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May 19, 2018 11:18:43   #
Joe 88
 
SMUGMUG AND GODADDY it works for ma. #1 you need a domain name I been with godaddy for over 10 years I just got a web site a month ago and it on the first page goole.

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May 19, 2018 11:28:12   #
jayluber Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
Just a question: if selling prints are model agreements necessary?

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May 19, 2018 11:28:39   #
BudsOwl Loc: Upstate NY and New England
 
gray_ghost2 wrote:
Over the years while photographing my children/grandkids games, I've been asked to take pictures of other peoples participating child in their spoting event which I have done and given them a printed copy. But as of late I have been getting more parents from both teams asking me if I could photograph their child. I look at it and usually comply since I already have the camera set up. But my wife is now saying that their taking advantage of me since I'm not watching my grandchild play but paying attention to someone elses child.

Question I have is, since I'm already at my grandkids games taking photos of them would it be rude/mean to take photos of their child, when asked, and post them on a site that they could purchase copies of them participating in their activity. If it's not rude/mean, where/how would I find a site that would allow me to do this. Being retired, this might be some pocket change and keep the wife off my back asking why I'm spending so much time on the computer and printer. Photo paper isn't cheap, neither are the ink cartridges. I was also approached by my grandsons Wrestling and Golf teams to take photos of the team during matches. The yearbook teacher asked for some of my photos. Any suggestions?
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When my grandchildren played travel and high school soccer, I took many photos, then put them on Dropbox. If anyone wanted the photos, they were provided with a link to the shots. They could then make their own prints. That way I did not have to spend time or resources making prints. I now do the same thing for curling matches at our curling club and for group nature walks. By doing it this way I still stay an amateur and don’t have to worry about the quality or settings, etc for the shots I post for them. Sure cuts down on processing time.
Bud

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May 19, 2018 12:09:04   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
An example...I do not claim to know all her details but a good friend of mine started out by making photos at horse shows, saved the originals in folders for each class at the show, saved copies with a big watermark on them, posted the watermarked "proofs" on a website and people went there to look for their pictures and order them. She does horse portraits now on a bigger level, has them printed and ships them. For many years now, she has been so popular that she flies to horse farms all over the country to take horse portraits. Her photos are very good and NOT cheap by any means. She does very well at this and is off somewhere shooting most of the time now. Her website is temporarily down right now, but you may see some of her beautiful work on FB at https://www.facebook.com/Pj-Wamble-equine-photographer-157303357625532/

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May 19, 2018 12:35:10   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
You have been given lots of suggestions on WHERE to sell, but whether people will pay or not is something you will only know if your try it. I shot swimming meets for years and made a decent amount of money doing so. Parents would approach me and ask why other parents would pay me but not want to pay them.

The answer, I believe, is that if you are a relative of the participants, people assume you are there anyway and why not just take a few extra pictures and GIVE them away. In my case, I had no relation to anyone and everyone knew I was there as a business. Big difference.

If you decide to charge, make it worthwhile. A 5x7 should be at least $25. An 8x10 - $35. Oh yeah, your images have to be really good. You will also have to decide what is more important—watching your grandkids or shooting for money.

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May 19, 2018 12:50:47   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
gray_ghost2 wrote:
Over the years while photographing my children/grandkids games, I've been asked to take pictures of other peoples participating child in their spoting event which I have done and given them a printed copy. But as of late I have been getting more parents from both teams asking me if I could photograph their child. I look at it and usually comply since I already have the camera set up. But my wife is now saying that their taking advantage of me since I'm not watching my grandchild play but paying attention to someone elses child.

Question I have is, since I'm already at my grandkids games taking photos of them would it be rude/mean to take photos of their child, when asked, and post them on a site that they could purchase copies of them participating in their activity. If it's not rude/mean, where/how would I find a site that would allow me to do this. Being retired, this might be some pocket change and keep the wife off my back asking why I'm spending so much time on the computer and printer. Photo paper isn't cheap, neither are the ink cartridges. I was also approached by my grandsons Wrestling and Golf teams to take photos of the team during matches. The yearbook teacher asked for some of my photos. Any suggestions?
Over the years while photographing my children/gra... (show quote)


I think you'll find that no one wants to "buy" your pictures, they just want to have them. As soon as you start putting a price on them, the requests will die off, and there will be a lot of gossip to the tune of "can you believe that guy, he wants to charge ME for a photo! The nerve . . ." So, I would suggest just saying no, or making a formal arrangement with the team(s) to be the official photographer, then you'll need to get permission from the venue, insurance, model releases (just because they are kids and parents can be prickly about their kids being photographed), and you may be asked to kickback some $$ to the teams and venue. I doubt that $35 for an 8x10 is going to net you any pocket change, unless you sell 100s of them.

I sometimes second shoot for a friend who does equine hunter/jumper competitions. We'll take 3,000 shots during a busy day. He may get $500 worth of orders. And the people who participate have lots and lots of $$$$$$$.

You could use Zenfolio, or Smugmug, but don't expect to sell a lot.

