TheShoe wrote:
I have never had a camera that had a "crop feature". All of my in camera cropping has been done either with an optical zoom or by using my feet. I always prefer a method that will give me all of the pixels that my camera will produce while including the picture I want. This leaves PP cropping to a minimum.
None of your cameras can crop an image after taking the pic? Almost all of mine can do this.
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
None of your cameras can crop an image after taking the pic? Almost all of mine can do this.
I see that some point and shoot cameras have a function to crop and save a portion of an image, yes. My DSLR does not, and I can't imagine ever using that function. However, if someone wants to quickly post images online and/or to avoid using even the most rudimentary computer imaging programs, then I suppose it might be useful.
In that case, if that is what the OP meant by "in camera cropping," then the answer would be "it depends."
Mike
toxdoc42 wrote:
I hate to state the obvious, why not get closer? I have the D3400 as well. The problem with the 70-300 kit lens that I experience, is that it is not VR and almost impossible to hand hold at the 300, which has an angle of view even higher, so really requires a tripod.
Just raise the shutter speed to above 250 or 320 and you should be able to hand hold that lens with no shake. I have the 55 to 300 Nikon and shoot sports that way on my Nikon D7200. Used to do it on a Nikon D3200 that way too I preferred the D7200 because it could shoot in the badly lit football stadiums by using a higher ISO that the D3200 could not get to.
When I am shooting wildlife I am usually hiking. I put the d3400 on auto and let it do its thing since I don't have time to do anything else. I will take out any unneeded shadow and black on my computer to bring out what is hidden. If I was stationed in a blind or on a beach where I could do the settings for the environment that would be great but not when I am on the hoof.
The answer depends on who answers. New school people will tell you to crop in post. Old school guys like me will tell you to always crop in camera - so long as you have a clear vision of what you want in the final image. That way, you have the best quality. That being said, being a photographer today in 2018 is a tremendous experience. Generally speaking, all cameras shoot great images. File size is now so large that one can afford to crop a bit in post which many people do. For people like me who've been at it for over 50 years, we prefer to bring it close to final - prefering to edit in camera.
Taking a contrarian view, it could also be said that old school is too restricted and does not allow for creative flow to be more malleable in post. Sometimes, all of us have taken "great" shots that we really didn't know could be great before we got into post, Photoshop and the like. - jm
Ramm Francis wrote:
The answer depends on who answers. New school people will tell you to crop in post. Old school guys like me will tell you to always crop in camera - so long as you have a clear vision of what you want in the final image. That way, you have the best quality. That being said, being a photographer today in 2018 is a tremendous experience. Generally speaking, all cameras shoot great images. File size is now so large that one can afford to crop a bit in post which many people do. For people like me who've been at it for over 50 years, we prefer to bring it close to final - prefering to edit in camera.
Taking a contrarian view, it could also be said that old school is too restricted and does not allow for creative flow to be more malleable in post. Sometimes, all of us have taken "great" shots that we really didn't know could be great before we got into post, Photoshop and the like. - jm
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How did you "crop in camera" in film days?
I don't think the OP was asking if it were better to "get it right in camera" or to do post processing. That seems to be the question you answered.
Mike
Love Wildlife wrote:
When I am shooting wildlife I am usually hiking. I put the d3400 on auto and let it do its thing since I don't have time to do anything else. I will take out any unneeded shadow and black on my computer to bring out what is hidden. If I was stationed in a blind or on a beach where I could do the settings for the environment that would be great but not when I am on the hoof.
With digital, why not do both, at least with stationary subjects. Using a good zoom (preferably) or your feet and/or different primes, take several shots at various in-camera crops which will give you options for further cropping during PP.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
redron57 wrote:
when you edit in raw and save it you keep all the editing open in the file so you can go back and change it
this is the master file when you save it as a jpeg it combines all the layers created in raw and is no longer able to edit it except for color and basic stuff but as a jpeg every time you edit you lose picture quality So raw is the bomb.
also most websites will only accept jpeg as a file as raw can become very large
ron
I don't understand why all this is here. The OP asked about cropping - that is all, not about other editing, and certainly not about posting to the web. The OP is saving in raw, but even if that were not the case, he could crop and save JPEG and lose nothing.
rehess wrote:
I don't understand why all this is here. The OP asked about cropping - that is all, not about other editing, and certainly not about posting to the web. The OP is saving in raw, but even if that were not the case, he could crop and save JPEG and lose nothing.
What to me seems a simple question seems to have confused many.
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
What to me seems a simple question seems to have confused many.
Right. I think the OP is probably talking about whether or not to use the "crop" function in the camera. Others are assuming that the question is about framing, or about "PP versus SOOC." Can't blame them though because it is just not clear what is being asked. I didn't even know there were cameras with a built in "crop" function and can't imagine why you would want to use it. But I guess if a person were posting images immediately to the Internet and/or was unwilling to use even the most rudimentary image editing program to do the most simple things, then an in-camera crop function might have some use.
Whatever. I wonder if we could turn this thread into a raw versus JPEG debate?
Mike
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Right. I think the OP is probably talking about whether or not to use the "crop" function in the camera. Others are assuming that the question is about framing, or about "PP versus SOOC." Can't blame them though because it is just not clear what is being asked. I didn't even know there were cameras with a built in "crop" function and can't imagine why you would want to use it. But I guess if a person were posting images immediately to the Internet and/or was unwilling to use even the most rudimentary image editing program to do the most simple things, then an in-camera crop function might have some use.
Whatever. I wonder if we could turn this thread into a raw versus JPEG debate?
Mike
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Yes, that's how I interpret the initial post. As for cropping in camera, say you need the photos at work, and at low resolution. Editing in camera begins to make sense, but if white balance is ok I'll do that on my phone, again for work only. We only need the images to be 732 lines so noise isn't an issue, even slight misfocussing can be acceptable. For pleasure I'll use raw and tinker a little. For work there just isn't time or need.
As for raw vs jpeg, all you have to do is ask which is best😜. Would also be fun to ask people why I might need any more than the Photos app to edit, and see the insults begin!
armandoluiz wrote:
Hello everybody!
I have a question and I'm sure you guys and girls can help me.
I'm shot some objects and animals by long distance and I need to crop the image to get the results that I want.
So, since I'll crop the image anyway, where should I do to loss less quality as possible? At the camera or at the computer? Or doesn't matter?
I have a Nikon D3400 with 18-55 and 70-300 (both lenses are the cheap version)
Thank you all
Armando
Get it right in the camera!! Unless you like to work on the computer. good luck
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
Get it right in the camera!! Unless you like to work on the computer. good luck
While most recent cameras have the features and ability to crop an image in camera, most older cameras do not. We're not talking about framing an image before taking it, but rather cropping an image after it was captured.
mwsilvers wrote:
While most recent cameras have the features and ability to crop an image in camera, most older cameras do not. We're not talking about framing an image before taking it, but rather cropping an image after it was captured.
Ok. Sorry, I was referring to filling the frame in the camera getting only what I wanted to.
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