Comments requested – Upgrading from a Canon 5D to a Canon 6D Mark II or ???
May 15, 2018 20:42:47 #
alm
Loc: Springfield Mo
If you are going to shoot birds I would recommend the 7DII and a longer lens a 100-400 II along with a 1.4 TC. This combination will give you a very good birding set up.
May 15, 2018 21:27:30 #
[quote=SharpShooter]Base, first Iâve never used a 5mkl, 6mkl or ll or a 5lll but know them pretty well on paper....My first question is, have you shot BIF with your 5mkl? Have you been happy with your results? ]
SS, thanks for your thoughts...they make me think. In answer to your question about am I happy with my BIF shots, I'm attaching some of me shots...photographers who know how to evaluate pics are in the best position to judge. I know that a couple of the shots - like my albatross - were not very clear, but I was shooting from the deck of a rocking cruise ship in the Tasman sea and the albatross were more than 50 yards away. When you look at the pics, would you recommend that I go with the 5D MII or the 6D MII? If the 6D MII focuses well and shots faster, is that why it will give me 10x better pics?
Jose
SS, thanks for your thoughts...they make me think. In answer to your question about am I happy with my BIF shots, I'm attaching some of me shots...photographers who know how to evaluate pics are in the best position to judge. I know that a couple of the shots - like my albatross - were not very clear, but I was shooting from the deck of a rocking cruise ship in the Tasman sea and the albatross were more than 50 yards away. When you look at the pics, would you recommend that I go with the 5D MII or the 6D MII? If the 6D MII focuses well and shots faster, is that why it will give me 10x better pics?
Jose
May 15, 2018 21:33:56 #
robertjerl wrote:
What SS said.
I had a 6D and I got BIF with it, used the pre-AF tricks...If you want to stay with FF and not spend the $ for the IV then get the 6DII. Or you could go to APS-C and get a 7DII since they are now down in price - the sensor is getting old but it is still a very good sensor. An 80D would be an improvement for BIF over the 5D and certainly a better sensor as long as APS-C is OK with you.
I had a 6D and I got BIF with it, used the pre-AF tricks...If you want to stay with FF and not spend the $ for the IV then get the 6DII. Or you could go to APS-C and get a 7DII since they are now down in price - the sensor is getting old but it is still a very good sensor. An 80D would be an improvement for BIF over the 5D and certainly a better sensor as long as APS-C is OK with you.
Robert, thanks for your well thought out comments/observations. There's also important because you've used the predecessor models and have first-hand experiences. I don't know anything about the 7DII, so I have more research to do.
Thanks,
Joe
May 15, 2018 23:28:08 #
JPringle
Loc: Australia
Base_fiddle wrote:
Then I looked at the Canon 6D MII. Initially I wasn’t interested in it, because I don’t need GPS, WI-FI and video capture. But, some of the other features were attractive.
I like to try and capture BIF, but have a bit of an interest in other stuff as well. And I buy used.
For what its worth, I was using a 60D and upgraded to the 6D a while back. I found an upgrade path to a suitable 6DII recently, but decided to keep the 6D and get an 80D instead and saved a few dollars. I also looked at a 7DII, but kept my 1DIV instead too, the 80D also filling any gap. Lenses are not an issue.
So I use both the 80D and the 1DIV for BIF and a bit of other stuff too.
Spec wise, the 80D and the 6DII seemed similar enough to me, I liked the feel of the 80D's back a bit better, and I thought they took pretty much the same pics, even in poor light. I kept the 6D for ultra wide and lo light stuff though.
If a 5DIV came up I might jump in, but I'm just a bit worried it might force a computer and software upgrade too, and I don't mind birding with two cameras and lenses ready to go.
Good luck
Phil
May 16, 2018 00:07:33 #
Base_fiddle wrote:
Robert, thanks for your well thought out comments/observations. There's also important because you've used the predecessor models and have first-hand experiences. I don't know anything about the 7DII, so I have more research to do.
Thanks,
Joe
Thanks,
Joe
The 7DII is a SemiPro grade camera with a 20 MP APS-C crop sensor. It does 10 fps, has dual processors one for the AF (makes it very fast with a lot of different settings) and one for everything else. The AF has so many features and options there is a 50 page manual just about it. The body is titanium and the camera is weather sealed for outdoor use. It was designed to be a wildlife, bird, sports, action camera. It also has dual memory cards and a large buffer for shooting bursts. It is heavy and a bit larger than most other bodies, a result of the "built like a tank" construction. Because the AF, fast frame rate and long lenses used for birds etc use so much power I also had a battery grip on mine and carried 2 extra sets of batteries. I never went beyond the 1st backup set but why tempt Murphy to make you wish you had more batteries. I bought and used Wasabi batteries for my extras. No problems. My 6D (also had a battery grip) used the same batteries and so do my present 5DIV and 80D so no problem about which batteries I have with me.
May 16, 2018 06:34:19 #
Resqu2
Loc: SW Va
I know the 6D is older but it’s all I could spend and I take action shots of my dogs running & jumping all the time. I got one pic of geese in flight that my wife loved so much it went on the wall. I set mine up with back button focus and use just the center point focus. I did spend more on the glass than I did the body.
My point is I can’t see why the 6D2 wouldn’t work.
My point is I can’t see why the 6D2 wouldn’t work.
May 16, 2018 07:28:12 #
Try some camera comparison sites.
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
May 16, 2018 07:32:22 #
There are new 5DIIIs available as kits on B&H, but they will likely not be available much longer. Also, I use 5DIIIs, 5DIVs, and 6DIIs in my professional work and much of the criticism of the 6DII is simply off base. The 5DIV and the 6DII are drastically different cameras and were designed for quite different situations. They shouldn't be compared head to head at all.
May 16, 2018 07:37:13 #
I jumped from 7D2 to 6D2 and very much happier. I found the 7D2 hard to use well and the features of the 6D2 easier to use quickly, just never got happy with the 7D2. But I rarely shot in flight birds. I also would have liked to get the 5D4 but all things considered I think I'll stay with the 6D2 for a long time...
May 16, 2018 07:45:25 #
My thought would be to look at the 7D2 as an option or even wait on the 7D3 whenever that comes out... I also think you would be happy with the 6D2 but the 7D2 will give you the crop factor advantage with your lenses and more FPS...
Best,
Todd Ferguson
Best,
Todd Ferguson
May 16, 2018 08:39:42 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
Base_fiddle wrote:
I’ve been using my original Canon 5D EOS for a num... (show quote)
5D MIII released in 2002? I don't think so.
May 16, 2018 08:53:18 #
leftj wrote:
5D MIII released in 2002? I don't think so.
I read that as a typo and mentally updated to 2012 when reading. But, it does raise the question of support life. The original 5D was the life of the party from 2005 to 2008. Assuming support was dropped in 2017, one could assume an 8-year support life at Canon Support. When talking about bodies that cost $$$$, even when purchased used, access to repair and / or cleaning support may be a consideration to the photographer.
May 16, 2018 09:16:34 #
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May 16, 2018 10:52:24 #
Picture Taker
Loc: Michigan Thumb
I have the 5DIV and the 7DII I find them both great cameras I will generally keep the Tamron 28-300mm on the 7D and the Canon 24 - 40mm on my 5D and found the best for me. So if you get the 7DII and keep the 5D you cover the gamut. The 7 D gave me the the reach as the 28-300mm is about 45mm to 480mm. The 7DII is a great birding set up with the Tamron. It's fast and sharp.
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