Some New Tech stuff
May 5, 2018 06:45:29 #
May 5, 2018 06:46:35 #
"WHO'S GOING TO CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I have the test scheduled for May 6, 3018. I'll send you a copy of my findings if you like.
I have the test scheduled for May 6, 3018. I'll send you a copy of my findings if you like.
May 5, 2018 06:46:42 #
Ron Dial wrote:
There are two new tech items that photographers sh... (show quote)
M-Disk is hardly new. It's been around since 2009. It can be a lower capacity DVD 4.7 to 25GB, or the BluRay BDXL version which is 100GB. At $6/100GB, the price is comparable to the cost per GB of an internal 4 TB WD Black Drive. But you'd need 40 disks to equal the capacity, give or take for drive overhead after formatting. That means a lot of boxes of disks.
USB 3.1 is not USB-C. There are a few differences. USB-C may transfer the same amount of data, but the connector is reversible, the USB-C port can handle more electrical power if it supports PD. The throughput is 10Gbps or 1.25 GB/s, which is still fast.
May 5, 2018 06:47:07 #
What do you mean absolute in ten year, they’re absolute the day you buy them
May 5, 2018 06:54:57 #
billnikon wrote:
Don't you just love when a product comes out and they say, "data and has a durability of 1000 years". WHO'S GOING TO CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And like a fool at age 69, I just bought all LED replacement bulbs that claim an average life of 22.5 years.....hoping I'll be around to check. Now, that's wishful thinking! lol
May 5, 2018 07:01:46 #
billnikon
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HOHIMER wrote:
"WHO'S GOING TO CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I have the test scheduled for May 6, 3018. I'll send you a copy of my findings if you like.
I have the test scheduled for May 6, 3018. I'll send you a copy of my findings if you like.
May 5, 2018 07:11:14 #
May 5, 2018 08:58:22 #
100GB M-Disc has major advantages over most archival backups:
Any rotating media (hard drives) - hard drives fail, some sooner than others.
Flash drives - Flash drives require "refreshing" i.e. re writing, in order to prevent data loss.
The Cloud: companies fail what will they do with your data?
So if your work is irreplaceable, M-Disc is a good possibility especially if you store it off site.
Any rotating media (hard drives) - hard drives fail, some sooner than others.
Flash drives - Flash drives require "refreshing" i.e. re writing, in order to prevent data loss.
The Cloud: companies fail what will they do with your data?
So if your work is irreplaceable, M-Disc is a good possibility especially if you store it off site.
May 5, 2018 09:22:37 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
I'm always skeptical about anything that claims a ... (show quote)
True the only media that's stood the test of time so far is stone/clay tablets (Sumerian 6000+ years) - imagine if they stored all of their accounts on magnetic media? Of current technology LTO tape has longest archive life 30+ years and lowest bit error rate. Flash and spinning hard drives are subject to degradation over time so are short term 10-20+ years, but may also be subject to mechanical/electrical spikes/crashes at any time. Mechanically pressed discs are most durable and will last longest, but are subject to heat damage, not to mention how long will DVD/CD drives continue to be available (probably for a decade or so more) and this is only economical for large/ bulk quantities.
We have to think in terms of "generational" copies made on diverse media...like films of yesteryear now digitized and stored on diverse media everywhere.
Flash cards > hard drive > RAID 1/5/10 > cloud and or tape backup for archive > ??? future
Always multiple copies asap for the content you want to keep.
May 5, 2018 09:26:53 #
Peterff wrote:
Sure, but nobody uses Stonehenge for its original ... (show quote)
Technology GIVES you a rotten banana every few years, too, as manufacturers make each last gen solution obsolete.
May 5, 2018 09:50:24 #
tcthome wrote:
usb 3.1 gen1=5gps , 3.1 gen2 10gbs I believe. Could be wrong.
Not wrong, but as in so many of these standards, the theoretical maximum throughput is what is quoted, but seldom achieved.
May 5, 2018 10:01:09 #
M-Disk has been around since 2009. The disks have been costly but the price has been going down. A LG slim external recorder runs about $80. The disks come in 4.7($1.20), 25BDR($4.20) , 50BDR($7.50) & 100BDR ($14.00) GBs. (when bought in bulk). I use the 4.7 for video and the larger ones for bigger videos and RAW images. I am a historian and love the past. I find it satisfying to know these images will be available for hundreds of years in the future. I have faith in technology and believe in the far future, there always will be a way to view these disks. Some people believe the future ends at their death, I don’t.
May 5, 2018 10:14:49 #
As an aside I've recently added a Nikon D850 to my arsenal and I did a quick calculation. If I were still using the most recent popular floppy disks (1.44MB) it would require 38 of those disks to store ONE raw photo from the 850.
May 5, 2018 10:17:35 #
May 5, 2018 10:30:12 #
billnikon wrote:
Don't you just love when a product comes out and they say, "data and has a durability of 1000 years". WHO'S GOING TO CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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