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May 19, 2018 16:20:59   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Gene51 wrote:
I think you'll find that no one wants to "buy" your pictures, they just want to have them. As soon as you start putting a price on them, the requests will die off, and there will be a lot of gossip to the tune of "can you believe that guy, he wants to charge ME for a photo! The nerve . . ." So, I would suggest just saying no, or making a formal arrangement with the team(s) to be the official photographer, then you'll need to get permission from the venue, insurance, model releases (just because they are kids and parents can be prickly about their kids being photographed), and you may be asked to kickback some $$ to the teams and venue. I doubt that $35 for an 8x10 is going to net you any pocket change, unless you sell 100s of them.

I sometimes second shoot for a friend who does equine hunter/jumper competitions. We'll take 3,000 shots during a busy day. He may get $500 worth of orders. And the people who participate have lots and lots of $$$$$$$.

You could use Zenfolio, or Smugmug, but don't expect to sell a lot.
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I would agree that $35 for an 8x10 won't make LOT of money, but I would make $250-$450 per meet. One reason is that I only shot by request. I did not take random images and hope someone would buy them. Parents had to ask me to take their kid's action shots, so they knew up front they would be buying images. They knew the prices. They knew if they did not like the images there was no charge. Seldom did a family buy one image as they would get at least one from each of the four strokes.

It also was not rare to sell a 10x20 of a good butterfly image. I think I charged around $100 for that. Sample attached.

This also led to a great many high school senior portraits sessions as all the kids grew up.

No model release was ever needed since the parents asked me to take the images. I did not post them to a site, but emailed the parents with low-res watermarked proofs. While I do carry insurance only one venue asked for proof and that was a pool owned by the city - club pools never cared.

So while one will not get rich, it CAN be profitable, but as your point out, it has to be approached as business and grandpa who was giving away image suddenly charging will probably just tick of the other parents.



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May 19, 2018 18:18:16   #
gray_ghost2 Loc: Antelope, (Sac) Ca.
 
Thanks for the in depth info. I will look an see if I'm good enough to be apart of that group.

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May 19, 2018 18:19:53   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
CaptainC wrote:
I would agree that $35 for an 8x10 won't make LOT of money, but I would make $250-$450 per meet. One reason is that I only shot by request. I did not take random images and hope someone would buy them. Parents had to ask me to take their kid's action shots, so they knew up front they would be buying images. They knew the prices. They knew if they did not like the images there was no charge. Seldom did a family buy one image as they would get at least one from each of the four strokes.

It also was not rare to sell a 10x20 of a good butterfly image. I think I charged around $100 for that. Sample attached.

This also led to a great many high school senior portraits sessions as all the kids grew up.

No model release was ever needed since the parents asked me to take the images. I did not post them to a site, but emailed the parents with low-res watermarked proofs. While I do carry insurance only one venue asked for proof and that was a pool owned by the city - club pools never cared.

So while one will not get rich, it CAN be profitable, but as your point out, it has to be approached as business and grandpa who was giving away image suddenly charging will probably just tick of the other parents.
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...I'm with you, Cap. I do similar work in the pageantry community, sometimes shooting 10k shots in a day. I put 'em up on Smugmug and let the moms make their decisions. I wear a shirt with my info, have signage that I put up every event, and generally do alot of unnecessary extra work for just a bit of money, lol. I'm now interested in shooting some football over the winter and will see how that goes...

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May 19, 2018 20:33:26   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
gray_ghost2 wrote:
Over the years while photographing my children/grandkids games, I've been asked to take pictures of other peoples participating child in their spoting event which I have done and given them a printed copy. But as of late I have been getting more parents from both teams asking me if I could photograph their child. I look at it and usually comply since I already have the camera set up. But my wife is now saying that their taking advantage of me since I'm not watching my grandchild play but paying attention to someone elses child.

Question I have is, since I'm already at my grandkids games taking photos of them would it be rude/mean to take photos of their child, when asked, and post them on a site that they could purchase copies of them participating in their activity. If it's not rude/mean, where/how would I find a site that would allow me to do this. Being retired, this might be some pocket change and keep the wife off my back asking why I'm spending so much time on the computer and printer. Photo paper isn't cheap, neither are the ink cartridges. I was also approached by my grandsons Wrestling and Golf teams to take photos of the team during matches. The yearbook teacher asked for some of my photos. Any suggestions?
Over the years while photographing my children/gra... (show quote)


Shootproof at $100/yr. Or Smugmug at $180/yr. Both are very easy to set up.

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May 20, 2018 13:27:06   #
galileo2266
 
When I was shooting kids at some sporting event you had to have a release to put an image of a child as a sample of what you had to sell. Also if you were to shoot a college meet you had to get credentials from the NCAA as they own the rights to images taken at an NCAA event. I would not depend on a parent's saying "hey would you take some shots of my kid" as the equivalent of a release. 2 or 3 weeks after the transaction where they are put out that you would charge and bought 2 shots only to turn around and try to make copies for a family of 15 for Christmas card. So be aware that a parent who buys nothing and says hey I saw my kids picture on you site last week can really damage you, I believe, legally.

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