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Apr 12, 2018 11:40:36   #
dhowland
 
What a lovely request!! But I would say no if I were you! And it's not what you think.

I would scout around for a photographer that takes a journalistic approach to weddings and decline to take more than a few pictures, but not because of your ability. The process of taking photos will take you away from the ceremony and other goings-on of the day, and you don't want that. It's a great honor to be nominated and very sweet that she has confidence in you -- and prefers the vibe she sees in your photos. But you will miss a lot in the process of catching (or trying to catch) everything.

quenepas wrote:
Dear Fellow Hogs,

As in the past, you’re my first “go-to” advisors on photography matters. This one relates to my daughter asking that I be her wedding photographer. I’m an average amateur plus if things go afoul, the last one you want to complain that her wedding pictures are junk is your daughter.

The wedding takes place at the Coco Cay beach (Caribbean) during a cruise with family and friends. She contracted a photographer from the cruise line. However, she still insists that I take pictures of the wedding. She thinks my shots will be better and more candid. I’m not keen about getting in photographer’s way. That’s a no-no. However, I can take some shots before, during and after the wedding. I’ve never done weddings as a “job”. I’ve taken fashion shots of a granddaughter for a contest. So, whatever advice I get from you folks will be appreciated. Advice requested encompasses, pre-event prep, equipment, use of flash, settings, cameras, poses, and whatever else you believe to be important if I want to make every shot a “keeper”. (Not likely, but good to think positive.)

I have two months to practice.

I have 3 go-to cameras: Nikon D610, Sony a7R, and a Fujifilm X100F. Lenses are somewhat scarce.

My preference is for the Nikon D610 with a Nikon 35mm-70mm 2.8D and Nikon SB-700 Speedlight (image quality, long-lasting battery, versatile lens). As a backup, I would have the Fujifilm X100F (fixed 23mm lens). And that’s it.

I’m not considering the Sony a7R. Nice camera but all I have is a 28-70mm 3.5-5.6 kit lens, and a Samyang 85mm 1.4 all-manual lens. Plus, battery life is shorter than that of a fruit fly. Have no speedlight for this camera.

Due to reduced travel gear, I haven’t considered a tripod nor light reflectors. But I will if your advice is to do so.

The wedding is a day event; before noon. So, light may be ok. Hopefully, no rain.

I’m one of those that’s intimidated by speedlights and TTL or manual adjustments, so I better get some practice in before the wedding.

Well, seems like a lot. Sorry. But would greatly appreciate your insights.

Best to all. Val
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Apr 12, 2018 11:44:35   #
Dirtmama834 Loc: Hurricane, Utah
 
This is your daughter. Do not miss this wonderful milestone in her life because you are behind the camera. Won't you be giving her away? How can you do that and capture it at the same time. I say hire a professional and let him/her do all the work while you enjoy this wonderful, hopefully once-in-a-lifetime occasion.

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Apr 12, 2018 14:02:45   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
quenepas wrote:
Dear Fellow Hogs,

As in the past, you’re my first “go-to” advisors on photography matters. This one relates to my daughter asking that I be her wedding photographer. I’m an average amateur plus if things go afoul, the last one you want to complain that her wedding pictures are junk is your daughter.

The wedding takes place at the Coco Cay beach (Caribbean) during a cruise with family and friends. She contracted a photographer from the cruise line. However, she still insists that I take pictures of the wedding. She thinks my shots will be better and more candid. I’m not keen about getting in photographer’s way. That’s a no-no. However, I can take some shots before, during and after the wedding. I’ve never done weddings as a “job”. I’ve taken fashion shots of a granddaughter for a contest. So, whatever advice I get from you folks will be appreciated. Advice requested encompasses, pre-event prep, equipment, use of flash, settings, cameras, poses, and whatever else you believe to be important if I want to make every shot a “keeper”. (Not likely, but good to think positive.)

I have two months to practice.

I have 3 go-to cameras: Nikon D610, Sony a7R, and a Fujifilm X100F. Lenses are somewhat scarce.

My preference is for the Nikon D610 with a Nikon 35mm-70mm 2.8D and Nikon SB-700 Speedlight (image quality, long-lasting battery, versatile lens). As a backup, I would have the Fujifilm X100F (fixed 23mm lens). And that’s it.

I’m not considering the Sony a7R. Nice camera but all I have is a 28-70mm 3.5-5.6 kit lens, and a Samyang 85mm 1.4 all-manual lens. Plus, battery life is shorter than that of a fruit fly. Have no speedlight for this camera.

Due to reduced travel gear, I haven’t considered a tripod nor light reflectors. But I will if your advice is to do so.

The wedding is a day event; before noon. So, light may be ok. Hopefully, no rain.

I’m one of those that’s intimidated by speedlights and TTL or manual adjustments, so I better get some practice in before the wedding.

Well, seems like a lot. Sorry. But would greatly appreciate your insights.

Best to all. Val
Dear Fellow Hogs, br br As in the past, you’re my... (show quote)


As far as shooting the wedding yourself, I would as diplomatically as possible tell your daughter NO. Shooting a wedding or any event is all consuming and you will not have the time to enjoy her wedding if you go as a photographer instead of the father of the bride. I am not a wedding photographer, but I have photographed numerous events and the fact is that as a photographer, most of the time you will find yourself away from what is important as a father. Some UHH members have suggested that you go as a "photographer's assistant." I strongly disagree. Leave you cameras in your cabin and enjoy your daughter's special day.

