing cars or horses, etc.
In this context, maintaining control means getting... (show quote)


Excellent example although potentially negated by aperture or shutter speed and spot metering on the runner?

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May 25, 2018 01:34:07   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
[quote=sxrich]
Bill_de wrote:
How do you take a high key or low key image?

Please explain this one?

Thanks

high key-blow out highlights


Yes indeed nice image, again if lighting is not in my favor I may overexpose or underexpose, in manual mode, but I must add this can be done with exposure compensation there are many ways to skin a cat. Honestly sometimes my always in manual thing is a hinderance.

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May 25, 2018 01:42:18   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
srt101fan wrote:
This thread is a conversation, not a photography lesson. But yes, I have learned from some of the comments. They (including yours) have led me to think more about the reasons for full manual.

Maybe the underlying theme of this thread is the RELATIVE importance of "full manual". Some imply it's the only way to go. I maintain that you can be a good photographer and never use full manual. It all depends on how and what you shoot.

Peace, brother.


Your very kind and wise, I appreciate that, I learn from you and most on this sight, and agree with what said.
Thank you
Peace

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