That being said, it is important that the photographer you hire is highly qualified. My wife and I have been on several Princess cruises and I have gotten in the habit of getting to know several of the photographers on each ship. They all seem to gain competence if they have been with the cruise line any length of time. If you are going on a Princess ship, I would insist on having the lead photographer who is in charge of their black and white art photography studio do the wedding. That person is the most qualified, creative and most experienced photographer on the ship. Remember, many, but not all, cruise ship photographers shoot more weddings in a week than most wedding photographers on land.

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Apr 12, 2018 17:26:38   #
quenepas Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
Dear All,

Thank you for all your wonderful input. Can't believe, 11 full pages! So, it was important.

Bottom line, Dr. Phil chimed in and said "What were you thinking?" Kidding! But almost.

I will not cover the wedding in a photography sense. I will take the Fuji for tourism reasons, and if inclined, shoot a shot here and there. Certainly like the B&W idea.

Again, thanks a bunch for the input.

Val

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Apr 12, 2018 21:11:58   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
My wife and I had a very informal wedding, and neither of us had any desire for the nice artsy stuff professionals produce ... then some friends of ours - fellow poor grad students - offered to take snapshots in lieu of {costly} gifts, so that is what we did. We're approaching our 39th anniversary, and we've never regretted that decision.

But once you've hired a pro, the whole narrative is different. S/he needs to work unhindered - and from the most recent wedding I attended, an army of smart phone toting guests will make that hard enough. If you're just taking candid's, any camera {preferably small} will do - the "FF only" rule will be irrelevant - so take a small one if you wish, but do try to enjoy yourself!!

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Apr 12, 2018 21:57:45   #
daeod Loc: Levittown, PA
 
Let her down gently as you remind her that you would prefer enjoying and be part of her wedding, rather than rushing a round worrying about getting all the photos and getting them good. You can still take one of your cameras and take only the photos you can around the important parts of the wedding.

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Apr 14, 2018 12:45:34   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
boberic wrote:
I would speak with the pro and ask him if you could be his assistant.


A good pro will not let you assist or get in his/her way. Let them do the job you paid for. They know a lot and should be well trained. You will do nothing to help it is your daughter's and your day enjoy it.

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Apr 14, 2018 12:46:25   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
daeod wrote:
Let her down gently as you remind her that you would prefer enjoying and be part of her wedding, rather than rushing a round worrying about getting all the photos and getting them good. You can still take one of your cameras and take only the photos you can around the important parts of the wedding.


If he has a pro he should leave his at home and enjoy the day's events

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Apr 14, 2018 12:51:38   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
rehess wrote:
My wife and I had a very informal wedding, and neither of us had any desire for the nice artsy stuff professionals produce ... then some friends of ours - fellow poor grad students - offered to take snapshots in lieu of {costly} gifts, so that is what we did. We're approaching our 39th anniversary, and we've never regretted that decision.

But once you've hired a pro, the whole narrative is different. S/he needs to work unhindered - and from the most recent wedding I attended, an army of smart phone toting guests will make that hard enough. If you're just taking candid's, any camera {preferably small} will do - the "FF only" rule will be irrelevant - so take a small one if you wish, but do try to enjoy yourself!!
My wife and I had a very informal wedding, and nei... (show quote)


Some pro contracts forbid anyone except the pro to take photos at a wedding and that includes camera phones. Those people shooting around me were a distraction and i know lowered my quality of imaginative shots as well as wasted time I did not have during the event because they got in my way. 1600 weddings and was glad digital showed up so I could retire from weddings as I did not want to spend $10 g's on a camera that was only 2 mpx knowing the next year I would need a new camera.

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Apr 14, 2018 12:51:53   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
drklrd wrote:
If he has a pro he should leave his at home and enjoy the day's events



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Apr 14, 2018 12:56:04   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
dhowland wrote:
What a lovely request!! But I would say no if I were you! And it's not what you think.

I would scout around for a photographer that takes a journalistic approach to weddings and decline to take more than a few pictures, but not because of your ability. The process of taking photos will take you away from the ceremony and other goings-on of the day, and you don't want that. It's a great honor to be nominated and very sweet that she has confidence in you -- and prefers the vibe she sees in your photos. But you will miss a lot in the process of catching (or trying to catch) everything.
What a lovely request!! But I would say no if I we... (show quote)


The best poses and group shots are never going to be journalistic. A great wedding photographer will perform both functions. Formal groups and bride and groom shots and then follow in between with the recording of candids. Posed shots take a good eye for detail and are not shot from the hip.

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Apr 16, 2018 07:27:00   #
pshuster72
 
I agree with most of the comments... don't do it. Be the Dad in the wedding, enjoy the moment. It goes by way too fast to begin with, enjoy the few moments that you will have.

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Apr 16, 2018 07:42:45   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
repleo wrote:
OOOOH!! Bad idea! Being father of the bride is a job in itself without the added responsibility of being a back up photographer. Trying to play host and lug around a bunch of gear will ruin the day for you, your daughter and the guests. Just carry a small P&S in your pocket and take simple 'behind the scenes' type shots and video clips of more offbeat or relaxed moments. Rely on your skills instead of your gear.


Agree. I can’t imagine missing out on experiences you’ll never get an opportunity to have.

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